Dexter's Kill Bag and Tools
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And I'm pretty sure that other mystery knife is really that spatula that was posted many pages back (the one with the black-dotted handle) and it should be cut down to shape. It's pretty common for props to be modified existing products, so don't get too upset that you can't buy the thing off-the-rack and ready to go!
And I'm pretty sure that other mystery knife is really that spatula that was posted many pages back (the one with the black-dotted handle) and it should be cut down to shape. It's pretty common for props to be modified existing products, so don't get too upset that you can't buy the thing off-the-rack and ready to go!
pinder91
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Like I said on page 5, CAD and design is what I go to school for, so I have very close connections with my University's Manufacturing Department.
I was merely just trying to help the rest of you out. Afterall, 3D modeling and drawing up blueprints will be my profession shortly. :thumbsup
While still remaining on the topic of kill tools, has anyone looked into his syringe and or scalpel?
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Okay, so, based on the behind the scenes look at the knives, it appears that there are actually two nearly identical designs for the Kill Knife. The only difference appears to be a small protrusion of the tang, on the blade-side, at the top of the handle. This protrusion could also be an optical illusion created by the different reflective qualities of the steel for the blade, the aluminum for the handle, and the fact that immediately above that area on the tan is the bevel for the blade, creating a visual disunion. Also, the only times it seems to exist are the times when the knife is turned slightly sharpened-side towards the camera in the behind the scenes stuff, which also might make the depth of the handle appear to be part of the tang.*
All of the stunt knives appear to have their tangs completely flush with the grip plates, so it's my working theory that the protrusion (if it is there) is a simple safety measure on the REAL, sharp knife to prevent the actor's hand from accidentally slipping forward onto the blade.
The question becomes which do you guys feel is more indicative of the design? Does having the stunt knives all flush mean that that's the way the designers want it to be viewed? Or does the fact that the actual knife might have the protrusion mean that THAT'S the way it should be.
I've made up a quick comparison between the two designs. Post and let Jimmy and me know which you feel is more accurate/you want more.
Also, just for fun, here's how big the kill knife (Using my scaling) would appear in my tiny, pale hands:
(I might as well have some fun while sitting at the computer for hours on end)
-Nick
*I believe the protrusion is an optical illusion. I've now been frame-by-framing the behind the scenes video for about 40 minutes straight, and although I went back and forth originally, now, it appears to be the depth of the handle creating the look to my eye.
All of the stunt knives appear to have their tangs completely flush with the grip plates, so it's my working theory that the protrusion (if it is there) is a simple safety measure on the REAL, sharp knife to prevent the actor's hand from accidentally slipping forward onto the blade.
The question becomes which do you guys feel is more indicative of the design? Does having the stunt knives all flush mean that that's the way the designers want it to be viewed? Or does the fact that the actual knife might have the protrusion mean that THAT'S the way it should be.
I've made up a quick comparison between the two designs. Post and let Jimmy and me know which you feel is more accurate/you want more.
Also, just for fun, here's how big the kill knife (Using my scaling) would appear in my tiny, pale hands:
(I might as well have some fun while sitting at the computer for hours on end)
-Nick
*I believe the protrusion is an optical illusion. I've now been frame-by-framing the behind the scenes video for about 40 minutes straight, and although I went back and forth originally, now, it appears to be the depth of the handle creating the look to my eye.
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Yes, lets please decide on this issue before I bring the plans to the metal shop.
Hazelrah
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So after hours and hours of google-fu... I have yet to even remotely find anything close to the small saw. After realizing that there is a rather high percentage of modified as well as found items in this collection I pose this question... do you think the small saw frame could possibly be a modified version of the larger one? The leg cut off and the handle having a section removed and rewelded to reshape it? just a though...I'll keep looking...
That seems like a lot of work for something that is just "filler" in the bag. You may also try contacting the manufacterer of the full-size saw and email them a photo of the kill tools and point out the small one - they may even make it OR could give you a good lead on where to get it (if it's even a 'found' item and not custom) that's your best bet right now.
Thanks for putting in the time to search!
DarkPassenger
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I have torn apart Google and eBay for the small bone saw frame when I was IDing all the knives and I couldn't find it anywhere. I suppose buying another Large frame Bone Saw and grinding off that back plate wouldn't be too hard.
Great work NickFox!!
Great work NickFox!!
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DarkPassenger
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I think this picture should convince everyone Knife #2 is the Spatula. It looks to be bent where the handle and blade meet. It appears to not be laying flat on the table. I wouldn't expect a spatula to be completely straight handled.
Now if only we could find that Syringe Case...
Now if only we could find that Syringe Case...
DarkPassenger
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I found two very good places to see the Kill Knife up close and then sideways if someone can take Screen Caps (PITBULL, Thanks!). I am still going through Season 3 and then I will check Season 4 for more pics of the Kill Knife.
Season 3 Episode 6- 51:15. Close up shot of the handle and blade meeting. After seeing this cap it would seem Bump Tang is the way to go.
Season 3 Episode 6- 51: 29. A nice close view of the Kill Knife sideways.
Season 3 Episode 6- 51:15. Close up shot of the handle and blade meeting. After seeing this cap it would seem Bump Tang is the way to go.
Season 3 Episode 6- 51: 29. A nice close view of the Kill Knife sideways.
DarkPassenger
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You're the man, Pitbull!
franz bolo
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I think there's only 1 knife. The guy never mentions 2 real knives. Right above the handle, the blade goes in a little (indent), them goes back out but the blade width is smaller than the handle width on both sides.
There's also an overhang on the back of the handle.
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There's also an overhang on the back of the handle.
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That overhang, could easily be an optical illusion created by having the knife turned slightly "edge-side" towards the camera. That makes the drop in depth between the handle and the tang appear to be a drop in width.
Note that you can actually see the depth of the handle on one side, but not on the other. To my eye, the tang appears flush with the handle on the side with the smaller indent, but let me look at it a bit.
As for that indent at the bottom of the blade. Are there any other reference materials that show that, because when working that was the only image that I saw that included that appeared? Everything else appeared to show it being flush. But if we can find a better shot of that element, so I have something to accurately reference, I'd gladly change it.
-Nick
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