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E.D.C. Studios wrote:<HR></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS=$row_color>Well hell....I never really thought it was a king sol to begin with, but that aside, I have to argue that brass screw theory (I see no definition of a slot of any kind there, it looks more like a rivet head with a washer under it, or perhaps something similar to one of those Obi Wan transistors. Do we even know if there is a lever present at all?
As for the wires, look at the B&W pic VERY carefully, it does appear that it look like a black and white wire next to each other. However I again have to argue Paul's theory that they added this little bit of detail when they overhauled it.
Paul, you have to relax a bit there buddy
You have a tendency to turn what you hypothesize into concrete fact in record time.
Always keep in mind we once thought the earth was flat until IREFUTABLE evidence proved otherwise
BTW - keep in mind that in B&W red photo graphs as black most of the time, so its quite possible if they are wires we are seeing a red and whit wire there.</TD></TR><TR><TD><HR></TD></TR></TABLE><SPAN CLASS=$row_color>
LOL
! Yeah, ain't that the truth, that combined with me posting at 1AM when I've been up since 7AM only adds to my delierium!
OK, time to take a DEEEEEEEP breath and review every thing.
Lets put aside arguments of what those things are and determine whether on not these sabers are all one and the same. If you look at the pics in my above post you can see the red bit in the "B" slot, now look at the Carbon freeze shot, the edge of the suposed button closes to Vaders capes apears to be red and is located right were the "B" port should be. You can also see some of the red wire in the Black and white photo (albeit looking gey for obvious reasons
). The black and white wire (It thinkmyour right on that KL) does show up in all three pics though it is a little harder to make out the details on the CF pic, there is definietly something there and it's in the same place as the B&W wire in the other two pics. Another great little detail that caries through two of the photos, is the little spot where the MPP logo plate was atatched (it almost looks like they put a nail or pin in the hole since they show up as highlighted areas instead of dark spot like on the ANH saber), you can see it in both the CF pi and the B&W pic. I zoomed in on the PoSW pic to see if it was there on that pic and there is s slight light spot (just barely) where the hole would be, unfortunatly due to the resolution of that pic that detail is kinda lost in the pixlation. The Brass fiting in the clamp is visible in both the PoSW pic and the B&W pic and it apears to be there in the "Photopoint" pic posted in an earlier relpy. Last is the little screw under the shroud that holds the MPP's guts in. It's visible in the CF pic and the B&W pic, again due to the resolution of the PoSW pic the detail isn't visible, though there is a hint of an object there. With all the above matching pieces you get enough overlap to make a good argument that these are all the same saber. Granted some details are inconclusive in one pic or another but the way they match up would lead me to beieve they're all the same saber.
Detail-----PoSW--CF pic--B&W pic
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"Red bit"---Yes----Yes-----Yes
B&W wire---Yes-----?------Yes
rivet hole---?-----Yes-----Yes
Brass bit---Yes-----?------Yes
in clamp
Screw under-?-----Yes-----Yes
shroud
Chip, I am starting to agree with you about the brass fiting in the clamp, there's no sign of a slot on the top in the B&W photo. Could it be a dead bolt of some kind? I'm also wondering if that's a washer under it or if the head is shaped like a Dough-boy helmet, basicaly flat with a dome in the middle, the reason I'm wondering is because the whole thing looks to be brass, not just the round part and there doesn't seem to be a defined line around the dome part. Granted it couls still be a screw, but I'm not sure any more. When they fixed the ANH they could have very easily used a screw but they didn't making me wonder if the threads might have been stripped. If you assume the ESB saber used the same Flash and that the threads were stripped they would have had to use something non-threading to atach the two sides. Hmmm.
Man looking at my above post I really gotta stop posting so late "King of the Vader ESB Saber"?
Oy.
~Paul
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