Building the Red October

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Inspired by Hotshot's work, and a recent viewing of the film on Blu-Ray, I figured it was time to do a long-time-waiting project.

I've had the Dragon brand version 1:350 scale model kit of the Russian Typhoon sub for many years, with the intent of modifying it to look like the Red October. Though I must admit, when I first got it, I figured I'd be adding a sonar pod to the rudder sail and that'd be about it. Ha!

Hotshot's work, along with studying the available reference on the studio model, show there are many more subtle differences. Perhaps at the time the film was made the Russian Typhoon wasn't as well documented? Perhaps the filmmakers took some creative license? Regardless, there are some notable differences.

The original sub (and model kit) had flares in the hull along side the conning tower, which had to be sanded down, with some filler added on the backside.
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Beginning the cut to extend the hull...
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The script states Red October is "12 meters longer and three meters wider than a standard Typhoon." In this scale 12 meters (39 feet) is 1.35 inches. I added one inch in length to the hull, but no width. I figured, at the current dimensions of my model (with one inch added), if you magically expanded the whole thing so that the extension grows to 1.3 inches, then the width would grow comensurately, to about .3" wider (three meters in 1:350 scale is .34"). So the way I figure (if my mental gymnastics are correct) I have just about the right porportions, with a slightly reduced scale (maybe 1:375). Make sense?
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I added styrene over the "girders"...
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And filler over the styrene (my favorite - Elmer's wood filler).
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By the way, to give this some scale, here's a closer shot of the cut-away. If I've done my math correctly, the sub is 55 feet tall! That's about the height of Hollywood sign, or a five-story building! Imagine how small a man would be standing next to that pillar!
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Here's a closer shot of the extension. I used styrene, square "tubes". Getting it aligned in all directions was a bear.
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Your sub must have seen a pretty mermaid underwater, that quite an extension !

Looking forward to more progress pics.
 
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Your sub must have seen a pretty mermaid underwater, that quite an extension !

Looking forward to more progress pics.

Yes - rather phallic isn't it...!?

I REALLY love that sub !!!!!

And your Falcon is quiet AMAZING too

Thanks Fred - on both accounts!


In the mean time since I posted this morning, I rummaged through my spare parts box, and found a nearly perfect item for the sonar pod. It is either a bomb, or external fuel tank from an aircraft and will work beautifully.

Although, I really do like the design of the standard upper rudder fin. I like the pod of the Red October, but am not too fond of the more slender upper rudder fin (or whatever its called).
 
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See how the upper fin is narrow or shorter than the lower? The stock upper fin is the same lenght as the lower and - to me - seems more natural.

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Hey, cool. :D

... I'm a fan of the film, obviously, and I like to see increased interest in her.

... So, having seen the film in HD, what's Red October's sail number? There's three letters at the top that I can't quite make out, then CCCP, then 436.


-Mike
 
I remember putting together the Red October model that was available around the time the film came out. I don't think it was anywhere near 1:350. But this should be quite impressive. Looking forward to it...
 
Although, I really do like the design of the standard upper rudder fin. I like the pod of the Red October, but am not too fond of the more slender upper rudder fin (or whatever its called).


Took the plunge and cut up the stock rudder fin...

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Will you STOP showing off and having the Falcon in the background!
I mean, it's like saying looky what I got, don't ya wish yours was as pretty as mine!!!!!!!!

Just kidding buddy, it looks great as well as your Red October build!

Kenny
 
Here's the latest...

Working on reshaping the con. I back-filled it with resin to allow me to whittle it down. I also increased the height. The kit provides two pieces for the top; one with antenna and periscopes up, and one down. I just stacked both, one on top of the other.

Followed a similar technique with the sonar pod. Still have a ways to go on both. And per request - no Falcon pics! :D

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Interesting bit of trivia that perhaps sub fans may have know, but I didn't...

As most of us know or have realized, the Red October was based on the Typhoon-class Russian sub. In fiction, the Red October is the test-bed and ultimate realization of the Catapillar drive system, and also bears an enigmatic pod riding at the top of the rear rudder/sail. Apparently, these features either existed, or were theorized to exist, not on the Typhoon-class, but on the Victor-class.

From Wikipedia:

"Victor III
Victor III - Soviet Designation Project 671RTM Shchuka (Pike) - entered service in 1979; 25 or 26 were produced until 1991. Quieter than previous Soviet submarines, these ships had 2 tubes for launching SS-N-21 or SS-N-15 missiles and Type 53 torpedoes, plus another 4 tubes for launching SS-N-16 missiles and Type 65 torpedoes. 24 tube-launched weapons or 36 mines could be on-board. The Victor-III caused a minor furore in NATO intelligence agencies at its introduction because of the distinctive pod on the vertical stern-plane. Speculation immediately mounted that the pod was the housing for some sort of exotic silent propulsion system, possibly a Magnetohydrodynamic drive unit. Another theory proposed that it was some sort of weapon system. In the end, the Victor-III's pod was identified as a hydrodynamic housing for a reelable towed passive sonar array; the system was subsequently incorporated into the Sierra-class and Akula-class SSNs."

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Funny - I'd forgotten about this thread.

I dusted off this model over the past couple of days.

I'd also forgotten how much work and mods I'd put into it. I had reached the point where the model was painted, but no markings or weathering (or additional details).

I then set it asided. And ignored it.

Apparently for two to three years!

Anyway, I've added all the markings to the sub now, and am prepared to begin weathering.

The Red October, along all Typhoons, bear a matrix on the surface making it look almost like the tiled surface of the space shuttle (check out the fun image in this thread of the sub in the baseball stadium). So that is what has me vexed right now. I have some nylon window screen material that I think I can use to simulate this, using the mesh as a mask.

We'll see how it goes...
 
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Glad you are getting back to this build. The mods you are making should make all the difference in producing an accurate representation of the sub from the film. I myself have the Revelle original release of the Hunt for Red October submarine kit in my attic. After getting it, I opened the box and was disappointed to realize it was just a repackaged Typhoon kit and would require a lot of work to make it look anything like the film sub. On the flip side it looks like the sail is about the right shape and it does include the pod for the top of the upper tail fin but the tailfin itself is the wrong shape. Another thing that Revellle got right was the tiling on the hull which your model seems to be lacking. On the downside, it does not have any parts for the caterpillar impeller drive at all !
Anyway, I stashed it away for another day. Your build may inspire me to give it another shot.
 
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