CLONE WARS weekly discussion thread

[Timmythekid]

Yep, you are No, of course not. And if that's how you're feeling, sounds like you're going to HATE where the show is going. Maul isn't dissappearing any time soon it sounds like. I actually am starting to like the various potential dynamics this arc has set up for the rest of the series. Maul and Oppress hate Dooku, Maul hates Sidious and the Jedi, the nightsisters hate Dooku and the Jedi, Sidious suddenly has to deal with a massive threat from a former, well trained apprentice, Dooku has to feel threatened by the return of the former apprentice, Ventress hates Dooku and pissed off Boba, Deathwatch hates everybody, Bane is rotting in jail but now has a personal reason to hate the Jedi...there's an almost unlimited number of temporary and previously unlikley alliances on the board after this arc finishes.

 

[NakedMoleRat]

I still don't get it. Can someone explain why Savage cares so much about Maul, but slayed his other brother Feral without so much as a second thought!

Edit: After thinking about it, being overcome with the dark side is what drove him to both. To kill Feral, who was not from the dark side, as well as to find Maul, who was. That's a simple explanation, but all I have time for right now...

 

[Bryancd]

It's a talking cartoon worm and you're disappointed in its name? :lol

You all totally missed the inside joke on that..
family guy return of the jedi - YouTube

 

[Eopie Herder]

I enjoyed the Episode quite a bit! I think they made Maul look more like Ray Park than any of the other characters resemble their real life counterparts.

On a side note, with the Vintage Collection "realistic" version Anakin Clone Wars figure card shown yesterday, anyone else think half the reason Ashley Eckstein dressed up as Ahsoka was for her card?

 

[MClass]

Still not a fan of Maul's return or his stupid chicken legs. Looks like an AT-ST below the waist.

 

[Timmythekid]

Shhhh...next seasons's cliff-hanger ending involves the other half of Maul grafted to the top half of an AT-ST, so SPOILERS!!!!! Okay?

Some great stuff in this episode. Right up until the end. Loved Maul's design, loved that his fighting style is clearly based on the TPM fight, just with some brute friggin' force kicks that his cyber-legs allow him now.

So, some issues...

Really? The good guys run away and we end on that total 'thud' of a last line from Maul? Huh. Well, that should have carried more impact and built excitement for next year. Maul saying in essence "Man, am I going to do....something..." was weak.


Ventress was annoying. When did she become quippy? I've never been a massive fan of hers, but she's getting detestable.

Yet again this season Kenobi got his butt handed to him. Starting to see why he's the 'negotiator' - because he's essentially useless in a fight.

And speaking of Kenobi - really, 10 years later his anger is just bubbling under the surface and all Maul has to do is mention Qui Gon and he goes nuts?

Why oh why didn't Maul just kill ObiWan when he and Savage beat him the first round? Real cartoon supervillain monologuing moment there. Maybe he wanted to torture him, but if so why not start right away with the cutting and the "suffer like I suffered"?

Loved the line about the Clone Wars starting without him, but then Wittweir has to go and ruin it all by saying in an interview yesterday that Maul doesn't focus his anger towards Sidious. WHAT!? He trained the guy to be his successor, then left him for dead just as much as Obi Wan did. If Sidious could sense Anakin was in danger from across the galaxy (and, incidentally, when he was actually winning) surely he would have known Maul was alive. I was so looking forward to Sidious having to put Maul down for good in case he spills the beans.

Kenobi's comment about cutting him off at the neck would have read better as a defiant, flippant line if it had been "at the mouth.". Just sayin' that was a bit of a wasted moment.

 

[terryr]

Still not a fan of Maul's return or his stupid chicken legs. Looks like an AT-ST below the waist.

Strange that parts were used from droids and yet ended up looking like Grievous junior.

And he can barely walk yet goes after Kenobi, then at the end says 'meh, let's wait a while'.

 

[cayman shen]

Booooooiiiiinnnnnnnggggggg! Bring on Season 5 baby!

 

[DL 44 Blaster]

So the two part ending was just kind of "eh". Some things about it I like for sure, but overall, just not my cup of tea.

 

[Sluis Van Shipyards]

Boooo!

I agree that they didn't do this right. Obi Wan is a master by now, I doubt he could be tricked into getting angry like that. I also don't know why they act like Obi Wan can't fight every time they have him fight. He gets his butt handed to him. Maul doesn't seem like someone who would pull punches so I don't know why he wouldn't just kill him if he had the chance.

 

[Timmythekid]

Strange that parts were used from droids and yet ended up looking like Grievous junior.

And he can barely walk yet goes after Kenobi, then at the end says 'meh, let's wait a while'.

My 3 year old caught that; 'Dada, is that Gerewuhl Gweevus?'. That might have been interesting if Maul's resurrection had happened prior to Grevious being rebuilt.


So yeah, last week was "meh", this week was "eh".

 

[Eopie Herder]

Strange that parts were used from droids and yet ended up looking like Grievous junior.

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My 3 year old caught that; 'Dada, is that Gerewuhl Gweevus?'. That might have been interesting if Maul's resurrection had happened prior to Grevious being rebuilt.

Well, they did have that design before Grievous. One of the designers at Lucasfilm came up with that design for Maul as the villain in ROTS before it was settled on it being what ended up being Grievous. So I think the took some of the design style from Maul's legs to use on him.

 

[cayman shen]

I always wondered about Kenobi getting his butt kicked so much: CW often ignores that the characters have the force when it's dramatically convenient for them to get whaled on. But I totally buy Maul letting him live: he wanted to torture him slowly, not just execute him. He can be patient and do it right.

I would have liked a more medical and less magical leg-switch sequence (Mother T doing it had kind of a Sorcerer's Apprentice vibe for me), but that's a pretty small gripe from me, and in a way it makes sense, since dark magic must be keeping this guy alive! Either that, or Maul's species doesn't keep their guts in the same place we do (which would explain his survival of the bisection: in a human, no chance, but maybe his guts are carried higher?!)

 

[James Kenobi 1138]

I think the inside of Darth Maul is filled with Chuck Norris.

 

[terryr]

... Either that, or Maul's species doesn't keep their guts in the same place we do (which would explain his survival of the bisection: in a human, no chance, but maybe his guts are carried higher?!)

He must keep his Testosterone someplace else as well. He still seems mighty aggressive without his junk.

The cut would have been cauterized, but that's a big hole left open. But then they could say he used the Force to keep himself together.

 

[cayman shen]

Basically, Maul's so cool I'm willing to listen to just about any nonsense to explain why he's alive. Two episodes of him and he's already more interesting by far than the cipher we saw in TPM. Heck, I put up with bogus resurrections of Jason Voorhees every two years or so back in the eighties. I can put up with this.

 

[Sluis Van Shipyards]

I would have liked a more medical and less magical leg-switch sequence (Mother T doing it had kind of a Sorcerer's Apprentice vibe for me), but that's a pretty small gripe from me, and in a way it makes sense, since dark magic must be keeping this guy alive! Either that, or Maul's species doesn't keep their guts in the same place we do (which would explain his survival of the bisection: in a human, no chance, but maybe his guts are carried higher?!)

Depending on how Lucas chooses to butcher the EU, the Nightsisters in the novels are just using the Force, though they think it's magic and perform it as such. They don't know it's the Force, but think it really is magic. They know some things different from the Sith or Jedi, but it's still the Force, not magic. As for the leg switch, keep in mind that the Jedi and Sith use the Force to construct their lightsabers, so using the Force to alter mechanical things isn't that farfetched.

 

[cayman shen]

Yeah, I've read all the EU, and was using "magic" and "the force" interchangeably. I just think it would have been more dramatic and aesthetically pleasing to see more of a ROTS Vader scene than the magic scene we got. But your mileage may vary. I'm not complaining about the episode at all. I loved the last two: the talking snake, Spider Maul, "enemy of my enemy," the works.

 

[Eopie Herder]

Heck, I put up with bogus resurrections of Jason Voorhees every two years or so back in the eighties. I can put up with this.

:thumbsup

 

[INDY]

I am not a fan of this new maul design. I wish that had given him more real looking legs and feet. Kind of like the lower half of a terminator.