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[SpineRipper]

Re: Darkside501st's Iron Man Mk VII pepakura files

Hi guys,

Just want to thank darkside501st and his team for all the hard work they have put in recreating this awesome armour set.
Im in the UK and have decided to give this build a go. Im a bit of a newb and this is my first pep project.
I have almost finished making the helmet out of carboard and its proved a bit of a mission, as cardboard is really difficult to fold!?!? However its more or less done apart from the eye sockets, as I cant work them out! haha

I've given that a bit of a break and have started on the chest, for the chest ive started using a material similar to sintra, its card on both sides and foam in the middle, and yet again its proving pretty difficult to fold, but easy to cut and very robbust.

as you can see here its looking good!

However im really concerned that (after struggling with glues) ive decided to use a LOT of celtape. Please dont hate me too much for cutting corners. My question is, will I have issues with the resin now as there is so much tape? and has anyone heard of resining sintra?

:behave

 

[DasHHat]

Re: Darkside501st's Iron Man Mk VII pepakura files

Hi guys,

Just want to thank darkside501st and his team for all the hard work they have put in recreating this awesome armour set.
Im in the UK and have decided to give this build a go. Im a bit of a newb and this is my first pep project.
I have almost finished making the helmet out of carboard and its proved a bit of a mission, as cardboard is really difficult to fold!?!? However its more or less done apart from the eye sockets, as I cant work them out! haha

I've given that a bit of a break and have started on the chest, for the chest ive started using a material similar to sintra, its card on both sides and foam in the middle, and yet again its proving pretty difficult to fold, but easy to cut and very robbust.

as you can see here its looking good!

However im really concerned that (after struggling with glues) ive decided to use a LOT of celtape. Please dont hate me too much for cutting corners. My question is, will I have issues with the resin now as there is so much tape? and has anyone heard of resining sintra?

:behave

I'm in the UK also, I've now finished building the entire upper half of the suit using the thickest paper they had available in Staples. Its 160gsm from the normal paper section. It's pretty thick, cheap, easy to fold using a hard object such as a thin metal ruler and easy to cut

I don't think resin will be very happy with the plastic selotape no :/
No idea about sintra though

Here's a link: Multicopy A4 - 160 gsm - 250 Sheets - Staples

Hope this helped

 

[SpineRipper]

Re: Darkside501st's Iron Man Mk VII pepakura files

Yeah... im on a bit of a budget so im getting all my stuff free from work haha. Also, sintra is pretty robbust and really light, which means it retains its shape really well and has a good degree of bend.

Im tempted to use cardstock then spesh if you say its cheap.

DasHHat Its good to meet someone from the UK! the materials people use in the USA seem different to the stuff available over here, its handy to have someone to discuss stuff with lol

Do you know what youre going to be using for filler? Some people have used some stuff from halfords, car body repair filler or something similar, im guessing it will need to be flexible so it doesnt crack...

I hope my polyutherane resin doesnt melt the foam either, most chemicals dont mix well with foam either

 

[DasHHat]

Re: Darkside501st's Iron Man Mk VII pepakura files

Yeah... im on a bit of a budget so im getting all my stuff free from work haha. Also, sintra is pretty robbust and really light, which means it retains its shape really well and has a good degree of bend.

Im tempted to use cardstock then spesh if you say its cheap.

DasHHat Its good to meet someone from the UK! the materials people use in the USA seem different to the stuff available over here, its handy to have someone to discuss stuff with lol

Do you know what youre going to be using for filler? Some people have used some stuff from halfords, car body repair filler or something similar, im guessing it will need to be flexible so it doesnt crack...

I hope my polyutherane resin doesnt melt the foam either, most chemicals dont mix well with foam either

Yeah, Americans just use flat weight to describe paper thickness by arbitrary amounts, very confusing initially! Haha!
I was considering halfords as well, but my first bet was eBay and buying the cheapest body filler available. you can get a good tub of it for around £10.
beware of a 'budget'; spray paint at £7 a can and we'll need about 4-5 in varying colours Resin will be around £15, fibreglass will be £5+, chicago screws, buckles, velcro, straps. It's going to break £40 easily :/ (depending on what you get free of course )

 

[Syrus54]

Re: Darkside501st's Iron Man Mk VII pepakura files

The foam i'm using is 1/8" thick roughly...

Kinda weak, so what I did was put my Cardboard template underneath it.... I wonder if anyone has made a Cardboard/Foam combo suit before.

Mabey i'll just go ahead with the thick exercise foam mats.... expensive though, means I'm gonna have to rob a bank 1st.

If You guys dont hear from me, send me a letter, C/O the Warden at the prison i'll be at. :cry

 

[ShockBlade501]

Re: Darkside501st's Iron Man Mk VII pepakura files

hey guys, i just started the body filler stage on my helmet, and i was wondering how much time are you guys getting to spread the bondo on. This is my second helmet and i still have the same container of bondo to work with, but it seems like i'm not getting enough working time out of it. i only get like 4 or 5 minutes before the bondo starts getting crumbly and unspreadable, and i've wasted a lot because of this. Also, ive been using the recommended amount of hardener until recently i started using less than recommended but i'm still having the same problem.

so, do i have a bad can of bondo or am i just not working fast enough?

 

[MonteStark]

Re: Darkside501st's Iron Man Mk VII pepakura files

I got another parts question...fingers...now im sure they are all the same...but I cant seem to find files for them...are they just such a basic shape that a file really isnt needed?

 

[Joshturismo]

Hi guys been watching this thread for awhile it is very inspiring so i had to make one haha! just want to say THANKYOU! darkside501 and the other VIPs that helped unfold the files and convert the files to foam here's my progress on the mark vii suit foam.

 

[TAZNITBR]

Re: Darkside501st's Iron Man Mk VII pepakura files

Hi guys been watching this thread for awhile it is very inspiring so i had to make one haha! just want to say THANKYOU! darkside501 and the other VIPs that helped unfold the files and convert the files to foam here's my progress on the mark vii suit foam.

Good lines, beautiful work!

 

[Joshturismo]

Good lines, beautiful work!

Thanks!

 

[MattCorneIM]

Re: Darkside501st's Iron Man Mk VII pepakura files

how are you joining the finger pieces together?

 

[itachi1]

Re: Darkside501st's Iron Man Mk VII pepakura files

Hi guys been watching this thread for awhile it is very inspiring so i had to make one haha! just want to say THANKYOU! darkside501 and the other VIPs that helped unfold the files and convert the files to foam here's my progress on the mark vii suit foam.

That is amazing, keep up the good work.

 

[itachi1]

Re: Darkside501st's Iron Man Mk VII pepakura files

Foam is infinitely easier than card stock. I spent hours and hours and hours pepping card stock files then countless hours resining, fibre glassing, body filling, sanding. I just gave up after about 6 months and threw it all away. I have since built and entire iron man and war machine in foam, total hours would equal that of 3 weeks working in spare time. Nothing would make me go back to card stock now.

Tell me about it I spent 38 hours doing my pep helmet (Yes, I'm writing done the hours I put in) and I'm working on the chest of my Mark 6 (6.5 hours so far maybe 1 more hour and I'll be done) and I'm getting faster on working with card stock and a hot glue gun but after work I work on it and I just end up really tired everyday but looking forward everyday to get my peps done so I can start the resin but I'm not quitting I really want this done with card stock, foam to me seems just too weak and won't give me the armor feel I want when I'm done.

 

[ShockBlade501]

Re: Darkside501st's Iron Man Mk VII pepakura files

I got another parts question...fingers...now im sure they are all the same...but I cant seem to find files for them...are they just such a basic shape that a file really isnt needed?

there is a link to them on the first page and right here: http://www.therpf.com/f24/zabana-s-iron-man-wip-boots-finished-76175/index8.html#post1638276 . they go with zabana's hand file

 

[darkside501st]

Re: Darkside501st's Iron Man Mk VII pepakura files

@darkside, will we have to wait for version 2 for the fixed helmet file?

Well, I could make the small changes if someone would want to go back and unfold it for me. I just don't have time to go through the whole process.

Hey Darkside we all thankyou again for all your hard work
it will be torture but well worth the wait i am sure
and great work as always

No problem, thanks for the compliment.

is there a file for the MKVII neck or will the neck from other suits fit...i was looking at pics and it looked a lil different...but then again im new to this pep foam suit building stuff...about to start my first project and just wanna make sure i got everything i need before i start...and thank you for posting these...i was having trouble DLing other files that i had found

I have not made the Mk VII neck file yet. DasHHat is correct I recommend the Mk VI neck for now... it is very similar and nobody would notice it is not the right one.

What other files were you trying to download? Where they Mk VII files?

Has anybody pepped the arms yet? I'm struggling to get everything to fit together correctly.
Darkside has said to make the bicep smaller than the usual scale. So I've made it 21, upper forearm and elbow are 23, but to make the lower forearm fit my arm and extend up to the elbow it should be 27? And the handplate width does not match the width of the lower forearm like it does in the reference model.
Should I be so picky about trying to keep the same scale factor throughout? It seems that the version 2 files are going to be more like that, where everything should fit together nicely and require little alteration once a set scale is found.
In an ideal world I'd wait for them, but I need this done by the end of July ><
any help on this scaling issue would be VERY much appreciated

Yeah, if you use the stock scales on the arms they will appear to be more bulky than the movie suit... that is my bad. The arms were the first parts I modeled and since I was going piece by piece I didn't have the rest of the suit to get the scaling right and so they are bulkier than they should be. This is one of the reasons I am modeling the whole suit before I release the version 2 files. Also, note that good reference materials were not available at the time I modeled the version 1 suit so I did not know the handplate was supposed to fit in with the forearm... that is something new to this suit. I designed it to rest on top of the forearm much like the Mk III. If you use the version 1 files you will have to modify the handplate and the forearm to get it to fit together. The forearm is made in two pieces so that it will adjust to the length of your arm. It can 'telescope' out to become longer. Also, if you do not make the upper forearm the same scale as the biceps then you will have trouble getting them to fit together. Hope that helps.

hey guys, i just started the body filler stage on my helmet, and i was wondering how much time are you guys getting to spread the bondo on. This is my second helmet and i still have the same container of bondo to work with, but it seems like i'm not getting enough working time out of it. i only get like 4 or 5 minutes before the bondo starts getting crumbly and unspreadable, and i've wasted a lot because of this. Also, ive been using the recommended amount of hardener until recently i started using less than recommended but i'm still having the same problem.

so, do i have a bad can of bondo or am i just not working fast enough?

You should do one area at a time... don't try to cover the whole piece with bondo. The setting time will depend on how much hardener you use but also depends on the temperature outside. If it is really hot then it will set pretty fast but if you don't use enough hardener then it will take a really long time to cure and in some cases it may not fully cure and then it will gum up your sandpaper. It is best to do the bondo and resin work at temps between 70 and 80 degrees so that you get the longest set time to work with it. Wake up early in the morning and get going before it gets hot.

I got another parts question...fingers...now im sure they are all the same...but I cant seem to find files for them...are they just such a basic shape that a file really isnt needed?

There are finger files... not sure if anyone has converted them to foam templates. The pepakura files are Zabana's and I linked to them in the first post.

Hi guys been watching this thread for awhile it is very inspiring so i had to make one haha! just want to say THANKYOU! darkside501 and the other VIPs that helped unfold the files and convert the files to foam here's my progress on the mark vii suit foam.

Wow, that suit looks great! Thanks for reading my thread and posting here.

how are you joining the finger pieces together?

In my pepakura gauntlet I originally glued little brass or copper tubes inside the fingers and ran some fishing line through them... it worked great and the movement was awesome. Although, after a while the tubes chewed through the fishing line so instead of having to replace the fishing line I just removed the tubes and glued the fishing line inside the fingers. This worked too but the movement doesn't look quite as mechanical as it did before.

 

[7sinzz]

The telescopic forearm you mention. Is it meant to move whilst wearing? Or is this just a handy feature to make it the correct size while building, then make it solid?

 

[darkside501st]

Re: Darkside501st's Iron Man Mk VII pepakura files

The telescopic forearm you mention. Is it meant to move whilst wearing? Or is this just a handy feature to make it the correct size while building, then make it solid?

Just a handy feature to make it fit you while building, sort of an adjustable length feature... then make it solid.

 

[7sinzz]

Thanks for clearing that up. I think the bulk on the forearms isn't going to be a problem. The biseps on the mk 6 were to bulky for me, so I cut a 2 inch wide strip out the back then glued the gap back together. You'd never know the difference, but killed the bulk completely. Foam is awesome!!!

 

[MonteStark]

Re: Darkside501st's Iron Man Mk VII pepakura files

Ok im just blind and didnt see the finger files...so I got them now...now another question...i was planning on doimg this in foam cuz its my first time doing this and it seems like its an easier way to go for a first timer...altho the hand files and the helm filesthat I have are for card paper...my question is wif I do them in paper and the rest in foam will it be a noticable differance and is it even a good idea for a first timer to do the helm in paper...i do have experiance working with bondo and fiberglass...i worked in the auto body field and used them before so those dont bother me

 

[ShockBlade501]

Re: Darkside501st's Iron Man Mk VII pepakura files

Ok im just blind and didnt see the finger files...so I got them now...now another question...i was planning on doimg this in foam cuz its my first time doing this and it seems like its an easier way to go for a first timer...altho the hand files and the helm filesthat I have are for card paper...my question is wif I do them in paper and the rest in foam will it be a noticable differance and is it even a good idea for a first timer to do the helm in paper...i do have experiance working with bondo and fiberglass...i worked in the auto body field and used them before so those dont bother me

if ya do it right, the differences should be small and nobody's gonna distinguish. personally i'd always recommend doing the helmet in cardstock for durability and detail. Although foam is always easier, i prefer a sturdy helmet if anything . But as for the hands, if your using zabana's hand files, they may be a little complex for a first timer. But if you think you can do it, then go for it, cuz zabana's hands are the best on the net.