eFX A New Hope Darth Vader Helmet

[animator]

I found this thread when searching for more details about the eFX ANH Vader helmet. It is a very interesting read and I have learned a lot.

As a guy who is just a fan of the film, I have to say the eFX helmet looks great and is the helmet I have been hoping would come out since I first saw Star Wars in 1977 at 12 years old.

Back then my parents got me the Don Post plastic helmet which I still have today and is now enjoyed by my sons, but I knew it never looked right. The eFX helmet looks like Vader to me.

I've really enjoyed seeing pictures of the mould and reading about more of the details.

 

[Juansith]

The only thing Bryan is doing right now is deciding what helmet comes next and maybe he should have bumped up the edition number for Vader.

It's a great helmet and EFX is a great company.

I really hope its the ESB.
Hear that Bryan, im ready to buy :cool

 

[steveo]

I hope it's a Boushh helmet so I can nitpick at it's flaws. i kid, i kid about nitpicking but I really do hope that it's a BOUSHH helmet!!!!

 

[Zenwalker]

I high-res copy of this photo might help, as you're looking at the cheek from the side.

Anyone have a bigger version ?

HD screencaps are a good starting point. But I think looking at these things 'in motion' tells a bigger story, as it allows you to see the object more 3 dimensionally. When you look at things in one frame you only see it from one perspective, but as soon as you change the angle/ lighting slightly as the object moves, whatever you are looking at can changed significantly. If you can look at a frame and then see how the next frame compares to it, and so on and so on, you get a better idea of what you are looking at.
A prime example is how the c-scar appears in one frame and them 8-10 frames later it completely disappears.

 

[voice in the crowd]

I guess i am confusing cleaning up and unscrewing some tabs. When someone says the helmet was cleaned up i assumed more than unscrewing some mounts. I am not sure what that proves then. They could be put on and taken off at any point and mutiple times. For instance the Baker mold could have been made and then the tabs be put back on. Not saying this happened but tabs being there or not at the time of molding means what?

:lol Zombie Killer I think everyone has been in the trenches too long. Not every post about Vader helmets in this thread is a challenge to anything or trying to prove something. Some of us actually like discussing Vader without a big fight and make observations about what is out there.

Your points about the tabs are totally valid. The only thing that the tabs differences proves is that the screen helmet was moulded more than once and in two differing methods. Nothing more sinister. Lots of people in the thread seem to have an interest in this kind of stuff.

I wasn't doing anything more than trying to be informative to anyone interested in Vader casts. Oddly enough most of my posts have tried to be that way throughout the thread. I do try to take on board that some people are experienced Vader guys others may be starting out in the hobby.

Even though I do not agree with everything said in the thread it doesn't mean I do not like or respect the people I have disagreed with.

Cheers Chris

 

[Clutch]

Can't remember where I got it. If original poster wants it removed, let me know.

 

[lonerthx]

Look at the size of that thing...:lol

 

[encased]

That's what my wife said.

 

[Juansith]

Look at the size of that thing...:lol

Cut the chatter red 2 .

 

[KaanE]

Look at the size of that thing...:lol

That's what my wife said.

This can't be true :lol :lol :lol :lol

 

[Zombie Killer]

That's what my wife said.

Your right. :cool

 

[Amish Trooper]

Vader: You have a bat in the cave

 

[Zombie Killer]

VOIC, i was not trying to be ugly, i just have a lack of smoothness to my posts. I have agreed with most of what you have said.

 

[Avenger]

Nice Turc!

SN_ANH_Vader_ConferenceRoom_0.jpg photo - Alain photos at pbase.com

That one is odd. You can't see the C. And the blemish on the side of the right cheek catches the light in a really odd way making it look like it is going all the way to where the C would start.

Hmm...

Here's a thought. Look at the photos of Vader in his tie fighter. Notice how that redish light from the cockpit shines on the mask? It will illuminate any intentions as they cast shadow from the small but bright light source. If there's a point where he turns to his left, it should catch off any dimensional c scar.

 

[OldKen]

Here's a thought. Look at the photos of Vader in his tie fighter. Notice how that redish light from the cockpit shines on the mask? It will illuminate any intentions as they cast shadow from the small but bright light source. If there's a point where he turns to his left, it should catch off any dimensional c scar.

But as Zenwalker pointed out... the light does reflect off of the paint. It just gives the illusion of a scar due to the little artifacts that ARE there. Just not anything as pronounced as the "scar".

 

[Avenger]

But as Zenwalker pointed out... the light does reflect off of the paint. It just gives the illusion of a scar due to the little artifacts that ARE there. Just not anything as pronounced as the "scar".

Thing about red light is that it doesn't shine as much as white light. I mean, the color seems to do more toning to objects than illuminating. That's why they called some places the red light district, since red light hides a lot of blemishes making the prostitutes look better, but it can't hide shadows. I don't know what the technical term would be. I imagine it has to do with white being all the colors bouncing around where red isn't. So, if it's silver paint, it seems like it wouldn't shine up nearly as much in red light. However, a dimensional object will still cast a black shadow, and thus the c scar could pop out more in red.

 

[Avenger]

Nice Turc!

SN_ANH_Vader_ConferenceRoom_0.jpg photo - Alain photos at pbase.com

That one is odd. You can't see the C. And the blemish on the side of the right cheek catches the light in a really odd way making it look like it is going all the way to where the C would start.

Hmm...

I super exposed and brightened that very image.

call it what you will, but I see a dark c shape where the scar would be. And, with the other silver paint weathering showing, this image (crappy quality as it is) might lend some validity to the dimensional c scar camp, since silver paint is not going change to black when lighting is poor.

Here's the thing. EFX has already told us what to expect. I'm not sure what those that are arguing are arguing about at this point. I'm all for finding the facts cause that's fun, but despite them the EFX helmet will be what Bryan described. It may not be the most boogered up version you can find, but all of them will fall short of the original anyway. I'm stoked about it frankly! Can't wait to get my legend version! And, being my first EFX purchase, if it turns out nice I'm hoping Bryan will comission the ESB and ROTJ versions too! What a display...

 

[cboath]

Just to screw with people's heads....

If you're waiting for the BR's to help with this, just remember george's penchant for 'tweaking'. He could just have the techs wipe it out of the whole flick

Seriously, though, I can't see how this argument is winnable even WITH the screen used helmet. It seems people believe the screen used helmet was fixed up after the fact, so even finding the thing wouldn't be enough to satisfy half the people if it didn't have the scar any longer.

I just don't get it. I last looked at this thing last night at 6ish and 23 hours later I come back and i've got damn near 300 posts to read on the topic of the freaking scar. We get it, some people believe it's physical and some don't. I can't think of anything that would get anyone believing it's a physical defect to ever believe it isn't. Hence why a non-scarred screen used helmet would be a pointless find for this arguement. Finding it with the scar would convince most of the other side, i'd think, but i also imagine there'd be holdouts.

Sheesh, grab a beer or whatever your beverage of choice is, and relax. I can appreciate that people hold their beliefs on that topic that dearly, but it's not a life changing fact one way or the other.

 

[Avenger]

Just to screw with people's heads....

If you're waiting for the BR's to help with this, just remember george's penchant for 'tweaking'. He could just have the techs wipe it out of the whole flick

Now that would be funny. Maybe he read this thread and will just to put an end to it, like a parent taking away a toy from a kid annoying him with it.

 

[Zenwalker]

To me, all those highlighted artifacts on Vader's right cheek look as though someone just touched it before the black paint had a chance to dry over the gunmetal paint underneath and smudged it up with their fingers.