frightzone_4_you
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Are there any pics of Anthony Daniels next to a Don Post statue? I have heard that the DP statue is much smaller than the actual Original costume.
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frightzone_4_you
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Thanks Xeno for that pic.
vaderdarth
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Yes, thanks indeed. I never really bought into that theory because I spoke with someone who worked at DPS and was told it came off the majority of Daniel's suit, so it would have been very odd if it turned out significantly smaller, ya know??? Glad to see proof however!!!!
Dave
Dave
Trooper TK409
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Don Bies told me that they used a screen-used suit to cast the DP suit. They had to do it in one weekend in a time crunch and they removed the molds too fast causing a small amount of shrinkage. He said it was less than 10%.
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Star Wars Helmets
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Thats really interesting. Along with others I heard of theis 9/10ths story about the DP statue and its starting to sound like an urban myth.
I presume Bies thought it shrunk, but whether that was 2%, 5%, or 10% I suppose we'll only know by measuring
Cheers
Jez
I presume Bies thought it shrunk, but whether that was 2%, 5%, or 10% I suppose we'll only know by measuring
Cheers
Jez
artoo77
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Bies here...
The suit that Don Post made was originally created from molds that we made at ILM for a Planet Hollywood display. This is the mold that Chris speaks of that we need to have really fast and kicked (accelerated) the silicone to cure faster, thus introducing some accidental shrinkage. The GI 1000 silicone we used has a certain amount of shrinkage without an accelerator (not sure, but it could be up to 3%). We created our fiberglass castings from that, and then Don Post used those same molds to pull their master cast. Since they then had to mold it again, potentially more shrinkage was introduced, thus bringing up the total shrinkage amount to 6%, and maybe more due to accelerators and resin shrinkage. So claiming 10% might not be too far off, though you are correct in stating that the only way to know would be by measuring. And it certainly is possible that some parts are smaller then others, bring the whole suit average to another number. Comparing a photo of Anthony standing next to the suit is a bit unfair, as the acid test is whether or not it would fit him (I'm sure it would be tight and more uncomfortable then normal). Don Post knew his height in the suit, and since the separations between the chest and the trunks can vary, as well as the thighs to the trunks, the whole suit's height can change by a couple of inches.
As I have told this story before, the 10% number could have possibly come from me--or someone's interpretation of my numbers.
-Don Bies
The suit that Don Post made was originally created from molds that we made at ILM for a Planet Hollywood display. This is the mold that Chris speaks of that we need to have really fast and kicked (accelerated) the silicone to cure faster, thus introducing some accidental shrinkage. The GI 1000 silicone we used has a certain amount of shrinkage without an accelerator (not sure, but it could be up to 3%). We created our fiberglass castings from that, and then Don Post used those same molds to pull their master cast. Since they then had to mold it again, potentially more shrinkage was introduced, thus bringing up the total shrinkage amount to 6%, and maybe more due to accelerators and resin shrinkage. So claiming 10% might not be too far off, though you are correct in stating that the only way to know would be by measuring. And it certainly is possible that some parts are smaller then others, bring the whole suit average to another number. Comparing a photo of Anthony standing next to the suit is a bit unfair, as the acid test is whether or not it would fit him (I'm sure it would be tight and more uncomfortable then normal). Don Post knew his height in the suit, and since the separations between the chest and the trunks can vary, as well as the thighs to the trunks, the whole suit's height can change by a couple of inches.
As I have told this story before, the 10% number could have possibly come from me--or someone's interpretation of my numbers.
-Don Bies
frightzone_4_you
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Thanks Don for the info...:thumbsup
Tuskin Scout
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I have to say that, that it is a very nice image of Anthony Daniels.
TMP
Sr Member
Most interesting.
When i look at the DP it always seemed to me that the legs and arms are not wide enought for wear. In fact the overal costume.
It looks to be corectly matched in size to Anthony D. But i cant se that he can wear the suit because the proporions are so matching and dont give enought room for wear.
Also i heard for ANH the arms were in metal. But they were not metal in for ESB/ ROTJ, where they?..
What version was the DP cast of?
The ANH with reversed knee-cap opening on top
Or the ESB/ ROTJ with Knee-cap fork closure opening on bottom of cap?
Because i find them to be of different design.
Any info is much apriciated.
This is so interesting.
When i look at the DP it always seemed to me that the legs and arms are not wide enought for wear. In fact the overal costume.
It looks to be corectly matched in size to Anthony D. But i cant se that he can wear the suit because the proporions are so matching and dont give enought room for wear.
Also i heard for ANH the arms were in metal. But they were not metal in for ESB/ ROTJ, where they?..
What version was the DP cast of?
The ANH with reversed knee-cap opening on top
Or the ESB/ ROTJ with Knee-cap fork closure opening on bottom of cap?
Because i find them to be of different design.
Any info is much apriciated.
This is so interesting.
vaderdarth
Master Member
Thanks for clearing that up Don. It's so cool to have the insider giving us fanboys the scoop!!!!
Dave
Dave
Trooper TK409
Sr Member
Great having you here Don!
artoo77
Well-Known Member
All the arms for all the suits were aluminum. The fingers of the ANH suit were brass (VERY heavy), and the trunks of that suit were vacuum formed plastic. There were other minor details, like the suit was bolted together with screws for ANH, whereas they used quarter-turn Dzus connectors for ESB.
To the best of my knowledge, the suits were remade for ESB, probably using the original parts or molds as a starting point. No new suits were made for any other remaining sequels...with the exception of TC-14 from Ep1. That was a suit we made for personal appearances to fit Grant (Mythbusters) Imahara, and was used quickly for TC-14. It was being vacuum-metalized at the time and they wanted a chrome droid. Since they weren't done with the process, we told them to hold off with the top gold coat, and shipped it as chrome. It appeared briefly in the background somewhere painted red, then was eventually restored to gold and used for appearances. The Ep2 "Patchwork" suit was an ESB one (we only painted one complete suit, plus a couple additonal parts here and there), as were the two gold Ep3 suits--one of which is part of the Science Museum exhibit that started in Boston.
The Don Post statue was molded from an ESB suit, I believe...though you guys know the nuances of these things far better then I...you tell me...
--Don
To the best of my knowledge, the suits were remade for ESB, probably using the original parts or molds as a starting point. No new suits were made for any other remaining sequels...with the exception of TC-14 from Ep1. That was a suit we made for personal appearances to fit Grant (Mythbusters) Imahara, and was used quickly for TC-14. It was being vacuum-metalized at the time and they wanted a chrome droid. Since they weren't done with the process, we told them to hold off with the top gold coat, and shipped it as chrome. It appeared briefly in the background somewhere painted red, then was eventually restored to gold and used for appearances. The Ep2 "Patchwork" suit was an ESB one (we only painted one complete suit, plus a couple additonal parts here and there), as were the two gold Ep3 suits--one of which is part of the Science Museum exhibit that started in Boston.
The Don Post statue was molded from an ESB suit, I believe...though you guys know the nuances of these things far better then I...you tell me...
--Don
Most interesting.
When i look at the DP it always seemed to me that the legs and arms are not wide enought for wear. In fact the overal costume.
It looks to be corectly matched in size to Anthony D. But i cant se that he can wear the suit because the proporions are so matching and dont give enought room for wear.
Also i heard for ANH the arms were in metal. But they were not metal in for ESB/ ROTJ, where they?..
What version was the DP cast of?
The ANH with reversed knee-cap opening on top
Or the ESB/ ROTJ with Knee-cap fork closure opening on bottom of cap?
Because i find them to be of different design.
Any info is much apriciated.
This is so interesting.
Wow, so the TC-14 suit has never appeared on film as 3PO. Interesting!
Since it was made for Grant, I take it the parts would not be interchangeable with proper 3PO suits? How was it made? Were new (or old) 3PO parts cast and modified then cast again?
Are there any ANH suits or components left?
Since it was made for Grant, I take it the parts would not be interchangeable with proper 3PO suits? How was it made? Were new (or old) 3PO parts cast and modified then cast again?
Are there any ANH suits or components left?
Trooper TK409
Sr Member
You rule Don.:thumbsup
IMDB lists him as 5'9". I'm 5'10" and in this video you can see I'm unfortunately a little taller.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Og_2eR3Zm7I
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IMDB lists him as 5'9". I'm 5'10" and in this video you can see I'm unfortunately a little taller.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Og_2eR3Zm7I
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