Disney buying Lucasfilm (new Star Wars movies on tap)

Don't know if this has been mentioned before, but one positive thing about this sale:

The likelihood of every single re-release of the films containing new tweaks and changes has just gone down dramatically.

Now let's just hope Disney doesn't pull that "into the vault" crap to push immediate sales...
 
Don't know if this has been mentioned before, but one positive thing about this sale:

The likelihood of every single re-release of the films containing new tweaks and changes has just gone down dramatically.

Now let's just hope Disney doesn't pull that "into the vault" crap to push immediate sales...

I wouldn't worry too much about the Disney Vault.

Disney Vault - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
Don't know if this has been mentioned before, but one positive thing about this sale:

The likelihood of every single re-release of the films containing new tweaks and changes has just gone down dramatically.

Now let's just hope Disney doesn't pull that "into the vault" crap to push immediate sales...

Even if they did....so what? The Blu-Rays were just released. Anyone and everyone who wants a copy probably already has it. Anyone who doesn't...didn't buy 'em. I think it'd be more likely they'd keep sales going and use that to help fund a restoration of the OOT for release as part of a mega-set right around 2015 when they release the 7th film.

Yeah, but who hires and fires those writers, producers, directors, etc.? Who's holding the purse strings for the entire production?

If a director isn't taking the film where Disney management wants to go, what do you think will happen? If the screenplay doesn't include enough cross-merchandising opportunities, who do you think has final say on that? If Alan Horn passes on "script suggestions," is anyone foolish enough to think those can be disregarded?

Again, I'm not saying Disney will meddle like this. I'm just saying that the potential for such heavy-handed control will always be out there. Disney may let other people drive the car, but make no mistake, it's Disney's car now.

All true, and it raises an interesting issue with respect to creative control: the business vs. art split. WITH THIS PROPERTY SPECIFICALLY I'd be thinking more along the lines of it being good to have a bit more "business savvy" in the process. Lucas' own "artistic" approach (or at least singular vision) was the SOLE guiding force behind the PT. It seems that Lucas' vision was heavily present in KOTCS, too. In both cases, I would submit, it is the strength of the brand itself that carried the day, rather than the films being genuinely good films. There was also a LOT of backlash in the fan community, which continues to this day.

Disney MIGHT look at that and say "You know, why are we gonna **** all these people off? Maybe we can make somethign that makes every fan -- old and new -- happy. So, yeah, no Jar-Jar-like nonsense."

I'll grant you, the later Pirates films seemed bloated and dull, with a lot of mugging for the camera, but I can't help but wonder what drove that. Was it the suits at Disney, or timidity on the part of the creative team? Or was it simply instincts to "go bigger" rather than "go better"?

In the end, it doesn't really matter to me all that much. I'm at a point with both Indy and Star Wars where, as long as I have my originals (particularly restored ORIGINAL originals), I can look at the new stuff in a different light. That's new product for a new generation of fans, and that's fine. Some of it will appeal to me, much of it won't, but hey, whatever. It doesn't all have to be about me and my tastes. JUST GIVE ME THE DAMN RESTORED OOT. :)

I'll grant that the first film was for the art, and give Lucas the benefit of the doubt for ESB and RotJ. The prequels were from a sold out Uncle George, not motivated (solely) by artistic expression.

Cynical as I am about Lucas and Disney, I have far more faith in Disney than I do in George sadly. Episode VII will be nothing but a cash grab, but at least there will people on the production who can say "no."

See above. But I'd also argue that Lucas was shifting heavily towards "marketing" by ROTJ. (Wookies into Ewoks and such...)

I really think the issue is less whether it's done for sell-out reasons and more WHAT is done. I mean, Pirates of the Caribbean -- the first film -- was a total cash grab. An attempt at marketing a freaking RIDE as the basis for a film. And yet...it rocked. The first sequel was a little too big, but it was still pretty good. It just went off the rails in the 3rd and 4th films, but so it goes. My point, though, is that "cash grab" doesn't automatically translate into "crap fest."

The new Muppet movie could be argued as being a "cash grab" in that it's re-launching an old brand for a new audience. But I don't know any old-school Muppet fan who didn't view that film as a heart-string-pulling return to form.
 
Oh Noooooooooo!!

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That's... That's not even funny! Don't do that!!!
 
I have to suggest that a Star Wars movie discussion Category be created..as I foresee MANY discussions about Star Wars for the next several years...

(And of course an Ironman Build category...)
 
Disney MIGHT look at that and say "You know, why are we gonna **** all these people off? Maybe we can make somethign that makes every fan -- old and new -- happy.
Oh God, I hope not. At least Lucas had the balls to stick with what he wanted instead of trying to apiece everyone. The fact that his way didn't work so well with fans is another issue, because he went a little silly with the fart jokes. But he at least stuck to his guns.

Honestly, screw the notion of trying to do a movie for the fans and trying to work in everything that would satisfy a fan. Screw that. Those kinds of movies are usually so run-of-the-mill bland and boring and easily forgettable. Rather... go hunting for that good story and stick to it instead of going too broad and mainstream - even though Star Wars IS rather broad and mainstream, but it is that in that wonderful sense that it really IS for everyone, at least the OT, and they, like the first three Indiana Jones movies were just fun joyrides of the imagination.
 
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Even if they did....so what? The Blu-Rays were just released. Anyone and everyone who wants a copy probably already has it. Anyone who doesn't...didn't buy 'em.

Really? People have consistently re-purchased the Star Wars films every time Lucas has released them. His modus operandi is just slightly different than Disney's. Instead of making them available only for a limited time, he makes them very slightly different each time. ("Oh, you already purchased the mega VHS box set? Well, here's a super mega box set that includes one extra 15 minute documentary! Oh, you already have that? Here's the DVD set. You have THAT? Here's the bluray. Want more? How about the 3D Bluray!")

With Lucas, there was ALWAYS an "extra special" edition better than the current one around the corner. You can count on it.

But at least the films have also been pretty readily available (in whatever current version) on the shelves if people want them.

So my point stands: I hope Disney doesn't go for their "vault" crap to give the films false value by making them scarce.

And my comment doesn't just apply to stuff already out. In case you hadn't heard, they plan on making more movies now. :behave ;)
 
I have to suggest that a Star Wars movie discussion Category be created..as I foresee MANY discussions about Star Wars for the next several years...

(And of course an Ironman Build category...)

Ditto. I honestly expected to see a Star Wars thread at the top of every category this morning. You know it's coming.

I am excited though. It's been a very long time since I have felt that way about Star Wars.
 
Didn't they already do episode 7..... oops sorry I was thinking about John Carter.

Its good its finally in somebody elses hands, so I guess we shall see.
 
Not sure I think SW in Disney's hands is a bad thing. Sure it will be a cash grab, but unlike GL Disney is interested in keeping their cash cows viable so they will at the very least make an effort to keep the films respectable. Maybe I'm wrong in that, but I don't think so.

Oddly appropriate parody video:
'The Star Wars That I Used To Know' - Gotye 'Somebody That I Used To Know' Parody - YouTube

As far as props go, who knows what will happen, but if the Marvel properties are any indication I don't imagine too much will change as far as day to day activity around here. Could be wrong, but I doubt it.
 
They should let his ex-wife edit the new films, she did a great job on the original.

She did - along with Lucas himself (Falcon vs TIES), Paul Hirsch and Richard Chew. Most of Marcia's stuff was the end battle and all the discarded stuff of Luke and his pals on Tatooine. Hirsch and Chew did the rest, but on the interwebz this idea persists that Marcia edited most of the film.
 
Not sure I think SW in Disney's hands is a bad thing. Sure it will be a cash grab, but unlike GL Disney is interested in keeping their cash cows viable so they will at the very least make an effort to keep the films respectable. Maybe I'm wrong in that, but I don't think so.
Pirates of the Caribbean. Nuff said.

I'm honestly not seeing a difference in how Disney and LFL manages their property. They are in fact very similar.
 
She did - along with Lucas himself (Falcon vs TIES), Paul Hirsch and Richard Chew. Most of Marcia's stuff was the end battle and all the discarded stuff of Luke and his pals on Tatooine. Hirsch and Chew did the rest, but on the interwebz this idea persists that Marcia edited most of the film.
I am of the idea that while Marcia did not edit most of the film, she DID manage to rein George in a bit on his silliness.
 
Disney hasn't interferred with Pixar or Marvel Studios, I wouldn't bank on them taking creative control away from Kennedy. The current model has worked well for Pixar and Marvel - let them produce the films and create the content, then run them through Disney's massive marketing, home entertainment, and consumer product machines.

As for impacting the value of current props, your guess is as good as mine. I am glad however that LucasFilm will now have the resources to pursue a 3rd trilogy.

Exactly! Disney owns Lucasfilm, they're not running LFL. It's not like they'll be gutting all the management and replacing them with Disney yes-men. Of course KK will be reporting in to the Disney head honcho, but from everything I've heard and read, they'll still be operating as they have before, just with more backing than in the past.

As for the fan groups, as has been stated, Disney hasn't messed with the Marvel costumers and I doubt much will happen with the 501st and Rebel Legions. Could stuff happen? Sure, but there's enough people at LFL who've worked with the fan groups that will hopefully be able to preserve the working relationship that's been in place for so long and convince Disney to just lay off.

In regards to the props, who knows? Maybe they'll start going after all the prop makers, maybe they'll take a page from LFL and just keep an eye on them and nail the ones who are really exploiting the brand for major personal gain (ie. NOT most of the prop makers doing costumes - profit margin on a TK isn't as much as you might think.)

As a member of the 501st and Rebel Legion, I'm not worried. Maybe we'll get some additional rules to follow, maybe not. All this fear-mongering and worrying that the sky's gonna fall is a load of crap.

About the Episode VII or future movies, I'm hoping they follow the Solo kids. That would be cool. And for those forecasting a "reboot", all I have to say about that is, "Good friggin' luck with that!" Doing a reboot of the original trilogy would be suicide. To say that you could do it better (which is mostly the point of reboots) is absolutely ridiculous. Not going to happen. Ever.
 
I think that people are worry too much about how Disney will handle the new Star Wars films, remember, it's not Disney who will be producing them, it will still be Lucas Films with Disney being the ones who distribute it. I'm sure that Disney will be putting in their $.02 worth in what they'd like or want to see in future Star Wars movies but I'm pretty certain that at the end of the day it will be LF & Kathleen Kennedy doing all of the work. After all, LF isn't being merged into the Disney film studio but will remain a separate entity within the Disney family of companies, much like Marvel, ABC, & Pixar.

Speaking of Pixar, I think that Pixar is a perfect example of how a formerly independent studio bought out by Disney can work. Pixar still does its own thing and while owned by Disney it isn't run by Disney and near as I can tell the most that Disney does is dictate the kind of movie they want to see like more Cars, Toy Story, and Monsters Inc. but doesn't seem to be telling Pixar how to go about doing it. I'm sure that the same will be true here, they've told Kathleen Kennedy that they want LF to make more Star Wars movies and it now be up to her to determine how to go about doing that.

Another thing to remember and consider is John Lasseter is a part of Disney these days as the chief creative officer which means that he might just have some say in the new Star Wars movies. I'm not saying that he's going to write or even contribute to the writing but I wouldn't be surprised if every draft of the script for the new movies don't go past his desk for review. If that proves to be the case then I'd have high hopes for the new movies being pretty decent as I trust his judgement.
 
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