Can you print a few of them out in various sizes between 13 and 16, then show us what they look like in the bag? Might have to tape 2 pages of them together to get the length.
Dexter's Kill Bag and Tools
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Can you print a few of them out in various sizes between 13 and 16, then show us what they look like in the bag? Might have to tape 2 pages of them together to get the length.
I think this is the screw
Socket products, Socket flat head screws, Stainless steel 18-8
1/2" if you use 1/8 for the blade, and 3/16 for each handle (#4449).
Socket products, Socket flat head screws, Stainless steel 18-8
1/2" if you use 1/8 for the blade, and 3/16 for each handle (#4449).
Here's a rough recreation of my scaling. (This is a quickie example without normalizing the dimensions across multiple images)
When measured with the ruler, the 8" blade gave me a reading of 2.472. So dividing 2.472 into 8 gave me a scaling factor of 3.23624595. I then measured the kill knife blade, which gave me a reading of 2.086.
2.086 * 3.23624595 = ~6.751" A discrepancy of less than 1.5% when compared to the numbers I posted. (And once again, this was a VERY quick scaling)
With the blade scaled, the image of the prop master holding the knife can be used to obtain the full length of the knife as well as the length of the handle.
I'm sticking with my numbers...
13.207" overall with a 6.65" blade. (Try those numbers Pitbull and see how it looks in the bag and in your hand)
-Nick
When measured with the ruler, the 8" blade gave me a reading of 2.472. So dividing 2.472 into 8 gave me a scaling factor of 3.23624595. I then measured the kill knife blade, which gave me a reading of 2.086.
2.086 * 3.23624595 = ~6.751" A discrepancy of less than 1.5% when compared to the numbers I posted. (And once again, this was a VERY quick scaling)
With the blade scaled, the image of the prop master holding the knife can be used to obtain the full length of the knife as well as the length of the handle.
I'm sticking with my numbers...
13.207" overall with a 6.65" blade. (Try those numbers Pitbull and see how it looks in the bag and in your hand)
-Nick
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Yeah, comparing the screen shot with you pic, the screen knife is sticking out, I'd guess 1.5-2"
no it sounds good and I see what your saying.The only thing I'm worried about is that the kill knife ain't sticking out of the pocket too much which can ruin our dimensions ya know
Here's a rough recreation of my scaling. (This is a quickie example without normalizing the dimensions across multiple images)
When measured with the ruler, the 8" blade gave me a reading of 2.472. So dividing 2.472 into 8 gave me a scaling factor of 3.23624595. I then measured the kill knife blade, which gave me a reading of 2.086.
2.086 * 3.23624595 = ~6.751" A discrepancy of less than 1.5% when compared to the numbers I posted. (And once again, this was a VERY quick scaling)
With the blade scaled, the image of the prop master holding the knife can be used to obtain the full length of the knife as well as the length of the handle.
I'm sticking with my numbers...
13.207" overall with a 6.65" blade. (Try those numbers Pitbull and see how it looks in the bag and in your hand)
-Nick
see nick the thing is my bread knife is pretty much identicle to the one in the kill bag and when i measured down from the rivets on the blade to match the handle on the kill knife the handle was exactly 7 inches?
Part of the problem is that you're measuring all the way to the bottom of the knife bag. 1) Knives don't sit completely flush in the bottom, 2) The Kill Knife doesn't come anywhere NEAR touching the bottom of its pocket, as you can see here, it is too short:
It has been given a 1.57" lift. (Probably just a small piece of wood or something put in there by the production crew to better display the knife in the bag for the cameras)
That lift, plus my numbers gives 14.78", (The total height from the bottom of the Kill Knife's pocket to the tip of the blade) which is almost exactly between both of your estimates of size.
Like I said, I'm sticking with my numbers. Overall length: 13.207"; Blade length: 6.65".
-Nick
*Also take a look at the length of the two lines you've drawn. The one you have labeled as 7" is actually longer than the one marked 7 1/2"*
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yeah :wacko it's late and I'm going to bed :lol
Hahaha, if not, I'll be happy to do more math until people are satisfied. I want people to be happy that my scaled size is as close as humanly possible to the real knife, so I'm willing to "show my math" (literally and figuratively) if that's what it takes.
We all want the same end result, here, so let's work towards it!
-Nick
pinder91
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I appreciate the enthusiasm trying to figue out the scale here, but the engineer in me is going nuts with the eye-balling and guessing the last 2 pages.
Does anyone here actually own one of the Mundial knives yet? Yes, it may be listed as an 8 inch Chef's knife, but how long is the blade for real? I would bet it's not exactly 8 inches.
However, some here do own the Messermeister roll. It's 29 inches wide. Based on the "known" width of the bag and this shot
of the open roll and the kill knife where neither is "heavily" distorted, I come up with damn near 7 inches for the blade length.
Nick is doing great work with this, but let's save ourselves some time/trouble/headache and wait until we have solid measurements to scale off of. Hell I'll even bring a pair of calipers with me to Sears tomorrow after work to try and measure one of the blades.
Does anyone here actually own one of the Mundial knives yet? Yes, it may be listed as an 8 inch Chef's knife, but how long is the blade for real? I would bet it's not exactly 8 inches.
However, some here do own the Messermeister roll. It's 29 inches wide. Based on the "known" width of the bag and this shot
of the open roll and the kill knife where neither is "heavily" distorted, I come up with damn near 7 inches for the blade length.
Nick is doing great work with this, but let's save ourselves some time/trouble/headache and wait until we have solid measurements to scale off of. Hell I'll even bring a pair of calipers with me to Sears tomorrow after work to try and measure one of the blades.
One of the methods I used to normalize my scale was to try to find my scaling ratio using both the 8" Chef's Knife AND the 8" Bread Knife, then adding that to my overall averaging. That way, even if they were both slightly off, they'd most likely average out to be closer to 8" than either would be on its own.
The distortion drove me crazy at first. I've since been working from straightened images, with as much of the perspective removed as I can humanly manage. That said, so long as the knives all exist within the same planar space (and thus would be affected by perspective and any other distortions similarly) they should make fairly accurate scaling tools.
Please do! I love good data. The more I get the more accurate this becomes. If you did that, you'd be my hero.
Also, can anyone tell me what episode the image I've been using for my overlays is from? I wanted to get a higher resolution snapshot of it to help scale.
This is the image I'm talking about:
-Nick
pinder91
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That was a great idea! The problem is if the "real" length of those blades is more or less than 8 inches, and just throws everything off. :angry
I'll try to get as many measurements as I can and send them your way ASAP. Senior design is taking away too much of my "me time".
DarkPassenger
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DarkPassenger
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On another note, we have (or almost have) everything now but the small Bone Saw. Anyone find anything on that?
I have looked under Veterinarian tools also because of how small it is. Nothing.
I have looked under Veterinarian tools also because of how small it is. Nothing.
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