DarkKnight
Sr Member
I am confused, I just got issues 1-4, 1 and 3 are being reissued, so is that now or later? do I have the reissues now? should I hold off on building anything?
I am confused, I just got issues 1-4, 1 and 3 are being reissued, so is that now or later? do I have the reissues now? should I hold off on building anything?
Don't leave us in suspense Tom, frack studio scale definition -------did you get one for the teamlol
lolOh goodness I laughed so hard I was glad I was not drinking anything.
It's all good and I do not mind at all. I just like making jokes.
Although this one is not one of mine I have posted just as long responses to things just as odd.
The long responses aside I actually enjoy it when you guys post pics of things Deago missed. Some I will fix and some not but it is very cool. I just don't get as upset with Deago as I know what it takes to do this and I am still amazed it is even happening.
Off to see what happens. She looks good tonight!!!!!!!
Oh no,..she just yawned. Not a good sign.
Tom
I remember when the MR Falcon came out and it was discussed in this section along with the eFx x-Wing. And those you did not even have to build. Plus many such as Guy and others had their builds of Sazlo X-Wings in this section, again kits and not exactly accurate either. I have great respect for those who want to scratch build their SS models such as Julien, but builds of kits have been done int this forum many times before by scratch builders. I realize that the Deago is not quite as accurate as one would get using kit parts but I think it is close enough even if it does not have some of the same undercuts etc., etc. So I feel it does belong in this section. Perhaps it does not have some the undercuts as the MR version but then the MR was had it's own problems and was 3% undersized was it not?
Anyway, again no disrespect to any of the longtime builders in this forum who do amazing work. I just feel that sometimes we can be too specific at defining something and the meaning of it becomes something else from its original intention.
Guy - you are another I respect. but just as I made a reference to extremes of studio scale accuracy your examples make a mockery... But I get your point. its a "desire" to build something as close to perfect as you can. I truly get that. Where I think we differ is that I can accept that a kit - even one that has errors is studio scale, while you seem determined to define it as also including the process of building it yourself from nothing to full blown glory. and Yes I agree that is the ultimate of "studio scale:".
However my personal definition is a model built to the same size and detailing as the original filming miniature.
If we are to take that definition completely literally - NOBODY has built a studio scale model and never will. there will always be some unknown piece or construction technique or pain splatter that does not match... no matter how hard we try to make it perfect. so if the ultimate is unobtainable - then we are talking matter of degrees.
is the DeAgostini falcon Studio scale - in my opinion yes... but it moves a good long way down the "coolness"/studio scale spectrum in as much as its all replicated parts etc and does not use the any of the real parts... and did not have the herculean effort involved in developing it form thin air. But in my opinion still falls into the category - as its the same size (within mm) and with most of the same detailing - and effort was made into making it look right. - unlike your cloud car analogy - which did give me a chuckle.
Don't get me wrong - I do get your point. historically only the insane even tried to be studio scale modelers... due to the passion it took to actually follow through. I have many thousands of dollars of kits sitting around that attest to the insanity required... I do get it. I guess capitalism has caught up with our "vision" and now what we used to define as studio scale is available for purchase... even flawed (minorly). Sucks but trueif we want to create a new category that is defined as a "filming replica" I'm cool with that
.this time when we coin a term we should carefully define it though so its non-ambiguous... and we should trademark it so we can sue people for using it incorrectly/without permission
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I was around when studio scale first was used... and the couple of dozen or so people that used it completely understood what it meant. I don't think any of us ever thought that anybody but us few insane folks would ever care what it meant... but go figure it caught on... and its definition then was simple..cited above... apparently we need a new category to describe the hardcore modelers that strive for insane levels perfection.
Seriously - I respect your opinion even if it just doesn't 100% jive with "MY" definition of studio scale cited above.
Jedi Dade
Don't leave us in suspense Tom, frack studio scale definition -------did you get one for the team![]()
facepalm:angry
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Nope. She is a graduate student and had to work late on a project.
Sorry,..I let Team Deago down.
Tom
I am so sorry I made a joke about how much people complain and that they will never be satisfied. I did not think it through.
Obviously I feel terrible about all the hours of your lives you wasted over the last day. While I was off playing with my kids, hanging with the incredibly hot wife, having all kinds of fun you guys spent your day on the last 2 1/2 pages.
I can't say that I read it all or even a fraction of it as I was, as mentioned, out living my life but after scanning it quickly I just feel so bad that you guys will never get that time back.
Well I am gonna go work on my super cool, awesome, Studio Scale Deagostini Millennium Falcon and then see what I can talk the wife into after the little ones go to sleep.
You guys carry on and enjoy.
So sorry again.
Tom
How are we suppose to live vicariously threw you now Tom?? HUH? LOL
Huh, and here I thought that studio scale was the thing in the bathroom that the producers in Hollywood would use to weigh the actors and actresses to see if they were the right weight for the movie
HAHAHA! No need to apologize for this. It made my day! Thanks for putting it all in prospective Tom! FYI I was was hanging out with my smoking hot wife yesterday also, and ended up getting way more out of it in the end if you know what I meanI am so sorry I made a joke about how much people complain and that they will never be satisfied. I did not think it through.
Obviously I feel terrible about all the hours of your lives you wasted over the last day. While I was off playing with my kids, hanging with the incredibly hot wife, having all kinds of fun you guys spent your day on the last 2 1/2 pages.
I can't say that I read it all or even a fraction of it as I was, as mentioned, out living my life but after scanning it quickly I just feel so bad that you guys will never get that time back.
Well I am gonna go work on my super cool, awesome, Studio Scale Deagostini Millennium Falcon and then see what I can talk the wife into after the little ones go to sleep.
You guys carry on and enjoy.
So sorry again.
Tom
HAHAHA! No need to apologize for this. It made my day! Thanks for putting it all in prospective Tom! FYI I was was hanging out with my smoking hot wife yesterday also, and ended up getting way more out of it in the end if you know what I mean![]()
Oh, boy. I'm gonna go run and hide. Or perhaps popcorn is in orderWe are talking studio scale, which boils down to size, I think. If the size matches what was produced in the studio, it is studio scale, in my opinion. Now details and construction are a whole other matter. Perhaps you want a studio accurate section.
Just a thought.
Where are you located DarkKnight? If you are in the USA or UK, as far as we know, issues 1 and 3 will not be replaced with the updated versions...If you are in France or Japan I know that they have the corrected parts from the start and do not need replacements...look at your parts and see if the plating along the top edge is flush or if it steps down like it should (it's hard to explain, but if you look thru the forum you will see examples of what I'm saying)...it is possible to order the updated parts from France, but that's more $...and some have corrected the parts themselves...overall it is not a big problem and is not going to be notice by the average viewer, so it is up to you how important it is to fix...besides that, those parts are not needed to begin building the kit, as you start with the cockpit and then move to the bottom frame and interior, and the parts that needed reissues are for the top which is quite a few weeks away for you (even those who started at the beginning haven't started the top section yet...so even if they do end up sending out replacements it will be much later...hope that helps
FYi...you will also be getting a new cockpit window replacement in issue 40 (unless your in France or Japan in which case you will have the newer cockpit parts), so don't glue the cockpit cone on (I think the instructions also say not to glue it as you need to add lighting later too)
ok, Im in the US, so i have the slightly inaccurate deck top part and an inaccurate cockpit. The French and japanese version ids better but not perfect and i will be getting a replacement cockpit window anyway, so really the only thing is the issue 1 deck and we might get a replacement in future?