Dark Knight Rises

You heard me! I know I will enjoy the film but I just haven't been impressed with the trailers. They just haven't given me the buzz that the trailers for the first two movies did. I blame it on Catwoman....the sight of her everytime dulls the trailer and I ain't the only one to have said so. ;)
 
I've been avoiding the trailers, because I don't want even a hint of a spoiler. (crosses fingers). I don't love how Bane looks, I don't like the "Bat" hovercopter, and I HATE Nolan's female casting choices.:lol But I didn't like the Tumbler when I first saw it either, and I'm a Batmobile freak (see the link in my sig).

I blame it on Catwoman....the sight of her everytime dulls the trailer and I ain't the only one to have said so. ;)

Agreed. I just don't buy Hathaway as Catwoman. Too "cutesy". Like that annoying T-Mobile chick they cloned from her. ........Which...BTW......they are now dressing up in leather and putting on a motorcycle- JUST LIKE CATWOMAN- to butch her up!LOL Too funny. Guess they got tired of that other phone company poking fun at her cutesy image.

My ONLY choice for Catwoman over the years, has been Rachel Blakely from "Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's The Lost World". She has the EXACT look and attitude as the 90's/2000's Catwoman. But Hollywood likes popular actors. Plus I have to remind myself, that was 10-15 years ago.......

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I'm gonna go against the majority here and say that I'm not sure I'm keen on the new trailer.
Batman Begins was on tv the other night and I hadn't seen it in ages. Watching it reminded me of the dark, run down, almost blade runner-esque tone Nolan gave Gotham in the first film. I loved that tone, to me it was what a Batman movie should be like.
I really enjoyed The Dark Knight but Nolan toned down the Gritty Gotham and went for a more generic city look.
This trailer seems to show that in Dark Knight Rises Nolen has eradicated the tone of Begins entirely. Batman seems to be fighting most of his battles in the broad daylight in some generic cityscape.
Now I love Nolans films, Inception is one of my favourite movies and I'm sure Rises will be an excellent film, but will it be an excellent 'Batman' film? I'm not so sure.
 
Well I'm not going to see Catwoman, personally I would not mind if Bane crushes her. I want to see Gordon, Bane, and Bats. In that order, and I want an epic end to Nolan's version.
 
Eh, I'll see it but I won't go in ravenous like others did, and (admittedly) myself, for The Dark Knight.

I think I am one of the few people underwhelmed by TDK; swept up in the hype (mostly for Two-Face, I wasn't too crazy for Ledger's Joker) and peer pressure and got something lesser than what I was expecting: banal and unsubtle dialogue, no atmosphere, Too-Much-Crap syndrome, muddled tone (didn't know if it wanted to be action-hero movie or straight drama), and an overall lack of fantasy considering we're talking about a man in a bat costume fight bad guys. All of which contributed to it feeling kinda boring.

To date, I've only seen the movie four times: once in the theaters, once more in IMAX (because the IMAX experience is incomparable, you could watch someone churn butter in IMAX and you'd be immersed in it), once when the dvd came out, once more when it came on televesion, and the two latter I couldn't even sit through.

BB is still the best of the two so far in my book. I like these movies but they are far from the second coming of ****** people make them out to be.


On a lighter note, I must admit, I do appreciate the nod to the 60's Catwoman costume. Hathaway can't rock it as well as Julie Newmar did but it's the thought that counts.
 
BB is still the best of the two so far in my book.

Amen!:lol

The flashbacks are the best part of Begins, and I wished TDK had been more of the same. And where the hell did the train go?? :lol

It's almost like Nolan is trying to slowly bridge the gap between the look of Tim Burton's Batman......and the "daylight/generic city" 60's TV show. Minus the camp.
 
The flashbacks are the best part of Begins, and I wished TDK had been more of the same. And where the hell did the train go?? :lol


I wondered that, too! The train system is not only missing but so is the old Wayne tower, and the slums seem to have disappeared all together! Which is a shame because in BB, even though they used real places for exterior shots and stuff, it felt like its own world. It only existed in Batman's world and he in it. In the next installment, it was just Chicago but just a little to the left so you couldn't see the Sears Tower. That took more away from the movie than I think it was meant to.
 
The train is seen in TDK in multiple city shots. The tone was intentionally different in TDK to show that things were starting to get better in the city before The Joker's reign of terror started. And for me thats one of the biggest questions in my mind right now: how will they address The Joker? I know he will not return as a character, but will they ignore him completely? Or will there be some reference to what became of him? My first instinct says leave it alone but then when you see how much this movie seems to focus on the releasing of prisoners, I'm not sure if there should be a reference or not... you know... to why Gotham's biggest and most dangerous criminal is gone.
 
Well I'm not going to see Catwoman, personally I would not mind if Bane crushes her. I want to see Gordon, Bane, and Bats. In that order, and I want an epic end to Nolan's version.

Well, I'm looking forward to seeing Catwoman in this film who won't be a zombie or a... whatever that thing was that Halle Berry played.

Also, I've had enough of everyone's snide views on Anne Hathaway's Catwoman. She might actually turn out to be good. I think you're just annoyed that this movie might actually involve a female character who will amount to something other than being Bruce's emotional anchor. Freaking sausage fest lovers.

:angry
 
The train is seen in TDK in multiple city shots. The tone was intentionally different in TDK to show that things were starting to get better in the city before The Joker's reign of terror started. And for me thats one of the biggest questions in my mind right now: how will they address The Joker? I know he will not return as a character, but will they ignore him completely? Or will there be some reference to what became of him? My first instinct says leave it alone but then when you see how much this movie seems to focus on the releasing of prisoners, I'm not sure if there should be a reference or not... you know... to why Gotham's biggest and most dangerous criminal is gone.


I read in a report awhile ago, the filmakers were thinking of using CG manipulated deleted footage of Ledger to be inserted into the third movie. Whether or not that is true remains to be seen. I do know, however, that there was a part in the script that seems to be tailor made for Ledger's Joker but was altered to have another villain in place due to, well, him being dead.
 
I heard the same rumors, and, honestly, I very strongly dont see that being Nolan's style. He doesnt want to do more with The Joker - he sees it as Ledger's (at least that version of him) and would let it just die with the actor. I think the only reason The Joker will return (and if he does, I am certain it will be in name only) is for continuity's sake. Remember that when Ledger was still alive, Nolan already had a storyline in mind for the third film and said The Joker would still be the main villain. I am sure little to none of that storyline still exists in the script we now have.
 
Well, I'm looking forward to seeing Catwoman in this film who won't be a zombie or a... whatever that thing was that Halle Berry played.

Also, I've had enough of everyone's snide views on Anne Hathaway's Catwoman. She might actually turn out to be good. I think you're just annoyed that this movie might actually involve a female character who will amount to something other than being Bruce's emotional anchor. Freaking sausage fest lovers.

:angry

Sigh. Come on now, she looks like a character in Spy Kids.
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Somewhere Larry Young is saying to himself, I bet Jeyl is bitching about a woman's film role not being strong enough or respected enough:lol

Oh, and I'm sure despite her silly Spy Kids outfit and ears, she will act just like a good little Cat Woman. Hopefully she will have a scene where she is baking Bane some biscuits, and cleaning the dishes.


J/k


Maybe



Maybe not


;)
 
Somewhere Larry Young is saying to himself, I bet Jeyl is bitching about a woman's film role not being strong enough or respected enough

Yes. Bring up the man who refused to see the difference between making fun of an evil dictator and killing innocents at death camps.

Oh, and I'm sure despite her silly Spy Kids outfit and ears, she will act just like a good little Cat Woman. Hopefully she will have a scene where she is baking Bane some biscuits, and cleaning the dishes.

It's easy for you to forget that Nolan is behind this movie, isn't it?
 
Oh Jeyl, you really need to get out into the daylight more. I'm really not going to bother saying anything else, other than to let you know that you do have my pity.
 
I was checking the IMDb. Before I left the main page, they displayed a bit of trivia for TDKR. According to the trivia bit, Anne Hathaway thought she was auditioning for the role of Harley Quinn when she was called in for a casting call. It was afterwards she was told by Nolan that she was auditioning for Catwoman. God, the only thing worse than Anne Hathaway as Catwoman is the idea of Anne Hathaway as Harley.
 
I just think it's funny how when it comes to the subject of a Christopher Nolan batman movie and Anne Hathaway playing Catwoman, everyone treats it like the two are entirely different things. Everyone has faith in Christopher Nolan in bringing Batman and everyone else to life in the movie, except for her. It's like everyone has forgotten that this was Nolan's call. He's the director, he wanted Anne Hathaway for the role, and this is how he wanted her to look like. But no one says that, they just say that Anne herself isn't right like it's her fault. No one is pointing fingers at Nolan here.
 
I just think it's funny how when it comes to the subject of a Christopher Nolan batman movie and Anne Hathaway playing Catwoman, everyone treats it like the two are entirely different things. Everyone has faith in Christopher Nolan in bringing Batman and everyone else to life in the movie, except for her. It's like everyone has forgotten that this was Nolan's call. He's the director, he wanted Anne Hathaway for the role, and this is how he wanted her to look like. But no one says that, they just say that Anne herself isn't right like it's her fault. No one is pointing fingers at Nolan here.

Actually, I had little faith in Nolan's Batman movies after seeing the first one. The only thing that he seemed to do any good on, at least to me, was how he presented the Joker (and even that was barely good, especially with the small amount of time that the Joker was on screen).
 
Actually, I had little faith in Nolan's Batman movies after seeing the first one. The only thing that he seemed to do any good on, at least to me, was how he presented the Joker (and even that was barely good, especially with the small amount of time that the Joker was on screen).

Then you clearly miss all of the themes that Nolan has brilliantly highlighted in his films.

Anyone questioning whether Nolan's films are "Batman" films might consider looking into these themes. Batman Begins deals brilliantly with the concept of motivation. What motivates a human being to do extraordinary things? It also explores Bruce's search for a father figure.

The Dark Knight is a little weaker in story-telling but very heavy in themes. How does the world respond to such behavior. In what ways is the Joker Batman's foil. Who are true heros?

The Dark Knight Rises appears to focus on themes of sacrifice and changing of the guard. I see the choice to skip almost a decade ahead in time as a step toward a new man under the mask. In the trailer all of the old players are exhausted. They are spent. Now they have new, younger foes that they may not be able to handle.

I believe in your right to an opinion but I do not think some of you have a very objective way of looking at this.
 
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