Can I recast an AA Helmet ?

[kurtyboy]

Like I said 'Correct me if I'm wrong'. This was about four years ago and I didn't take notes :confused

Originally posted by zorg+Mar 29 2006, 04:53 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(zorg @ Mar 29 2006, 04:53 PM)</div>

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@Mar 29 2006, 03:57 PM


which itself came from a run of only ten castings made from a screen used helmet.

and the story changes again :rolleyes

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[AnsonJames]

Originally posted by zorg+Mar 29 2006, 05:55 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(zorg @ Mar 29 2006, 05:55 PM)</div>

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@Mar 29 2006, 03:36 PM

Still no answer on the C3PO heads then?

lets just call it a "mystery helmet"


annoying isnt it :lol

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No. Not really.

 

[AnsonJames]

Originally posted by BingoBongo275+Mar 29 2006, 05:13 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(BingoBongo275 @ Mar 29 2006, 05:13 PM)</div>

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@Mar 29 2006, 03:43 PM
Shame he was lying through his teeth about most of what he did then, eh?

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Still no answer on who your mate recast the TIE helmet off then? :lol

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You should check out this site;

http://www.vivalarepartee.com/welcometovivalarepartee.shtml

I think you need some serious help with your retorts :lol

 

[morpheus13]

Originally posted by kurtyboy@Mar 29 2006, 03:57 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong but this is what I recall about the Zorg 3p0 heads.

They were recast from one owned by a member (Vos?) which itself came from a run of only ten castings made from a screen used helmet.

It was done with permission from the original recaster, meaning that the original recaster agreed to allow someone to rip off the stuff that he ripped off  :lol

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Actually only four were made from the original mold. One was sold to a member, who sold it to member B. Member B asked member A if he could make copies and member A said sure. After that, whats the difference. Nobody had a problem when the original head was recast because everyone wanted one. I dont know if that is the source of Zorg's head but honestly, who cares.... many copies were made before that and ended up on ebay. No point in holding Zorg to that if in fact thats where his came from.

 

[Too Much Garlic]

"I don't say this phrase lightly in this hallowed place, but this is ***king inedible" quote by Rube from Dead Like Me

Is it just me or are we running around in circles and throwing stones at the ones in front of us?

 

[SithLord]

Originally posted by AnsonJames+Mar 29 2006, 11:43 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(AnsonJames @ Mar 29 2006, 11:43 AM)</div>

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@Mar 29 2006, 03:34 PM

The Same way you took AA's word.

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And I did. That and the fact that unlike anyone else here he actually worked on Star Wars.

Shame he was lying through his teeth about most of what he did then, eh?

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Were you there? Then what justifies you in saying that he is lying? Maybe you can clarify for us all here what it is exactly that AA has lied about....for the record.


T

 

[kurtyboy]

I wasn't pointing any blame at anyone. You just repeated the point I was trying to make. Nobody did any of this with permission from Lucasfilm so WHO CARES.

Originally posted by morpheus13+Mar 29 2006, 06:04 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(morpheus13 @ Mar 29 2006, 06:04 PM)</div>

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@Mar 29 2006, 03:57 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong but this is what I recall about the Zorg 3p0 heads.

They were recast from one owned by a member (Vos?) which itself came from a run of only ten castings made from a screen used helmet.

It was done with permission from the original recaster, meaning that the original recaster agreed to allow someone to rip off the stuff that he ripped off  :lol

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Actually only four were made from the original mold. One was sold to a member, who sold it to member B. Member B asked member A if he could make copies and member A said sure. After that, whats the difference. Nobody had a problem when the original head was recast because everyone wanted one. I dont know if that is the source of Zorg's head but honestly, who cares.... many copies were made before that and ended up on ebay. No point in holding Zorg to that if in fact thats where his came from.

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[DARKSIDE72]

One way or another this hobby is grounded in recasting and unlicencecd props. AA isn't a memeber here and doesn't have the licence. Grey area ...cast away...

 

[Darth Kahnt]

Originally posted by DARKSIDE72@Mar 29 2006, 06:12 PM
One way or another this hobby is grounded in recasting and unlicencecd props. AA isn't a memeber here and doesn't have the licence. Grey area ...cast away...

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Im with you.

 

[TK709]

Would it be okay if I recast this thread?

Charlie C

 

[Dark Shadow]

This thread remind me of when I was a kid and loved to watch my hamsters squabble in their glass fish tanks. Sit back and enjoy :lol

 

[Gytheran]

Originally posted by TK709@Mar 29 2006, 04:57 PM
Would it be okay if I recast this thread?

Charlie C

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Why not? It's a softer recast of my thread.

 

[Gytheran]

Originally posted by DarthKahnt+Mar 29 2006, 04:27 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(DarthKahnt @ Mar 29 2006, 04:27 PM)</div>

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@Mar 29 2006, 06:12 PM
One way or another this hobby is grounded in recasting and unlicencecd props. AA isn't a memeber here and doesn't have the licence. Grey area ...cast away...

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Im with you.

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Agreed. If AA is protected by non-member status in regards to recasting members' work, it also denies him the luxury of protecting his own 'non-member' work from being recast by our members.

Cast away...

 

[GeneralMayhem]

I'm not touching this one...

 

[allosaur176]

I'm gonna recast this whole damn message board... Take That.....

 

[micdavis]

You see the second button is too high. It makes or breaks the shirt.

 

[Darth Domain]

So are we all gonna recast AA and everything else like there's no tomorrow. And there will be no judgements by any one on the board unless we recast an active members peice which is not acceptable especially when they may have recast it from another source at some time?

But we can Do AA right, there's no gray area there?

 

[Star Wars Helmets]

Originally posted by Gytheran+Mar 30 2006, 03:57 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Gytheran @ Mar 30 2006, 03:57 AM)</div>

Originally posted by DarthKahnt@Mar 29 2006, 04:27 PM
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@Mar 29 2006, 06:12 PM
One way or another this hobby is grounded in recasting and unlicencecd props. AA isn't a memeber here and doesn't have the licence. Grey area ...cast away...

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Im with you.

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Agreed. If AA is protected by non-member status in regards to recasting members' work, it also denies him the luxury of protecting his own 'non-member' work from being recast by our members.

Cast away...

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So presumably its also “okay” to recast all of TE’s work since he’s a banned and therefore “non” member?

It sounds like you're keen to encourage a recasting free for all?

:thumbsdown :thumbsdown :thumbsdown

Cheers

Jez

 

[GINO]

Here's my .02.

If I ever thought about making some of my best and most exclusive items available here, hearing some of these comments have clarified just how foolish that would be. This also saddens me as I'm sure that others who have some great items feel the same which means that they will never see the light of day either. In the end, we all suffer.
People are always confused why some of the prop collecting veterans are hesitant to share pieces, info, photos, etc.. Speaking personally, the relaxed attitude about recasting or not respecting others hard work or investment (ie. time, research, money..) is why I mainly only share with a small amount of people who I KNOW respect and share my views on these issues.

Everyone knows I have no love for AA. Given that, I can still say I don't think it would be any more right to recast his stuff as it would to recast anyone else's. Being a member or a non member SHOULD be irrevelent. Did he recast other member's works here? Yes. But two wrongs don't make a right. Going down this path would only lead to prop recasting anarchy.

 

[voice in the crowd]

Originally posted by GINO@Mar 30 2006, 10:04 AM
Everyone knows I have no love for AA. Given that, I can still say I don't think it would be any more right to recast his stuff as it would to recast anyone else's. Being a member or a non member SHOULD be irrevelent. Did he recast other member's works here? Yes. But two wrongs don't make a right. Going down this path would only lead to prop recasting anarchy.

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Wise words Gino.

Peoples opinions of AA/SDS are clouding this issue.

I don't think Dr. S posted this thread as a bash AA/SDS thread and his question was obviously hypothetical and there is not any intention to recast anyones work(correct me if I am wrong Dr. S) I think it was posted to show how the rules aren't actually set in stone rules. The rules are left up to enterpretation which leaves them open to abuse.

Gino is right two wrongs don't make a right and for anyone in this thread who does feel it is ok to recast SDS then possibly their opinion is made up by the propmaker in question.

Given Gino's very public condemnations of AA/SDS in the past it is clear that even with his dislike of SDS his judgement on right and wrong hasn't been blurred by this :thumbsup .

If the people saying its ok to recast AA were asked the same question about any other prop maker would they give the same answer?

Cheers Chris