DL-44 ESB Blaster Discussion - Greeblies POST 208
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Re: DL-44 ESB Blaster Discussion - Scope Bracket Starts at POST 118
Perhaps this has already been said, but to me it seems as though the "L" Joint on the bracket is not 90' Degrees. I mean that if you were to look at the scope from the front it would be leaning in towards the blaster by about 5' degrees or more?
Ahh .. wait a sec.. studying Boba's drawing I can tell from it he sees that too.. I think ..
Sorry
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Edit: I forgot to say I agree with the shape outlined by Boba, that looking at the shadow and the other clues, as was mentioned, it seems accurate.
Perhaps this has already been said, but to me it seems as though the "L" Joint on the bracket is not 90' Degrees. I mean that if you were to look at the scope from the front it would be leaning in towards the blaster by about 5' degrees or more?
Ahh .. wait a sec.. studying Boba's drawing I can tell from it he sees that too.. I think ..
Sorry
Oh and Happy Xmas All !
Edit: I forgot to say I agree with the shape outlined by Boba, that looking at the shadow and the other clues, as was mentioned, it seems accurate.
Boba Debt
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Re: DL-44 ESB Blaster Discussion - Scope Bracket Starts at POST 118
Actually no, I didn't think that.
I also don't understand what you mean. Are you saying that the vertical part of the scope bracket isn't parallel to the side of the mauser?
That has been discussed in the case of the Bespin Mount but s far as I know there are no front shots of the Hoth version.
Actually no, I didn't think that.
I also don't understand what you mean. Are you saying that the vertical part of the scope bracket isn't parallel to the side of the mauser?
That has been discussed in the case of the Bespin Mount but s far as I know there are no front shots of the Hoth version.
Mara Jade's Father
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Re: DL-44 ESB Blaster Discussion - Scope Bracket Starts at POST 118
I think he basing his conclusions in the fact that you can see the heads of the nuts holding the scope angled into view. I would say that since that it is not the angle of the viewing position as you would also see more of the bottom edge of the mount. Therefore the angle of the mount between the base and the top is slightly more than 90 degrees.
I think he basing his conclusions in the fact that you can see the heads of the nuts holding the scope angled into view. I would say that since that it is not the angle of the viewing position as you would also see more of the bottom edge of the mount. Therefore the angle of the mount between the base and the top is slightly more than 90 degrees.
Re: DL-44 ESB Blaster Discussion - Scope Bracket Starts at POST 118
Hi ..Just to clarify I can see that the perspective may be exaggerating the effect but I am wondering if there is more to it than that ?
Here is just a quick estimate of the angle (not reduced for the perspective) .. It might not be there it might just be lens angle (i.e. wide angle).
I may be wrong ? as the difference is quite subtle?
Hi ..Just to clarify I can see that the perspective may be exaggerating the effect but I am wondering if there is more to it than that ?
Here is just a quick estimate of the angle (not reduced for the perspective) .. It might not be there it might just be lens angle (i.e. wide angle).
I may be wrong ? as the difference is quite subtle?
Boba Debt
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Re: DL-44 ESB Blaster Discussion - Scope Bracket Starts at POST 118
I doubt the actual bracket is angled like that. I'm pretty sure they just used off the shelf angle aluminum but even if it was machined from a block of metal it would be difficult to create that angle.
I'm sure it is just an illusion created by the anlge of the photo
I doubt the actual bracket is angled like that. I'm pretty sure they just used off the shelf angle aluminum but even if it was machined from a block of metal it would be difficult to create that angle.
I'm sure it is just an illusion created by the anlge of the photo
Re: DL-44 ESB Blaster Discussion - Scope Bracket Starts at POST 118
Agreed - 100%
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Re: DL-44 ESB Blaster Discussion - Scope Bracket Starts at POST 118
Sorry to come back to the flash hider, but the more I look at the Hoth hider, the more it looks to me like a poor resin cast of the hero hider.
I think the slight differences could be caused by a bit if sand paper. The knurling is so fine that it could be mostly filled with the silver paint they used. I think the prop builder chose to draw the knurling in the subtle grooves that would have remained after painting.
I'm not building the Hoth version myself, but I just wanted to share my views with the group.
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Sorry to come back to the flash hider, but the more I look at the Hoth hider, the more it looks to me like a poor resin cast of the hero hider.
I think the slight differences could be caused by a bit if sand paper. The knurling is so fine that it could be mostly filled with the silver paint they used. I think the prop builder chose to draw the knurling in the subtle grooves that would have remained after painting.
I'm not building the Hoth version myself, but I just wanted to share my views with the group.
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Re: DL-44 ESB Blaster Discussion - Scope Bracket Starts at POST 118
Both the Luke hero and the Han hero have a radius there don't they? So is there any reason the Han stunt wouldn't also?
Both the Luke hero and the Han hero have a radius there don't they? So is there any reason the Han stunt wouldn't also?
Boba Debt
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Re: DL-44 ESB Blaster Discussion - Scope Bracket Starts at POST 118
I also think it was poorly cast version of the hero in black resin. I don't cast parts and most people prefer metal but if someone wants cast versions of these I can see if Vince wants to do it. However, I thnk the numbrs will be so low that he won't be able to pay for his materials
You would think that but the angles don't seem to end in a way that leaves any room for the radius.
I did some more work and this is what I have so far
Odiwan - Most of our measurements line up but you have the height of the vertical part of the bracket set at 1.400 which is .060 (1/16") less then what I came up with.
Where do you think the top edge of the vertical is in relation to the bottom surface of the top flat scope mount section.
I also have no way to extrapolate the inside dimensions of the cut out of the top part of the scope mount. I determine that it may have been cut with a 1/2" cutter by averaging the elliptical radius created by the angle of the photo. I will have to just make the rest of it idealized.
I also think it was poorly cast version of the hero in black resin. I don't cast parts and most people prefer metal but if someone wants cast versions of these I can see if Vince wants to do it. However, I thnk the numbrs will be so low that he won't be able to pay for his materials
You would think that but the angles don't seem to end in a way that leaves any room for the radius.
I did some more work and this is what I have so far
Odiwan - Most of our measurements line up but you have the height of the vertical part of the bracket set at 1.400 which is .060 (1/16") less then what I came up with.
Where do you think the top edge of the vertical is in relation to the bottom surface of the top flat scope mount section.
I also have no way to extrapolate the inside dimensions of the cut out of the top part of the scope mount. I determine that it may have been cut with a 1/2" cutter by averaging the elliptical radius created by the angle of the photo. I will have to just make the rest of it idealized.
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Boba Debt
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Re: DL-44 ESB Blaster Discussion - Scope Bracket Starts at POST 118
The only way to get a radius at the back of the bracket is to change the vertical dimension to 1.400 which is what you came up with but I don't think it fits the bracket correctly
I'm trying to get this to work but with the clearly defined angle and clearly defined back edge it just doesn't seem to work.
The only way to get a radius at the back of the bracket is to change the vertical dimension to 1.400 which is what you came up with but I don't think it fits the bracket correctly
I'm trying to get this to work but with the clearly defined angle and clearly defined back edge it just doesn't seem to work.
Re: DL-44 ESB Blaster Discussion - Scope Bracket Starts at POST 118
I don't think the stunt muzzle is a cast of the hero(es). I see too many differences. The raised ring at the back is narrower on the stunt, the groove next to it is wider, and the cone is shorter and wider.
I don't think the stunt muzzle is a cast of the hero(es). I see too many differences. The raised ring at the back is narrower on the stunt, the groove next to it is wider, and the cone is shorter and wider.
Boba Debt
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Re: DL-44 ESB Blaster Discussion - Scope Bracket Starts at POST 118
Kurtyboy - I have tried pulling these angles every way and each time it comes to a point
In the first frame of your picture I think you have too much angle on the back prong and in the second you have it too straight. My angle is represented by a yellow line n the top two frames
I have added what I think is the right angle and I also include a horizontal line that demonstrates what I believe to be where the vertical and horizontal parts od the bracket meet
As you can see it comes to a point.
I can decrease the angle to create a slight radius but it won't be accurate
Kurtyboy - I have tried pulling these angles every way and each time it comes to a point
In the first frame of your picture I think you have too much angle on the back prong and in the second you have it too straight. My angle is represented by a yellow line n the top two frames
I have added what I think is the right angle and I also include a horizontal line that demonstrates what I believe to be where the vertical and horizontal parts od the bracket meet
As you can see it comes to a point.
I can decrease the angle to create a slight radius but it won't be accurate
Boba Debt
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Re: DL-44 ESB Blaster Discussion - Scope Bracket Starts at POST 118
I change the angle of the lower back edge from 17 degrees to 16 degrees and I increased the radius to .500"
Full disclosure the thickness of the lines are covering up the fact that my line do not perfectly follow the image. I use super fine lines to define the object and then thcken the so they show up in jpeg format
If everyone likes this I will proceed and create the print. if not I'll continue to tweak it.
I change the angle of the lower back edge from 17 degrees to 16 degrees and I increased the radius to .500"
Full disclosure the thickness of the lines are covering up the fact that my line do not perfectly follow the image. I use super fine lines to define the object and then thcken the so they show up in jpeg format
If everyone likes this I will proceed and create the print. if not I'll continue to tweak it.
JLinNY
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Re: DL-44 ESB Blaster Discussion - Scope Bracket Starts at POST 118
Looks good to me.
Looks good to me.
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