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[Jamesfett]

I never get tired of looking at the Refit, but sadly all I have is my Diamond Select. Playmates for some reason never made the Refit with their line despite making darn near everything else.

I stare at my MR Falcon and never get tired of it. This will be the same.

It's a good time to be a Starship Enterprise Fan.

 

[Tosfan1]

As a consultant to Tomy I am advising study of how those strobes and lights appear in the film. In later films, the "strobes" turn into just blinkers, but I too would like to see a sharp strobing flash on these, as seen in TMP.

Here is a collage of Enterprise shots from TMP that I have collected for easy reference.

As a consultant to Tomy I am advising study of how those strobes and lights appear in the film. In later films, the "strobes" turn into just blinkers, but I too would like to see a sharp strobing flash on these, as seen in TMP.

Here is a collage of Enterprise shots from TMP that I have collected for easy reference.

Hopefully they can achieve the sharp strobe look with those as they add a lot of character to the model because of their intense brilliance and rapid bursts, in relation to the other navigation lights.

 

[MARK M3]

Hopefully they can achieve the strobe look with those as they add a lot of character to the model because of their intense brilliance and rapid bursts, compared to the other navigation lights.

 

[MARK M3]

Ooops!

 

[Jamesfett]

Is it wrong to love a thing so much?

 

[Rizop]

Is it wrong to love a thing so much?

I’m right there with you! It’s like something broke inside of me lol

 

[Jamesfett]

I’m right there with you! It’s like something broke inside of me lol

But it will heal,...with the Refit

 

[Rizop]

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In the films, the lighting that appears to emanate from spotlights on the hull in reality mostly comes from mirrors positioned outside the model. The setup for the self-lighting shots was complex and it tended to get simplified from movie to movie.

On the Tomy, it will be a mixture of prisms/light pipes to light the hull from within, and also spots projecting from the base. Some spotlights seen in the film will not be physically possible.


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truly fascinating pictures! It must be super challenging deciphering the paint of the ship since there’s so few TMP reference photos of the model that are well lit. Examples like the iridescent aztecing. The “strong back” (engineering green) too must be tough, as in the movie, it simply looks grey, but I believe one of the original painters mentioned it as a sage green.

 

[phase pistol]

It’s

truly fascinating pictures! It must be super challenging deciphering the paint of the ship since there’s so few TMP reference photos of the model that are well lit. Examples like the iridescent aztecing. The “strong back” (engineering green) too must be tough, as in the movie, it simply looks grey, but I believe one of the original painters mentioned it as a sage green.

There's a lot of extrapolation and pattern-recognition to do, but I feel we're pretty convincing. The current prototype does not represent what the final will look like. Some really good kit builds have been done over the years, I'm hopeful that the Tomy will acquit itself handsomely.

The pattern on the strongbacks can be derived from black and white photos that were taken after production (it's different than the final 1701-A condition of the ship). And yes those Floquil (non-irridescent flat colors) paints tend toward green and gray, rather than the blue and gray of the 1701-A.

 

[RevelationSpace]

It's all sounding promising, I hope they take your collective advice. I also hope that the lights aren't too bright on it, I thought they did a relatively good job of not falling for that trap with the TOS ship.

 

[RevelationSpace]

The thickness of the pylons and other structural issues are under review, but yes that started as a reinforcement strategy for our heavy diecast metal model.

That's great to hear, thank you. I hadn't noticed before that the nacelle pylons have been thickened, which is fine by me. I'd much rather have that than nacelles sagging. Is there much reinforcement in the neck? The saucer is very heavy, don't want that sagging either.

 

[RevelationSpace]

A few more pictures of the model from that sequence for those who may not have seen it before.

 

[phase pistol]

It's all sounding promising, I hope they take your collective advice. I also hope that the lights aren't too bright on it, I thought they did a relatively good job of not falling for that trap with the TOS ship.

“Scale lighting” is a known issue. Right now some lights on the prototype, such as the engines and deflector, are too bright while others like the maneuvering thrusters (yellow triangles on the saucer) are about right. The phasers and strobes are too dim.

Diffusion (even lighting with no hot spots) will also be addressed.

 

[Rizop]

There's a lot of extrapolation and pattern-recognition to do, but I feel we're pretty convincing. The current prototype does not represent what the final will look like. Some really good kit builds have been done over the years, I'm hopeful that the Tomy will acquit itself handsomely.

The pattern on the strongbacks can be derived from black and white photos that were taken after production (it's different than the final 1701-A condition of the ship). And yes those Floquil (non-irridescent flat colors) paints tend toward green and gray, rather than the blue and gray of the 1701-A.

Thanks so much for the insight. It’s really cool to hear your thoughts! The journey of the filming model was so crazy; dullcoat, numerous repaints, battle damage decals being unintentionally stuck to the sides, one whole side even being painted flat white before the final frontier VFX team received it. It’s quite a testament to the folks that worked on it that it even looks as good as it does today

 

[Astyanax]

Found these resources for 1:350 model kits for travel pods, workbees, and cargo containers:

Travel Pods and Workbees 1:350 from Lake Monster -Lake-125

www.culttvmanshop.com

Inspection / Travel Pods, Work Bees & Cargo Containers - 1:350

Accessory upgrade parts for the 1:350 Polar Lights Constitution Refit Starship. Accessory kit includes: (4) Travel / Inspection Pods (6) Work Bees (8) Cargo Containers Decal Sheet with markings and fine details. Originally produced by Don's Light and Magic, with improvements.

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Federation Models (scroll down)

These are supplemental kit replacements for the Polar Lights version, of course. Recommend you jump on them quickly, as there definitely will not be as many available as Tomy Refits being sold!

I think there is a HUGE opportunity for Tomy to make these as add-on kits, with magnets for the docking ports!

 

[MARK M3]

The reason the filming miniature didn't have all the external spotlighting is because the miniature was already built when Doug Trumbel Took over. He wanted the ship to be seen in deep space and the only way to do that was to add the spotlight effects, externally because they weren't about to tear into a very expensive miniature. Having said that however, YOU CAN replicate the effect on a scale PLASTIC model. As someone who has built WAY too many of these things, I tell you from experience of actually building said model...yes, it can be done(see attached image of my build). TOMY'S challenge is the model is DIECAST AND doesn't provide the ability to do the same. However, their plan for something this large is a home run.

 

[Jamesfett]

Found these resources for 1:350 model kits for travel pods, workbees, and cargo containers:

Travel Pods and Workbees 1:350 from Lake Monster -Lake-125

www.culttvmanshop.com

Inspection / Travel Pods, Work Bees & Cargo Containers - 1:350

Accessory upgrade parts for the 1:350 Polar Lights Constitution Refit Starship. Accessory kit includes: (4) Travel / Inspection Pods (6) Work Bees (8) Cargo Containers Decal Sheet with markings and fine details. Originally produced by Don's Light and Magic, with improvements.

lakemonsterdetails.com

Federation Models (scroll down)

These are supplemental kit replacements for the Polar Lights version, of course. Recommend you jump on them quickly, as there definitely will not be as many available as Tomy Refits being sold!

I think there is a HUGE opportunity for Tomy to make these as add-on kits, with magnets for the docking ports!

Snagged a set. Thank you sir. If Tomy ends up making them these can go in the Playmates collection.

 

[Jamesfett]

The reason the filming miniature didn't have all the external spotlighting is because the miniature was already built when Doug Trumbel Took over. He wanted the ship to be seen in deep space and the only way to do that was to add the spotlight effects, externally because they weren't about to tear into a very expensive miniature. Having said that however, YOU CAN replicate the effect on a scale PLASTIC model. As someone who has built WAY too many of these things, I tell you from experience of actually building said model...yes, it can be done(see attached image of my build). TOMY'S challenge is the model is DIECAST AND doesn't provide the ability to do the same. However, their plan for something this large is a home run.View attachment 1850722View attachment 1850723

Tomy need to hire you.

 

[JiminSTLouis]

Tomy need to hire you.

I think they have. Mark is on the design team.

 

[MARK M3]

I think they have. Mark is on the design team.

Indeed I am!