Dewback_Rider's ANH Macrobinocular Build

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  1. Dewback_Rider

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    I'm collecting parts needed for this build, but thought I would begin by showing the Kalimar REFLEX viewer and its removal, to help anyone who is working on this build.

    EDIT: This viewer, shown being unscrewed from the Kalimar Reflex is NOT the one I ended up using. I was lucky enough to find a complete Kalimar Six-Sixty with the correct viewer which slides in and out of its retaining clip.


    A few angles of the REFLEX viewer:

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    And now, the removal:

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    Also, removing the front plate to get the lens ring out (after scraping the vinyl off):

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    Last edited: Mar 16, 2017
  2. Dewback_Rider

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    Here are a few pics of my Eumig. I'll post up pics of its tear-down/prep when I do that:

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  3. Dewback_Rider

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    Here's the Bell and Howell, and how to get the knob off:

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    I also scored a set of Seagull knobs. Here's how to take the larger one apart and insert the B&H knob:


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  4. jun

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    Dewback rider, I wanted to let you kow how much I appreciate the pictures you have posted. The step by step pics are amazing and wil come in handy when I take mine apart. Thanks and keep it up!
     
  5. Dewback_Rider

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    Thanks Jun. I'm trying to take step-by step pics as I go for just that reason, to help others that want to do this project. I had and still have a lot of questions about HOW a lot of the work is done.

    Many threads show people acquiring pieces or making parts, and then suddenly they are on the macro set, with little explanation of how it got there.

    Hopefully it will follow the same lines as my Sterling to E11 conversion.
    If you ever do one of those, here's the link to my conversion blog:

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  7. Dewback_Rider

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    Thanks Clutch! :cool
     
  8. Dewback_Rider

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    I have been playing around with a Transition Box Template which incorporates the thin mounting piece for the Kalimar, and the transition box into one piece.

    Here is a link to the PDF I made:

    http://propaholics.wolfchasers.com/uploader/users/tyranus10/Transition%20Box%20Template.pdf

    If you want to try it out, print it at 100%, all fold lines in black are folded toward you (as you look at the printout).

    The one line indicated with green folds AWAY from you (as you look at the printout).

    The blacked out areas are to be cut out and open.


    Cut it out and give it a try and see what you think. :)

    EDIT: This transition box is just one I was playing around with making, and is not to be considered 100% accurate by any means.
     
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  9. Dewback_Rider

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    I was 10 when I saw Star Wars back in '77, and immediately wanted to live in that world, and play with those gadgets.

    I bought the SUPER SIZE comic book and guided by its drawings (because there was not even a VHS tape to review and freeze-frame for images to work from) I made a wooden lightsaber from what I had available - 4 pieces of quarter round molding that I glued together, cut, hollowed the emitter end out, painted rust-oleum silver and added black grips, a screw in swiveling loop hook in the end, and a jeweled activation stud on the handle, just like the comic.

    I didn't know then about Graflex ear tabs for holding in the bulb of the flash handle, I just knew SOMETHING stuck out from the back of the saber's front tip, so I glued on two small strips of wood there too.

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    I also wanted a set of macros like Luke used on Tatooine, spying on Tuskens, scanning the horizon. So, I set to making a set - again, out of what I had lying around. I was 10, so I had to be creative.

    I started by gluing four 2x4s together to make up the main body. Sanded them smooth and painted them black. They were heavy, but it seemed to me then that macros should have some heft to them.

    Again, I turned to the pieces of quarter round and glued them together for what would become the eye pieces/viewers.

    You have to remember, this was 1978, and there was precious little reference material except the 20-30 times I had already seen the movie.

    My father worked for the telephone company overseeing several projects that had to do with mechanical switching centers,and he was always bringing home burned out circuit boards or bits of equipment for me to have for my "projects". Many of those parts can be seen on these early macros, as well as a few TV parts, cassette recorder pieces, part of a watch, a few rivets pounded in to give the surface more greeblies, and in later years, a part of a wrecked X-wing model became a permanent resident above the eyepieces.

    On the bottom, I attached two steel straps that I had clamped in a vice and hammered around into a U shape for belt clips. The weight of the 2x4s needed something sturdy to hold it up!

    The "lenses" on the front were made from spray paint can tops painted black, because the inner loop inside looked sort of like the recessed lens opening.

    This piece of my childhood, which survives with layers of dust, a few missing pieces, gross inaccuracy, but lots of love and commitment to the build, are why I am working on my screen-accurate macros today. I just thought I would share the motivation.

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  10. R.P. McMurphy

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    Re: Dewback_Rider's Luke ANH Macro Build

    Love it!
     
  11. clancampbell

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    Fantastic, and thanks for the detailed tutorial too!

    Rich
     
  12. Dewback_Rider

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    Thanks, and you're welcome, Rich.
     
  13. Dewback_Rider

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    Here's a quick build-up of my transition box template (posted above)

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    And the Kalimar viewer should slip perfectly into the opening for either screw-mounting or gluing. I'll try that when I get home and snap a quick pic.

    EDIT: This Transition box is just one of my own design, and is not remotely accurate. In the end, I decided to use one produced by another member here.
     
    Last edited: Feb 15, 2017
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  14. Lichtbringer

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    Re: Dewback_Rider's Luke ANH Macro Build

    This thread is great, and very helpfull. :)

    Many thanks for your work.
     
  15. Cameron

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    Re: Dewback_Rider's Luke ANH Macro Build

    Dew,
    Thanks for sharing your "early" build. That thing is awesome!!!
     
  16. Dewback_Rider

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    Thanks Lichtbringer and Cameron! :)

    I had a lot of fun building those early macros and carrying them through many adventures, on many distant planets, somehow all contained to my backyard.
     
  17. Cameron

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    When your young all you need is your backyard. Aint that awesome!!
     
  18. Dewback_Rider

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    Absolutely, Cameron!

    Here are a few pics of the Kalimar viewer placed in my transition box. The fit seems to be perfect.

    Does anyone who has built a macro set have any comments or critique of this new transition box design?


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  19. Dewback_Rider

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    PastorJedi just made me a custom plaque for displaying my macros once completed.
    Thanks for the beautiful work!

    I also had him make up some for a few of my other props:

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  20. Lichtbringer

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    Sweeeeet. :cool
     
  21. Dewback_Rider

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    Re: Dewback_Rider's Luke ANH Macro Build

    I was looking through a few images and have come to the conclusion that the transition box used on the original prop seems to have been smaller, not much taller than the Eumig body.

    Many of the builds I have seen show the box sticking way out on the side with the belt clip.

    These images seem to suggest that it was much smaller.

    What are your thoughts?

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    Here's one from a build that seems to make it much taller.

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  22. Lichtbringer

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    Aye, small.
     
  23. miknugget

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    Yes smaller :cool Not much wider than the viewfinder itself.

    Also mind the mount, notice that hangs off a bit on the mystery box side. You can see a screw head there.
     
  24. Dewback_Rider

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    Does anyone have the STUNT and HERO images they can post in here for side-by-side comparison? Maybe the transition boxes were different for each?
     
  25. miknugget

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    They were different, you have the stunt there in the photo of fixer and camie.
     
  26. miknugget

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    How are you coming with your progress?

    Does anyone know what is going on with the transition box in the small photo above? I cannot make out the curved side, and there is some weird angle on the switch side.
    Was this another variant?

    Also do we know for sure that the black lens portion of the eumig was removed for mounting the transition box? In the small photo you can make out the black tab.
    When I look at killdozer's photo the appearance of overhang where the screw head is, can be achieved if the transition box is mocked up with the eumig lens portion intact.
     
  27. Dewback_Rider

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    Re: Dewback_Rider's Luke ANH Macro Build

    After a hiatus, I have picked up a transition box and clip for mounting my kalimar viewer, so the game is back on.

    No progress on locating the identity of the side box, and while I have been away, there was a discovery of a side box on the transtition piece?? What's that? Any info?

    I have solid, one-piece resin lenses (grey resin) to detail and would love to hear any insight into what silver and colored paints any of you have used for detailing your resin lenses, the ones I have seen look great!

    Also, does someone mold/make authentic Kalimar thumb buttons for adding to the lenses?

    Thanks for any help you can give.
     
  28. Dewback_Rider

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    Ok, what's the concensus about keeping this little protruding piece of metal and mounting the transition box below it, or dremeling it away and mounting it flush as shown here:

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  29. Marv

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    I cannot see that they would have milled that away?
     
  30. Starwoid

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    So I just received my Eumig and won't have the money until after the first of the year to get the other cameras or possibly some replicas of parts so I figured I'd start with the transition box since I have some thin aluminum laying around.

    I have looked through and read most of the threads on the Macro build and had some questions concerning the transition box that were previously discussed here.

    1. The template, as previously discussed here, seems to create the box that is larger, width-wise, than the photos referenced above. Was a newer template created or did we decide that the template as is was the standard? It looks as if the flat part where the viewfinder attaches could only be the size it is do the diagonal portion would have to be shortened, is this correct?

    2. In the photo of Fixer and Camie, are we seeing the stunt or Hero? It looks as if the transition box is deeper from the Eumig to the viewfinder than the template is. If its the stunt version that is deeper, I'll stick with the less deep hero version that the template offers.

    I am sure I will have more questions as I get further into the build.
     
  31. Marv

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    Unless someone here is offering transition boxes, the best way to start with this is to have the Kalimar viewer and work from that. HB1098S was talking of making some but not sure where that is now. I actually had been penning down what I thought would work but those drawings could be anywhere now as everything in the house got moved round for Christmas.
     
  32. HB1098S

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    I am still going to have the T boxes, belt clips, and other parts laser cut. Give me till the new year and I'll have more info, thanks
     
  33. Starwoid

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    So I am on HB1098S's interest list, but that is not why I resurrected this thread so unless you are heloing with the abive questions, move along... move along.

    Can anyone speak to the inconsistencies of the sizing in the photos?
     
  34. Clutch

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    Fixer is holding 'stunt'. Totally different camera.
     
  35. Bengrim09

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    Is this thread now dead as I'm interested in the results is this build as I'm slowly collecting parts for my own build as well as in the process of building my Vader reveal but in the meantime I was going to build the Tbox but don't see a final decision on the size of it.

    is there anybody still at this ?
     
  36. Dewback_Rider

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    Hi guys, I'm sorry it's been so long, but I was taking care of my sick father (for about 3 years in and out of hospitals and physical rehab centers), and then he passed away, and I was working through his estate and the sale of my childhood home - Very heavy stuff if you haven't gone through it.

    With that said, I had still been collecting pieces for the build, and now have almost everything needed to complete it.

    I don't think I showed them previously in the thread, but here are the smaller harvested knobs needed for atop the transition box, and for the side of the macros:

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    Also, I was able to score not one, but TWO authentic Kalimar Kaligar 1:28 f=80mm lenses:

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    I also had a day this past Fall where the weather was nice, so I decided to work on my build on the patio table.

    I mounted the knobs to the transition box, and the box to the Eumig.

    I also carefully drilled out the holes for mounting the larger side knobs. This is what it looked like when I finished for the day:

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    I mounted the lens rings in the lens mounting plate, screwed in the lenses, and placed them in position, taking a few pics to see what it would look like:

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    I am still wrestling with the best way to attach the lens mounting plate to the Eumig.

    Can others please post in with their methods? Pictures would be awesome. Thanks in advance.

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    I have also been thinking about the mysterious, unknown, unidentified "dark side of the moon" black greeblie.

    Since we don't know what it was, or exactly what it is supposed to look like, I think I have decided to fashion something myself - creating a base, and adding these circled black plastic parts from the macros I made as a kid - to honor the creativity of my childhood, and tie me to the excited energy of that time:

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  37. Dewback_Rider

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    Also, for anyone looking to start this build, this is a collection of the pieces you will need (not my photo) :

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    I am planning on trying to modify my belt clip to mount on the Eumig, and still leave access to the release button into the Eumig body - has anyone done that? PLease post in and share how.
     
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  38. Pedro

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    This is super cool, and I 200% approve of the use of bits of your old macros! Though I'd kinda want to leave that relic intact. Seeing your childhood props makes me happy, you were obviously destined for this!
     
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    Thanks Pedro!
     
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    I am still wrestling with the best way to attach the lens mounting plate to the Eumig.

    Can others please post in with their methods? Pictures would be awesome. Thanks in advance.
     
  41. Friendly flyer

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    Man, did they cannibalise old cameras back then!

    Of course, in 1976 these were yesterdays news and diem a dozen, not relics of the days of yore like they are now.

    Your childhood prop was amazingly cool! Hopefully my own offspring will grow up as handy and inventive as that!
     
  42. Bengrim09

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    Nice to have you back on this build D.R sorry to hear about your father.
    as to fixing the lense plate to the Eumig I was thinking of drilling the plate and riveting to the eumig before you fixed the lenses, would that be possible if you had the lense rings attached to the plate first ? I don't have any lenses as yet so I'm just speculating and thinking ahead
    Ben
     
  43. scottjua

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    I'll get pics soon, but I also mentally struggled with it, and then decided to screw it... and do the easiest thing, because that's probably what the prop guys did. I drilled and tapped three holes in between the lenses and used 4-40 stainless screws. Solid as heck and you can't see the screws unless you're looking for them.
     
  44. Dewback_Rider

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    Thanks for the kind words and suggestions Friendly Flyer, BenGrim09, and scottjua.

    I haven't decided yet how best to mount the lens plate, but may go with two screws through the center into the Eumig, backed with a super strong epoxy behind the plate (not on the lenses or threads).

    I figure I have taken this long to collect and bring together all the necessary pieces, I at least owe it the work of thinking the assembly through as thoroughly as possible.

    I will post in with any movement forward, and include photos.

    Thanks for posting in. I love this prop - not just because it is kind of obscure, but because the original either no longer exists, or has yet to surface, and because it brings back great memories of childhood, sitting in the theater watching Luke have his adventure in the canyon.
     
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  45. Dann

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    You should've mounted that transition box further off to the side of the Eumig. You may not have room for the triangle box and knob, now.
     
  46. RoyDeckard

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    Regarding that side greeble that is still unknown (and I'm not sure if this item was ever considered), it almost looks like a modified Stagepin connection that is used on old Concert conventional lights:
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    Maybe if you can find/modify a smaller version of one of these it will work well? I believe smaller versions are around but the ones we use in concert lighting are a bit too big, I think. I'll have to double check when I get my Eumig in within the next month or so..
     
  47. HB1098S

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    Check out my Macro build thread
     
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    I scored a VTR connector cable from The Netherlands to cover my “mystery box”. The second connector has already been sent on to a friend.

    I got super lucky. Now, on with the build. [​IMG]


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