Disney + | She-Hulk

I’ll be honest, I certainly had no plans on watching She Hulk on a regular basis as I never took her seriously in the comics. I decided I was going to hate it without watching one episode. Then one day I decided I should at least watch the first episode just in case there might be something there for me. Now, what can I say? I’m a fan. it’s incredibly fun and when Jen breaks the 4th wall I usually laugh out loud. Look, nobody is trying to write Citizen Kane here. Just a fun, silly side of Marvel. Don’t read more into it than what it is.
Exactly. Not everything in the MCU has to be some deep impactful influence on the MCU and have the hero/heroine fighting some big bad. But, having said that, I do think that the show is going somewhere, but since they seem to have more than just a mere 6 episodes to work with, they're just taking a little more time with it than with other shows in the past.
 
I’ll be honest, I certainly had no plans on watching She Hulk on a regular basis as I never took her seriously in the comics. I decided I was going to hate it without watching one episode. Then one day I decided I should at least watch the first episode just in case there might be something there for me. Now, what can I say? I’m a fan. it’s incredibly fun and when Jen breaks the 4th wall I usually laugh out loud. Look, nobody is trying to write Citizen Kane here. Just a fun, silly side of Marvel. Don’t read more into it than what it is.
That's right; just a McDonald show for the masses...nothing about a 3 Star Michelin meal in that one.:whistle::rolleyes:...I'm moving on now;)
 
I enjoyed today’s episode quite a bit.

We finally got some real character growth and development.

As much as she’s been trying to deny it, she finally realized that she has not come to terms with being a hulk.

Bruce was right from the outset, that there would be two separate people warring inside of her. Even though she was always Jen, she was still two different people, and she finally became aware that unconsciously, she had been struggling between her two selves.

Of Course, she is a very naïve person, regardless of what she does for a living. She has just learned the hard way that trusting people the way she does it’s going to do her harm.

We finally have a set up for what this series is about.

I thought it was a solid, well written episode.
 
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I enjoyed today’s episode quite a bit.

We finally got some real character growth and development.

As much as she’s been trying to deny it, she finally realized that she has not come to terms with being a hulk.

Bruce was right from the outset, that there would be two separate people warring inside of her. Even though she was always Jen, she was still two different people, and she finally became aware that unconsciously, she had been struggling between her two selves.

Of Course, she is a very naïve person, regardless of what she does for a living. She has just learned the hard way that trusting people the way she does it’s going to do her harm.

We finally have a set up for what this series is about.

I thought it was a solid, well written episode.
I thought it was a cracking episode - funny, touching, very well-acted, and with a terrific final twist that sets up some real peril. I'm really loving Tatiana Maslany's performance, and Tim Roth was as brilliant as he always is. I actually really like the way the scripts actively work against the standard (and by now rather predictable) superhero tropes. It's just what it says on the tin - a light-hearted 'sitcom' whose protagonist happens occasionally to be a Hulk. :)
 
Does anyone know if any of Blomsky's other clients/patients are based on existing Marvel characters or are they original creations for the show?
 
Does anyone know if any of Blomsky's other clients/patients are based on existing Marvel characters or are they original creations for the show?
All are characters from comics.

Man-Bull is from the early 70s…Daredevil I THINK.

El Aguila is maybe early 80s…I THINK Iron Fist but maybe also Daredevil.

I think there have been several Porcupines.

Saracen is from Blade, I think after the first film came out?

The dude from earlier in the season, Wreck or Wrecker, I think is from the 60s but I’m not sure which comic.
 
All are characters from comics.

Man-Bull is from the early 70s…Daredevil I THINK.

El Aguila is maybe early 80s…I THINK Iron Fist but maybe also Daredevil.

I think there have been several Porcupines.

Saracen is from Blade, I think after the first film came out?

The dude from earlier in the season, Wreck or Wrecker, I think is from the 60s but I’m not sure which comic.
Brilliant! Thanks for that breakdown. Wrecker I recognised (from the comics and from the earlier scene in the alley. I thought I recognised the Porcupine costume, and I had a vague feeling that I'd seen Man-Bull before. But the others I didn't know for sure. It's definitely part of this show's rather tongue-in-cheek air that we saw some of the 'also-ran' supers. The therapy sessions were very funny... and yet also rather poignant. Take away the jokey overlay and there were some genuine truths being told. Who'd have thought the Abomination would make a counsellor... and not that bad a one too! I thought it was a rather kind and good-hearted 'feel-good' episode... and god knows we need as many of those as we can get right now.
 
I'm out. The best comment I saw on this series was:

The good news: There's only two episodes left.
The bad news: There are still two episodes left.

You could take out all the relevant information in this series that actually evolves what little plot it has and it would probably be 2 mins long. I don't get why people didn't like Ms. Marvel, maybe because they changed the character (IDK, not familiar with the previous comics), but it had a great story, interesting characters, and I thought it was great. When I turn this on, I immediately question why I'm putting myself through it, and then wondering if it's about over.
 
I'm out. The best comment I saw on this series was:

The good news: There's only two episodes left.
The bad news: There are still two episodes left.

You could take out all the relevant information in this series that actually evolves what little plot it has and it would probably be 2 mins long. I don't get why people didn't like Ms. Marvel, maybe because they changed the character (IDK, not familiar with the previous comics), but it had a great story, interesting characters, and I thought it was great. When I turn this on, I immediately question why I'm putting myself through it, and then wondering if it's about over.
Sounds like you might be a glutton for punishment or dig S&M more than you knew j/k.
 
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Or... here's a radical concept... IT WASN'T MADE WITH YOU IN MIND!

Guys, for real... if you're not enjoying the show, just stop watching it. There are tons of shows that aren't my cup of tea and I don't constantly go into threads about them just to **** on them and people who are actually enjoying the show and feel acknowledged by the creators.

When Jen finally opened up to the group in this last episode and talked about how all of her life, she felt ignored or overlooked and how if she could just be someone else, her whole life would be better... I mean ****! It's like she was channeling everything I felt as a younger woman until I got old enough to not give a **** about whether randos on the interwebs or in life like me.

If this show isn't doing it for you, THAT's OK! YOU DON'T HAVE TO WATCH! But, for ****'s sake, can you just stop acting like it's the end of the world that something doesn't cater to your sensibilities?!

/rant
 
I'm out. The best comment I saw on this series was:

The good news: There's only two episodes left.
The bad news: There are still two episodes left.

You could take out all the relevant information in this series that actually evolves what little plot it has and it would probably be 2 mins long. I don't get why people didn't like Ms. Marvel, maybe because they changed the character (IDK, not familiar with the previous comics), but it had a great story, interesting characters, and I thought it was great. When I turn this on, I immediately question why I'm putting myself through it, and then wondering if it's about over.

Really?

We saw one full episode and 10 min of the second episode of Ms Marvel. It was so teenagerish we just had to let it go. Where was Molly Ringwald ?

It was so odd, we couldn't even...
 
Or... here's a radical concept... IT WASN'T MADE WITH YOU IN MIND!

Guys, for real... if you're not enjoying the show, just stop watching it. There are tons of shows that aren't my cup of tea and I don't constantly go into threads about them just to **** on them and people who are actually enjoying the show and feel acknowledged by the creators.

When Jen finally opened up to the group in this last episode and talked about how all of her life, she felt ignored or overlooked and how if she could just be someone else, her whole life would be better... I mean ****! It's like she was channeling everything I felt as a younger woman until I got old enough to not give a **** about whether randos on the interwebs or in life like me.

If this show isn't doing it for you, THAT's OK! YOU DON'T HAVE TO WATCH! But, for ****'s sake, can you just stop acting like it's the end of the world that something doesn't cater to your sensibilities?!

/rant
We are criticising a show because it doesnt match what the established character usually does.

Continuity, my dear.

Don't call something She-Hulk then make it surprisingly non-She-Hulk.

I didnt know anyone who is acting like She Hulk is the "end of the world," we were just hoping for some good writing and a decent plot and a character with self-esteem.

We endured Scarlet Witch/vision and got a neato ending. When it is entertaining, I say so, but when its crap, it is crap.

Those in search os a positive-reviews only echo-chamber, this is not the place for you.

Edit- if you want to watch REAL CRAP, watch Moon Knight where the writer puts the character in a terrible, losing situation, like a final boss fight, and the character blacks out only to wake up having won! Like every episode of DangerMouse!
 
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Or... here's a radical concept... IT WASN'T MADE WITH YOU IN MIND!

Guys, for real... if you're not enjoying the show, just stop watching it. There are tons of shows that aren't my cup of tea and I don't constantly go into threads about them just to **** on them and people who are actually enjoying the show and feel acknowledged by the creators.

When Jen finally opened up to the group in this last episode and talked about how all of her life, she felt ignored or overlooked and how if she could just be someone else, her whole life would be better... I mean ****! It's like she was channeling everything I felt as a younger woman until I got old enough to not give a **** about whether randos on the interwebs or in life like me.

If this show isn't doing it for you, THAT's OK! YOU DON'T HAVE TO WATCH! But, for ****'s sake, can you just stop acting like it's the end of the world that something doesn't cater to your sensibilities?!

/rant
Psychologically you and others(female/male) have experienced the emotion and can relate.Possibly if one can not relate to having experienced the feeling,they might miss why it is impactful to another.
 
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We are criticising a show because it doesnt match what the established character usually does.
According to what? I'm not a particularly avid reader of she hulk comics, but from everything I've read she seems to be similarly competent and knowledgeable and a little bit smarty-pants, complete with 4th wall breaks.
Continuity, my dear.
This reads a bit condescending dude. Can't help but picture you adjusting your monocle and twisting the tips of your 'stache.
Edit- if you want to watch REAL CRAP, watch Moon Knight where the writer puts the character in a terrible, losing situation, like a final boss fight, and the character blacks out only to wake up having won! Like every episode of DangerMouse!
Moon Knight was great. The character blacks out when another personality takes over, and part of the fun was the discovery of the 3rd personality by the end. Again, maybe it wasn't for you, but that didn't make it crap.
 
Or... here's a radical concept... IT WASN'T MADE WITH YOU IN MIND!

Guys, for real... if you're not enjoying the show, just stop watching it. There are tons of shows that aren't my cup of tea and I don't constantly go into threads about them just to **** on them and people who are actually enjoying the show and feel acknowledged by the creators.

When Jen finally opened up to the group in this last episode and talked about how all of her life, she felt ignored or overlooked and how if she could just be someone else, her whole life would be better... I mean ****! It's like she was channeling everything I felt as a younger woman until I got old enough to not give a **** about whether randos on the interwebs or in life like me.

If this show isn't doing it for you, THAT's OK! YOU DON'T HAVE TO WATCH! But, for ****'s sake, can you just stop acting like it's the end of the world that something doesn't cater to your sensibilities?!

/rant
No matter how much we want to and how much sense we make, we can't control what other people do, only how we respond to it.
 
According to what? I'm not a particularly avid reader of she hulk comics, but from everything I've read she seems to be similarly competent and knowledgeable and a little bit smarty-pants, complete with 4th wall breaks.

This reads a bit condescending dude. Can't help but picture you adjusting your monocle and twisting the tips of your 'stache.

Moon Knight was great. The character blacks out when another personality takes over, and part of the fun was the discovery of the 3rd personality by the end. Again, maybe it wasn't for you, but that didn't make it crap.

Accoding to what? According to her looong history established in the comics. The point of the series is to bring a comic book characrer to life, Right? Was she advertised as "not to be confused with the She-Hulk from the comics" ?

But you admit you didnt really folliw the comics.

And I get it, you just want to be entertained,

...but I dont think you know what "condescending" means.

You just admitted to not really reading the comic, but then want to tell simeone who *has*, that because she checked certain superficial boxes, it is fine.

Um...well no, not if you care about continuity. Not if you actually *read* the comics. If yiu have seen and read what she did in prior, similar situations. Where else are followers of a *comic* character going to establish "continuity" other than from her comics?

Which you haven't really read.

People who actually read alot of her comics, who bought first issues when they came out, are telling you that her behaviour in the series is not She-Hulk. This has been discussed repeatedly in this thread, but then you and some others (repeatedly) toss that information aside and claim that isn't an issue.

....that is not how "continuity" works.

"But she broke the forth wall"You say.

So what?!?! That is a shallow idea of the character. So, as long as she "breaks the forth wall," it iis all good?!?!

"She's a party animal!"

Not really, she drinks herself stupid because she is so miserable.

The series took a great character and made her sad. Really, truly, honestly, it made her sad.

I could go on, but I covered this in my Strong Woman Attorney, Green and Alley McHulk posts.

The "condescending" part are the people who have no real knowledge base to decide how the character *should* behave, yet even after being provided examples of how she handled situations in the comic vs the show, think the fans who'd like some continuity are being "condescending."

...you didnt really follow her in the comics.

And YES Moon Knight was absolutely the laziest series Marvel has put out. Love it all you like, but having people "black out," because the writer knows he can create *ANY* situation and have the character "resolve by blackout" is vacuous.
 
Accoding to what? According to her looong history established in the comics. The point of the series is to bring a comic book characrer to life, Right? Was she advertised as "not to be confused with the She-Hulk from the comics" ?
This isn't the comics. It's an entirely separate entity, the entire MCU franchise always has been.
It's taking a premise from the comics, and adapting it to the screen. Not trying to create a 1:1 version of the comics.
So there is no continuity to break, this is her first appearance in this universe.
 
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