Casting/Recasting question.

[glim999]

Ok, here's the deal. I just sold a GDO from Stargate in the Junkyard. I was only selling the one but I got a LOT of interest in it. Earlier this year I bought 3 incomplete kits and the mould from a former RPF member. I've moved three times since then. Since there was so much interest in the GDO, I went into storage looking for the mould. Dunno which move it happened in but the mould got destroyed. It's in five chunks and is sticky as hell. I did find my other GDO.

Now, here's my question. Since I purchased the mould, that gave me the right to use it. Right? Since the mould is no longer usuable would it be taboo to make a mould from my extra GDO? It came from the same mould.

I just don't want to do anything improper but I feel like since I paid for the mould then I have some right. What is the general opinion on this?

 

[SiR-ROUND]

To me, selling a mould (legal) is like parting with all copyrights of the maker...

 

[JoeR]

<div class='quotetop'>(SiR-ROUND @ Oct 30 2006, 07:38 PM) [snapback]1347563[/snapback]</div>

To me, selling a mould (legal) is like parting with all copyrights of the maker...
[/b]

Agreed.

Why else would he sell you the mould other than to give you the chance to produce more? Can't you just ask the seller anyway?

 

[Roger Ramjet]

Provided that the mold or molds in question belonged to the individuals to begin with all is well, but I have known of situations where the mold were either stolen or sold without the creator's knowledge, I guess that would be another issue entirely.

Roger

 

[vaderdarth]

You are very polite to inquire about this. I wish more people would do that. However, if you purchased a mould........you more or less purchased the right to reproduce the pieces as you see fit. The only exception to this situation is if you signed an agreement to only make copies for personal use and not reselling. If you made no such agreement.....you are free and clear. At least that is my opinion.

Dave

 

[Too Much Garlic]

Well, as Vaderdarth and the others said, you are free to do what you want as you bought the molds... unless an agreement was made. Though, it also depends on what you want to do with the mold, but I guess you plan to make casts to sell, right? Well... asking this question clearly shows you have honorable intentions... and you could always contact the seller about it... but seriously: if no agreement about no casts to be made or sold was made when you bought it, I'd really assume seller has freely passed on all rights to you.

Any pictures of this GDO thing you are planning to make new molds from? - simply out of interest as I have no clue what it is, but know of the movie.

 

[glim999]

There was no sort of agreement. It was simply "do you want the mould too?" and I said sure.

So, making a new mould from my other GDO would be okay? Just want to be sure. Last thing I want is to be called a recaster :unsure

NoHumorMan, here's the one I sold recently, the other one is the same

 

[micdavis]

You actually have no "right" to produce them period. Unless you are a licensee of the franchise. Don't kid yourself.

Make them if you like but don't think having the mold gives you any kind of real rights.

At the very least find another choice of words for your thievery of intellectual property.

 

[glim999]

<div class='quotetop'>(micdavis @ Oct 30 2006, 05:17 PM) [snapback]1347649[/snapback]</div>

You actually have no "right" to produce them period. Unless you are a licensee of the franchise. Don't kid yourself.

Make them if you like but don't think having the mold gives you any kind of real rights.
[/b]

Um...I feel like you're attacking me and I don't know why. I wasn't saying I had any legal right. I was talking about rights as the exsist in our hobby. Meaning, if I made some, yes, MGM or whoever it is that own Stargate could slap me with a C&D but would the RPF label me a recaster?


<div class='quotetop'>(micdavis @ Oct 30 2006, 05:17 PM) [snapback]1347649[/snapback]</div>

At the very least find another choice of words for your thievery of intellectual property.
[/b]

That's insulting. No two ways about it. Are you saying that everything that you own is official, liscensed props? If not why are you judging me for thinking about helping out a few fellow collectors?

Jeez

 

[micdavis]

Well you were asking for opinions about your rights? Weren't you?

Not really attacking, just answering. The truth can be harsh.

Be insulted, it was true. So it okay to be a thief in the real world but as long as it is just hobby, you need someone's approval.

Well, I do apologize. Sorry when I see these threads about percieved rights I go a bit nuts from the obsurdity.

Again sorry.

 

[DrStranglove]

A nicer way for Mic to say it would have been like this:


"Since you bought the mold too, it would not be seen as recasting by at least 99% of the RPF.

But just because you have the mold does not mean you are "safe" from legal action by the actual copy right holder."


Oh and what is a GDO anyway?

 

[micdavis]

Oh.....are we being nice this week......I didn't get the memo.

 

[glim999]

Micdavis- I'm not gonna argue with you. Everyone has their own opinion

DrStranglove- a GDO is a what they use on Stargate:SG1 to open the iris on the gate. GDO = Garage door opener :lol

 

[SgtFang]

<div class='quotetop'>(DrStranglove @ Oct 30 2006, 06:09 PM) [snapback]1347679[/snapback]</div>

Oh and what is a GDO anyway?
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It's from "Stargate: SG-1". It's a little doodad you wear on your wrist that sends an identification signal through subspace, and tells them to open the "iris" on the gate back on Earth, so you don't rematerialize in the 3 micron space between the gate's event horizon and the iris.

Hey Glim, if you have any reservations about molding that GDO, sell it to me- I'd say it's free and clear. (except for that whole pesky MGM business that is...)

-Sarge

 

[Rodann]

Is this CT.net? Somebody got yelled at for asking a seemingly innocent question and it wasn't ME? :lol

Hey, at least newer guys than you, aren't accusing you of being a noob.

Glim, good for you for asking the question among your peers. People recast every day, they just don't usually ask for permission first. Even if they have the molds, which is rare.

Though, to avoid legal issues, you may want to think about being more vague next time. Ask a hypothetical question about someone having the molds, etc.

 

[atacpdx]

<div class='quotetop'>(micdavis @ Oct 30 2006, 11:03 PM) [snapback]1347672[/snapback]</div>

Well you were asking for opinions about your rights? Weren't you?

Not really attacking, just answering. The truth can be harsh.

Be insulted, it was true. So it okay to be a thief in the real world but as long as it is just hobby, you need someone's approval.

Well, I do apologize. Sorry when I see these threads about percieved rights I go a bit nuts from the obsurdity.

Again sorry.
[/b]

Wow. What a sanctimonious, spume filled rant. You make illegal replicas yourself there Mickey boy.... So was that rant due to your own Intellectual property stealing guilty conscience spilling over? Do us a favor and get back on your hormones so we don't all have to endure your mood swings :$

 

[glim999]

<div class='quotetop'>(Rodann @ Oct 30 2006, 07:43 PM) [snapback]1347753[/snapback]</div>

Though, to avoid legal issues, you may want to think about being more vague next time. Ask a hypothetical question about someone having the molds, etc.
[/b]

See, I don't know these things :lol That's why I should stick to buying props and not trying to offer any :lol

 

[SgtFang]

<div class='quotetop'>(glim999 @ Oct 30 2006, 08:54 PM) [snapback]1347797[/snapback]</div>

<div class='quotetop'>(Rodann @ Oct 30 2006, 07:43 PM) [snapback]1347753[/snapback]

Though, to avoid legal issues, you may want to think about being more vague next time. Ask a hypothetical question about someone having the molds, etc.
[/b]

See, I don't know these things :lol That's why I should stick to buying props and not trying to offer any :lol
[/b][/quote]

I've got silicone and resin...

-Sarge

 

[ioncanon]

Cryptic imports sold me a han solo in carb side panel mold....When it wore down and I still had orders, I made a copy mold with the master copy I made beforehand. I've since done that 4 times to finish appropriate orders.

I see no problem

 

[glim999]

PM'd ya Sarge