Disney buying Lucasfilm (new Star Wars movies on tap)

In the USA and UK during all those years getting Star Wars Toys or props were a lot easier than here.... but with the irruption of internet everithing was in our reach, specially with forums like the RPF. I have read that Disney Lawyers will go after anybody that is making props, replicas or any itmes without license....

If this is true, forums like this one will become scarce, and maybe with limited membership.... something like a ghost forum...


What do you think? Will this type of forums disappear? Will prop makers and their items also disappear?

SW props & all the movies would still be discussed, dissected, investigated, etc.

Very worst of the worst (with honours, sir) of the pessimistic doomsday outlooks like 21 December 2012, SW replica sellers will just go underground, not cease or vanish.

And in the grand scheme of things vis-a-vis the board becoming a ghost town, I very much doubt it. No eggs in one basket here. As Art said,

The nice thing in all of this is that Star Wars only makes up a very small percentage of this site compared to 7 or so years ago.

I feel this is also relevant.

I think there is some undue worry about SW replicas vis garage makers etc. Besides Iron man, that goes for many others too, like Rocketeer, POTC, National Treasure, etc etc etc.

Just don't mess with their mouse :lol
 
Yes, all these people asserting that the RPF is doomed and that Disney's flesh-eating lawyers are currently en route should just settle down.

As others have stated, do you honestly think Disney doesn't already know about the POTC/Tron Legacy/Spider-Man/Iron Man/Avengers/Rocketeer/National Treasure stuff that has been floating around here and elsewhere for years? And now - only now - will they decide to step in and enforce their rights in this newly-acquired property?

No one here knows what Disney's plans are with respect to the SW prop community, but there's already a precedent of "tacit permission," just like LFL has done for many years. Let's give the histrionics a rest.
 
No one here knows what Disney's plans are with respect to the SW prop community,

At this stage, and probably for a very, very, very long time to come, they're more interested in what they are going to have for lunch, and it certainly isn't Joe Brown making a saber out of windscreen wipers and plumbing accessories in his garage :lol

but there's already a precedent of "tacit permission," just like LFL has done for many years. Let's give the histrionics a rest.

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Am I the only one seeing something seriously wrong here? I'm not talking about the Mickey Mouse head or the text. :lol
 
Holy ****. I keep checking my calendar to make sure it's not 4/1.

I did the same thing after a friend told me about this.

The entire unaltered OT was released on DVD a few years ago, you guys know that right?

The only format in which the unaltered OT hasn't been released so far is blu-ray.

Yes, but it's in 480p resolution, and letterboxed, meaning that to view it full frame you have to put up with black bars and a tiny image. It's worse resolution than a DVD. It's passable and functional, but only barely.

Exactly. And this worked best on ESB.

Bingo.

This is pretty gut-wrenching. Disney's initial statement about the future of SW does not exactly inspire confidence. "We believe there is pent-up demand". Wow, that's...utterly board of directors, accountant thinking.

Perhaps, but think about what that also means for a restored, archival version of the OT? They know there's pent up demand for that, too. For me, seeing as how that's literally the only thing I really want from Star Wars anymore, I'd say this is good news. Everything after that is just gravy and sides.

Regarding the fan groups:

From Mary Franklin:

"Subject: Re: Rebel Legion status with new LFL/Disney?
Please pass this on to all the fan groups you know it you can.
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Sorry to be brief but I am setting up a big company meeting Q and A at the moment.
The costumed Star Wars fan community and all Star Wars fans are vital to Lucasfilm and Star Wars. Our relationship is so very important.
Please know that we are carrying on business as usual, and you can continue to contact me as you always have. "

Calm, please. :)


That statement doesn't necessitate calm. It simply means that folks don't know until the Q & A session. Maybe afterwards some issues will be resolved and the fangroup relationships will continue as far as costuming goes.

I can pretty much guarantee that props and armour sales will be tolerated to a much lesser degree.

We'll see, pretty soon.

The fan group stuff is only risky in that they do public, organized events. Just making a prop in your basement has always been fine to do, or at least strongly defensible. It's the guys who are selling gear that have exposure here, but I'd honestly expect that they'll be left alone UNLESS Disney offers a competing product. But think about it. Even the "deluxe" Halloween costumes are still pretty cheap at around $40-80. Someone offering a replica suit for around, oh, $1000? Not really cutting into Disney's market.

It'd be the stuff like replica sabres cutting into Hasbro's market that you'd really have to worry about, I'd figure. I mean, granted, Disney could swoop in and shut down most of this stuff, but I kinda doubt they will. It'd just seem...pointless unless they're going to offer a competing product or there's a risk of trademark abandonment. If memory serves, copyrights can't be "abandoned" the same way, although you do risk a laches defense with an individual infringer.

You know, it is within the realm of possibility that they know the fan groups are part of what makes the whole thing go and don't want to tamper with it.

People can post things about actual disney characters and there's no denying the force that's been used, however, Snow White, Mickey Mouse, Sleeping Beauty, etc, weren't propped up (no pun intended) by fan groups for years. I think it's two different things to be honest.

The statment may not necessitate calm, but it doesn't mean it won't be business as usual either.

As others have pointed out, i've seen plenty of tron and marvel stuff that hasn't had issues.

I thinking trying to force a change on it is biting the hand the feeds you and is asking for bad press before the movies can be released - something they definitely don't want. Granted, they could still go vindictive as hell, i just don't see it myself.

That's what I'm saying. And think of all the Jack Sparrow stuff (which has been mentioned) that's been left alone.

:popcornX-Wing to the PC/Console.

Oh man...don't tease me.

But what I REALLY want? A smuggler game. Like, Privateer with a first-person on-the-ground component, and a more robust, developed game world.
 
"Mickey Mouse raped my adulthood!"

Nah, dosen't have the same ring to it.

Still not sure what to make of it. But cutting out everything else down to one simple phrase...

...There will be a new Star Wars Trilogy....

And for all my worry about corporate money making, lawsuits, crapping on the EU, that phrase sure does make me feel just a little like an excited child again.
 
I was talking about the motivation behind the films. While Lucas obviously sold out on the licensing side, the actual films retained artistic expression as their main motivation. He made messes of those films, sure, but his heart was in the right place. Disney's won't be.

I'll grant that the first film was for the art, and give Lucas the benefit of the doubt for ESB and RotJ. The prequels were from a sold out Uncle George, not motivated (solely) by artistic expression.

Cynical as I am about Lucas and Disney, I have far more faith in Disney than I do in George sadly. Episode VII will be nothing but a cash grab, but at least there will people on the production who can say "no."
 
And for all my worry about corporate money making, lawsuits, crapping on the EU, that phrase sure does make me feel just a little like an excited child again.

I have to agree with that. Much as I was disappointed with the PT, fed up with EU, and cynical about how over-merchandized the entire franchise is the thought of new Star Wars is exciting as heck.

I never thought I'd be excited about Star Wars again, I got so fed up with it years ago. I have to give Disney credit for that.
 
I think that the prospects for new Indiana Jones "stuff" is very exciting. Even if it's only iPad games and new comics and such.

The Indiana Jones franchise is kind of blah right now. I'd like to see Disney make it really fun again.

And yes, I believe they could do it.
 
I was talking about the motivation behind the films. While Lucas obviously sold out on the licensing side, the actual films retained artistic expression as their main motivation. He made messes of those films, sure, but his heart was in the right place. Disney's won't be.

I won't accept a Disney SW movie in the same way I that I won't accept a Hercule Poirot novel not written by Agatha Christie, or a Tintin comic not drawn by Herge.

Oh and what about a Sherlock not written by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle? Or a Doctor Who not written by Sydney Newman? Or Trek not written by Gene Roddenberry?

These three examples show that a property does NOT die when the leading people move on or pass it on, rather it can flourish in the memory of what the original intents and spirit were behind the originals.

Disney itself is NOT making any Star Wars movies, no more than Paramount is making Star Trek. Its the team of writers, producers, directors, actors etc that make the movie what it is, not the main corporation.

And the same said about the props. Its going to be fine, since I can get my pick of an Iron Man helmet in the junkyard. As those new posters keep saying, KEEP CALM :) Will be exciting for my daughter and really, pretty fun.
 
I'm an OT fan, I grew up with it, and PT was a disappointment for me in most cases. Not sure what to think about the Disney future of Star Wars. Hope it will be ok, but even if it goes belly up, I still have my OT.
 
Disney itself is NOT making any Star Wars movies, no more than Paramount is making Star Trek. Its the team of writers, producers, directors, actors etc that make the movie what it is, not the main corporation.

Yeah, but who hires and fires those writers, producers, directors, etc.? Who's holding the purse strings for the entire production?

If a director isn't taking the film where Disney management wants to go, what do you think will happen? If the screenplay doesn't include enough cross-merchandising opportunities, who do you think has final say on that? If Alan Horn passes on "script suggestions," is anyone foolish enough to think those can be disregarded?

Again, I'm not saying Disney will meddle like this. I'm just saying that the potential for such heavy-handed control will always be out there. Disney may let other people drive the car, but make no mistake, it's Disney's car now.
 
Totally agreed here. I think there is some undue worry about SW replicas vis garage makers etc. Besides Iron man, that goes for many others too, like Rocketeer, POTC, National Treasure, etc etc etc.

Just don't mess with their mouse :lol

I think that's the key. I hear all sorts of C&D about non-licensed Mickey and friends stuff, but never about other properties.

Heck, even with all the Haunted Mansion stuff I see on here and no stories of Disney lawyers knocking on doors.

However, this might be an apples vs oranges kind of thing because Star Wars carries a MUCH bigger weight when compared to the Rocketeer, Haunted Mansion, etc.
 
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