Captain America: The Winter Soldier (Pre-release)

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The cast of Captain America: The Winter Soldier

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EricVespe: Johannson says Natasha is an integral part of Winter Soldier, Feige goes so far as to say it's pretty much her and Cap's movie.

devincf: WINTER SOLDIER has Cap navigating a morally murky world. #SDCC

EricVespe: Almost everything out of Nick Fury's mouth is a lie. Sometimes he has to figure out if he's lying to himself, too." - Sam Jackson

devincf: Feige says Winter Soldier's identity isn't a twist, but it's a reveal to Cap. #SDCC

ErikDavis: Mackie: "I got wings and guns ... and we just hand out business for 2 hours. That's what we do in Cap 2!"



Silas Lesnick: We open in an elevator. Cap is inside, looking out the glass window. I think we're in DC.

Silas Lesnick: We see him from behind. He's got the shield on his back like a backpack.

Silas Lesnick: He turns as more people (Frank Grillo among them) get on.

ComingSoon.net: Marvel just said this footage will not be online, it is only for Hall H. So Silas, take your time describing it fully.

Silas Lesnick: His uniform is new. It looks a lot like the US Agent costume.

Silas Lesnick: The music is moody, like The Hunt For Red October.

Silas Lesnick: Cap looks Grillo up and down. He senses something isn't right.

Silas Lesnick: More people get on. Cap keeps looking at them. He notices many of them are armed.

Silas Lesnick: More and more get on with each floor. The elevator is packed.



devincf: WINTER SOLDIER footage is fantastic. Opened w/ extended sequence of Cap fighting 9 guys in an elevator. Terrific action.

ErikDavis: CAP 2 footage opened with an AWESOME elevator fight where like 20 guys try to take out Cap. Like DIE HARD 3 elevator fight times 50 #SDCC

EricVespe: There's a great elevator fight where Cap realizes all the guys on his team are about to turn on him.

adamchitwood: CAP 2 footage teased a contained, Washington DC thriller. Opened with an action sequence in an elevator with Cap vs. 7 other guys. #sdcc

EricVespe: Overall, the tone seems darker and more ambiguous. SHIELD is doing preemptive strikes, Cap doesn't like it. "That's not freedom, it's fear."

devincf: "This isn't freedom, it's fear." - Cap to Nick Fury, unhappy with how SHIELD does pre-emptive strikes. #SDCC

ErikDavis :Full CAP 2 trailer was a bit all over the place. Lots of running, fighting; felt like a angry action-thriller.

EricVespe: Falcon's hero moment: A jet charges on him on deck of helicarrior, he fires at it, takes backwards dive off the side, wings deploy

devincf: Clip ended with Helicarrier exploding and crashing in a river. #SDCC

ErikDavis: Last shot of CAP 2 trailer was a slow pan up to Winter Soldier picking Cap's shield out of the ground after wreaking havoc
 
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I wonder how many iterations of shield coloring there will be in this film? We've seen the version on the poster, the Comic Con all blue tone version, and I assume we'll get the standard RW&B as well.
 
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Chris Evans On 'Captain America: The Winter Soldier'

"Now that he has the tools to fight the good fight, whose side is he fighting for?" Evans asked. "I think in the '40s it was a lot easier to say, `We know Nazis are bad.' I think it's a bit harder to know who's right and who's wrong today. I think that conflict that Steve's going through in the movie couldn't be more updated and more modern. What's right? Where's the line? Where do you draw it? It's so tricky, I wish I could tell you more."

"Samuel L. Jackson says his character, SHIELD director Nick Fury, tries to help Cap come to grips with the 21st century as they work to unravel the mystery around The Winter Soldier. In the comic, the character is Cap's former sidekick who becomes a sleeper agent for the enemy. In the past, how the hero dealt with an enemy would be cut and dried, but not today."

"Now he's got to understand that the enemy's not black and white anymore," Jackson said. "It's not that guy over there and us over here. It's kind of gray. Some of those guys that were enemies before are now our allies in a kind of way. So you've got to wrap your head around that."

Kevin Feige, president of Marvel Studios and the film's producer, says fans looking for clues to the new The Avengers sequel should not miss the Captain America sequel.

The film, "much more than Iron Man 3 or Thor: The Dark World, is connected and the linchpin between Avengers 1 and Avengers 2," he said. "The events of Avengers play directly into the events of Winter Soldier, primarily in the fact that Cap is now in the modern day working with SHIELD, working with Nick Fury, working with Black Widow in a very good way. And the events of that movie will have a direct repercussion on the events of Avengers 2."
 
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Everyone in the Marvel Universe is an amazing fighter. For some reason, this feels off... kinda like how Coulson was super hero amazing in the Thor's Hammer One Shot...
 
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A few additional shots from Facebook of the modified TFA suit. The belt has been altered, button straps added near the buckle and the pouches look slightly different. Also the side angle shot shows the pants have a bit more contrast in the fabric than before, though hard to say if that's just lighting or weathering. I've seen the movie TFA suit in person and I recall the pants was pretty monotone; these new ones look like they have some dark blue lining around the hips and knees. The helmet decals also look silver now instead of faded white.

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Please excuse any formatting errors. This is my first attempt to post a message with a photo. Hope it comes out OK.

I'm happy to see at least a hint of the red leg-stripe on the new adaptation of the Commander Steve Rogers Super Soldier costume, but I do not like the S.H.I.E.L.D. logo on the shoulder in place of the white star. If they're going to use the logo, go with the simple version, and make it big enough, like the star was that this replaces. This logo is just too small and fussy. And I'm sorry to say, regarding this revised helmet, that I'm not liking what I guess to be carbon fiber sections on the side of the helmet and under the eye-openings, especially since they appear to come at the expense of the helmet wing emblems. I do like the exposed ears at last, but why, when they fix one thing, do they have to screw up three more?

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I'd love to read an interview with Costume Designer Judianna Makovsky to find out her approach and thinking in designing and redesigning, Cap's uniforms. I'd also love to see design sketches. Is there any reason anymore now to keep them secret?

James

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Hmmm, that photo came out really small, but you can click on it to see it somewhat bigger. My original was quite a bit larger. J.

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Ahhh, I see. If you double click the little photo you'll see it full size. J.
 
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The SHIELD logo kind of makes sense if Cap is officially working for them. And maybe Cap will comment about how he doesn't like wearing their symbol like he's their property.
 
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Sounding more and more like the MCU Captain Rogers uniform was designed with stealth missions in mind, and I think that may also be why the shield isn't in the traditional bright colors. Having the SHIELD logo on the uniform does make sense given the poorly kept secret of Cap changing uniforms to the older TFA style in order to disassociate himself from SHIELD later in the movie. It would also make sense for the costume designers to abandon a lot of the traditional Cap elements in the new suit. Put it this way - if the new suit looked pretty similar to the traditional Cap suit, and he switches back to the TFA suit, it's not as dramatic a visual statement.
 
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Put it this way - if the new suit looked pretty similar to the traditional Cap suit, and he switches back to the TFA suit, it's not as dramatic a visual statement.

And you KNOW that the people in the theater will cheer and clap when he dons the TFA suit...
 
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I don't think they are gonna go into using the suits as the schtick to visualize the whole distrust thing. I am calling it, Cap has to put the old TFA suit back in action to try and give Bucky something to bring back his memory.

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I don't think they are gonna go into using the suits as the schtick to visualize the whole distrust thing. I am calling it, Cap has to put the old TFA suit back in action to try and give Bucky something to bring back his memory.

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Seems very likely to me. Or at least out of a sense that it's fitting.
 
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I don't think they are gonna go into using the suits as the schtick to visualize the whole distrust thing. I am calling it, Cap has to put the old TFA suit back in action to try and give Bucky something to bring back his memory.

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I believe someone mentioned that he breaks in the smithsonian where the suit is on display and steals it/ takes it back
 
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On the um, TFA suit his holster is gone and it looks like every element has changed. Even the pattern and construction of the shoulders is different.
On a positive note hope UD replica makes the new TFA suit.

How are they going to explain the changes?... time travel, a shift in reality or just an unused prototype.
The suit didn't change in the Avengers flash backs and we know what the Cap was wearing when he was frozen.

I can understand the coloring on the shield being scuffed, scratched and worn from use but, as said before, not the addition of a circle on the star so this makes me wonder if the backside of the shield has changed too.

If the story supports the changes, great but have a feeling it is to sell toys.
 
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Does anyone know if these are stock gloves? Or, assuming they're not scratch-built custom gloves, does anyone know what gloves were modified to make these? They look like Oakley gloves in general.

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Thanks!

James
 
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Sorry if this has been posted here before. This is the best view I've seen on-line of the new helmet design. I like the return to the "TFA" style, but not of the changes to it, except for the "open ear" feature. But the carbon fiber panels hurt the look, and reduce the wing design to just a bar or a slit.

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James
 
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How are they going to explain the changes?... time travel, a shift in reality or just an unused prototype.
The suit didn't change in the Avengers flash backs and we know what the Cap was wearing when he was frozen.

I'd guess that 99.95% of people watching the movie won't notice the differences at all. They'll just say "Oh, he's wearing his suit from the first movie!" because it looks close enough.
 
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I don't think they are gonna go into using the suits as the schtick to visualize the whole distrust thing. I am calling it, Cap has to put the old TFA suit back in action to try and give Bucky something to bring back his memory.

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Why not both reasons? :) All indications point to Cap disassociating himself from SHIELD in this movie, AND he'll probably need to snap Winter Soldier out of it. Wearing his old suit accomplishes both.

On the um, TFA suit his holster is gone and it looks like every element has changed. Even the pattern and construction of the shoulders is different.
On a positive note hope UD replica makes the new TFA suit.

How are they going to explain the changes?... time travel, a shift in reality or just an unused prototype.
The suit didn't change in the Avengers flash backs and we know what the Cap was wearing when he was frozen.

I can understand the coloring on the shield being scuffed, scratched and worn from use but, as said before, not the addition of a circle on the star so this makes me wonder if the backside of the shield has changed too.

If the story supports the changes, great but have a feeling it is to sell toys.

I wouldn't count on UD making this version, they no longer carry the Marvel license and their pipeline is pretty busy with their current licenses.

I doubt they'll also explain the changes to the TFA suit in the movie, to the layman it'll probably look the same. His original TFA suit was probably damaged beyond repair after having been put in ice for so many decades. This version could either be a reproduction or unused prototype - I'm leaning towards reproduction since this suit looks a bit more modern in certain areas and looks more patriotic and symbolic, works better for a museum display piece.

And obviously yeah, they're doing this to sell more damn toys ;)
 
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Made a side by side for fun-

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