Disney buying Lucasfilm (new Star Wars movies on tap)
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Wakeem
Sr Member
Yesterday was a sad day. The prequels might suck but the whole point of George Lucas having the companies was to control his creation. I thought yesterday's news was an April Fools joke. I'm sure Red Letter Media could put together tons of videos now with a young George Lucas completely contradicting his older self. I don't know why this purchase by Disney needed to happen.
OldKen
Master Member
If they use the EU to make the new SW movies I'm gonna be pissed.
Yuuzhan Vong? Horrible. Not star wars at all.
The only thing I wouldn't mind them making cannon is Solo and Leia having kids that become powerful. But it needs to be all new...
Luke needs to be the old wizard of these movies. Leia and Han need cameos but not the main focus.
This has been a shock. I am excited and worried at the same time! LOL!
If they make 3 OT feeling movies that could REALLY turn things around for the franchise and from the tragedy of the PT....
Yuuzhan Vong? Horrible. Not star wars at all.
The only thing I wouldn't mind them making cannon is Solo and Leia having kids that become powerful. But it needs to be all new...
Luke needs to be the old wizard of these movies. Leia and Han need cameos but not the main focus.
This has been a shock. I am excited and worried at the same time! LOL!
If they make 3 OT feeling movies that could REALLY turn things around for the franchise and from the tragedy of the PT....
FSURobbie
Well-Known Member
I'll give you that, but to be fair, basing a trilogy and spin-off on an animatronic ride was a bad idea to begin with. If anyone other than Johnny Depp had been Jack Sparrow I doubt we would have had to deal with the other films.
Colin Droidmilk
Sr Member
A Sherlock not written by Conan Doyle is precisely what I'm talking about.
Trek unsupervised by Roddenberry ain't Trek as far as I'm concerned.
Who the heck is Sydney Newman? lol...
modelcitizen
Sr Member
it is the end of 2012. star wars movies have been shown to take 3 years to make. there will be no star wars movie released in 2015. it's bs. sorry
Qui-Gonzalez
Master Member
You are under the impression that this has not been underway for some time.
modelcitizen
Sr Member
and most are assuming it has perhaps...
the sale of lucasfilm, most certainly.
scripts story outlines ,prpreproduction work ready to shoot within months? highly doubtful
the sale of lucasfilm, most certainly.
scripts story outlines ,prpreproduction work ready to shoot within months? highly doubtful
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Well, in the YouTube video released this month where George and Kathleen talk about the Disney sale and New Star Wars film, they mentioned that the treatments are done and they are working with writers on scripts.
So if they can bust out the film in the next two years, they will be fine. That includes, script, concept art, storyboarding, filming, special effects builds and filming, post production, editing, final compositing, etc... Etc...
They can do it :lol
modelcitizen
Sr Member
yall can dream i reckon. heh
modelcitizen
Sr Member
aye. i don't see why i wouldn't be lol
just pulling heads out of orbit is all. no intention otherwise
just pulling heads out of orbit is all. no intention otherwise
Timmythekid
Sr Member
TS3 was essentially retreading the same emotional ground that TS2 did better. And "not too bad for a sequel"? Really, is that as high as we're willing to set the bar?
Look, I know people seem to be generally excited about more SW, but I'm just of the opinion that more isn't better. I was fine letting the story rest at 6 (three of which were groundbreaking, rollercoaster fun, and three others which were arguably "better than most other sequels out there", no matter what whining and moaning we do as fans), and despite being a huge, lifelong fan since '77, would have been perfectly content if there had never been another film. Also, this:
Sources tell The Hollywood Reporter that one possibility being considered is an Avengers-style movie universe with not only Lucas' planned final trio of films but offshoot movies focusing on individual characters
is just depressing. Within a day it's already starting to look like there is no overal story that is burning to be told here, just "how can we crank out more SW?". That's exaxctly the wrong way this needed to be approached, if it needed to be approached at all.
Disney has been known to put out some great groundbreaking films, especially in the animated world... But they also have been known to crank out sequel after sequel and direct to video franchise based crap. While they might handle SW 7,8,9 in a good way...they could also crank out off-shoot stuff just for the almighty dollar.
Ghadrack
Sr Member
It happened because he'd become disillusioned, tired of dealing with the weight of the Star Wars franchise and all of it's tangled messes, ready to essentially cash in his chips and take it easy. I thought it was a joke at first too, but honestly, 4 billion dollars, it's mind boggling to think about building a brand from next to nothing and cashing out for over 4 Billion dollars after you've had your way with it and were tired of dealing with its baggage. I have a feeling GL is about as worried about other people's perception of his integrity as he is about how many molecules it took to compose his debit card.
I just don't get the doom and gloom...For YEARS people have been saying "what if someone besides George made a new star wars film?" Now we are actually going to get that, and the sky is falling.
I love Star Wars...More OT than PT, but still love the franchise and appreciate George creating it. I for one am PUMPED about the thought of new films. And I actually think the Marvel style offshoot films makes perfect sense. It is a great big 'ol universe after all. With tons of interesting characters.
Will it be a money grab? SURE it will, but can someone actually keep a straight face and try to make the argument that there was a time when Star Wars didn't do that? Lucas has been set on making money from the films from the day he asked for those merchandising rights in the original contract.
On a different note...Has there been any talk of potential involvement by Rick McCallum?
Jason
I love Star Wars...More OT than PT, but still love the franchise and appreciate George creating it. I for one am PUMPED about the thought of new films. And I actually think the Marvel style offshoot films makes perfect sense. It is a great big 'ol universe after all. With tons of interesting characters.
Will it be a money grab? SURE it will, but can someone actually keep a straight face and try to make the argument that there was a time when Star Wars didn't do that? Lucas has been set on making money from the films from the day he asked for those merchandising rights in the original contract.
On a different note...Has there been any talk of potential involvement by Rick McCallum?
Jason
Timmythekid
Sr Member
First, they're all, and always HAVE been, wrong. So no contradiction there. Lucas is SW; it's his sandbox.
Second, yes, it's a business, but whatever feelings one might have about the movies, there is no denying that the man was trying to tell a story, and talk about some issues he felt were important. In the first trilogy, this was the sins of the father motif. In the PT, it was a treatise on how democracy falls, how people's fear can be used to get them to relinquish their freedom to a tyrant. Yeah, Lucas bungled the execution of the films badly (BADLY), but there is no denying that there are some big ideas in there.
My worry is that there is no story, no big ideas that LFL wants to explore, that NEEDS to be told here. Disney isn't saying they see a great story to tell in this universe. They're saying they see a consumer demand for a product, and how can they get lots of that product on the shelf? That's a very different propostition to "I make commericially successful movies for a living, and I think there's a way to talk about this anthropological and political stuff I've been ruminating on for several decades in a commerically successful movie.".
Too Much Garlic
Master Member
You nailed it. People saying they wanted someone else to direct - I don't recall anyone saying Lucas shouldn't be involved and if they did they are wrong - I especially always wanted to keep it with Lucas, as it is his child - but he works better as the idea man that others more skilled with writing and creating good characters and drama can then add on and play with. We have Empire Strikes Back as proof of that.
Without Lucas its just fan films.
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I agree that it is his sandbox. However, because of that, it was also his call as to how his "baby" would progress and grow. There are scores of amazing writers, directors, etc. that got into this business solely based on the impact that Star Wars had on them. I just think it is cool to think that those fans may now get a chance to play in the sandbox that inspired them.
In regards to Lucas and his stories...Again, I agree with you for the most part. But it has been widely reported that Lucas handed over a pretty detailed treatment for the next 3 episodes. So unless Disney completely chunks that out the window (not likely) then George's "voice" will still be there to some extent. But the difference is that another screenwriter will have a chance to do something special with those themes.
I think most would agree that Lucasfilm's two greatest films were ESB and Raiders. Both had Georges creative vision, coupled with another screenwriter, and different directors. These new films will have the same mix, with Kathleen Kennedy serving as George's hand-picked successor serving in the role of Executive Producer. I just fail to see that being a bad thing.
Don't get me wrong, bad decisions going forward could sink this thing quickly...(writer, director, and cast comes to mind)...But I'm betting good decisions will prevail. Disney knows how high the stakes are here.
Jason
In regards to Lucas and his stories...Again, I agree with you for the most part. But it has been widely reported that Lucas handed over a pretty detailed treatment for the next 3 episodes. So unless Disney completely chunks that out the window (not likely) then George's "voice" will still be there to some extent. But the difference is that another screenwriter will have a chance to do something special with those themes.
I think most would agree that Lucasfilm's two greatest films were ESB and Raiders. Both had Georges creative vision, coupled with another screenwriter, and different directors. These new films will have the same mix, with Kathleen Kennedy serving as George's hand-picked successor serving in the role of Executive Producer. I just fail to see that being a bad thing.
Don't get me wrong, bad decisions going forward could sink this thing quickly...(writer, director, and cast comes to mind)...But I'm betting good decisions will prevail. Disney knows how high the stakes are here.
Jason
