Building The Death Star - PRODUCTION

[DavidVonRiesen]

Re: Building The Death Star - PRODUCTION - Dish completed 12/20/2010

This makes me want to build a Death Star, too bad i don`t have a job.:confused

 

[Davy Jones]

Re: Building The Death Star - PRODUCTION - Dish completed 12/20/2010

I may go in with a Liquitex Transparent White and go over the squares just to lighten them up a tad.

To me the pictures you posted support this fix. To my eyes the dish panels only look a tad more dark than the darker of the "cityscape" panels around the dish.

Its the color more than anything that throws me. Maybe the your white spray will do nicely but I would just mix up a lighter, less blue gray and do them again.

 

[PHArchivist]

Re: Building The Death Star - PRODUCTION - Dish completed 12/20/2010

Here is a test with the same color I used for the Wilson Hair. Check the test trapezoid, in different locations, and different lighting.

Bottom half of dish; no flash

Top half of dish; no flash

Top half of dish; with flash

 

[Davy Jones]

Re: Building The Death Star - PRODUCTION - Dish completed 12/20/2010

I like it better but maybe a bit too light. Add a touch of black to the "wilson hair" color and you're there!

 

[PHArchivist]

Re: Building The Death Star - PRODUCTION - Dish completed 12/20/2010

I like it better but maybe a bit too light. Add a touch of black to the "wilson hair" color and you're there!

We're on the same page. Too light is my thought too. But I'm almost inclined to go too light than too dark.

By the way these are rattle can colors, not mixed.

The lighter tone "scales" the color a bit. The darker, more blue color is too "fresh"; too stark; too new...

I'll keep working with the greys I have to see if there is a happy medium. But if not, I may go with the lighter color.

 

[feek61]

Re: Building The Death Star - PRODUCTION - Dish completed 12/20/2010

In the photo you first posted of the finished dish the grey color has too much of a blue hue which bothered me when I first saw it. The vertical bands above the dish appear to be a more greenish grey which looks perfect (I do agree that the newer color looks good just too light). You should try a slightly darker version of that color. Still fabulous work and I love your attention to detail. I have no doubt that you will get it perfect. Still this is one of only a hand full of threads that I look forward to seeing updates.

Carry on!

 

[vaderdarth]

Re: Building The Death Star - PRODUCTION - Dish completed 12/20/2010

Ever so slightly darker.....almost so slight that you can hardly tell the difference!!!

 

[MonsieurTox]

Re: Building The Death Star - PRODUCTION - Dish completed 12/20/2010

Looking good to me Rob ! I cant see the new details you found on the artic area ?

 

[PHArchivist]

Re: Building The Death Star - PRODUCTION - Dish completed 12/20/2010

Looking good to me Rob ! I cant see the new details you found on the artic area ?

This is what I am referring to, Julien, but I haven't added this to my model yet.

 

[PHArchivist]

Re: Building The Death Star - PRODUCTION - Dish completed 12/20/2010

Here are three colors to test. What do you think?

First is what I call "Now" (the brand); you've already seen this one before

Second is Tamiya Grey

Third is Neutral Grey

 

[MonsieurTox]

Re: Building The Death Star - PRODUCTION - Dish completed 12/20/2010

This is what I am referring to, Julien, but I haven't added this to my model yet.

No Rob, I was meaning I cant see any detail on the original that is not on yours ?

 

[PHArchivist]

Re: Building The Death Star - PRODUCTION - Dish completed 12/20/2010

Any/all of the pencil lines above the dark, vertical bands (in the lower third of the image), were not on mine yet.

But they are now!

So the lines in the red ovals were not on mine until today.

 

[Carbon]

Re: Building The Death Star - PRODUCTION - Dish completed 12/20/2010

That thing is huge! Great job you must have the patience of elementary school teacher.

 

[MonsieurTox]

Re: Building The Death Star - PRODUCTION - Dish completed 12/20/2010

Thanks Rob ! I thought you was going to add them later !
There're so much lines on this beastie that you can easily miss something ! Or think "Oh Ill do them later" and you forget about it lol That's my case very often

You're probably happy to see the end of this (even if there are all those holes to drill !) but we, readers, will be sad to see it finished after all those years. Now I'm waiting for the final pics, with the lights turned on ! :love

 

[PHArchivist]

Re: Building The Death Star - PRODUCTION - Dish completed 12/20/2010

The biggest challenge is that the image above is the most detailed an comprehensive image there is of the lines in the "arctic band and circle".

And it is VERY little to go on.

I am pretty confident I have obtained as many photos of the original as possible prior to and during filming, and it simply doesn't show up in other pics, due to camera angle, resolution of the image, or both.

Frankly (as mentioned earlier) I had no idea this area was detailed like this. All along, I always thought the artic cirlce (or cap, or "yamika"!) was more or less void of lines, and I thought it was a fairly solid grey.

And today the original is wiped clean of any and all lines in this area.

Anyway...

With such little reference to go on, I will need to extrapolate, and make my best guess as to how it will look. I've done about 1/3 so far, and really, it looks weird to me having detail in this area.

But I need to remind myself that no one (except the original artists) has seen this area as it was originally finished. In 30 years of images looked at my me, it just doesn't show. And seeing the original today, it doesn't have it anymore.

So I am very accustomed to a more or less blank area. It will take a bit of getting used to.

 

[Jedi Dade]

Re: Building The Death Star - PRODUCTION - Dish completed 12/20/2010

OK this is a bit of "out of the box" thinking... does the botton polar region (antartic) have the lines intact... I'm thinking that the "top" was sitting "upright" as the rain and whatnot got to it... maybe the bottom is a "better" representation of what it "should" look like assuming the ILM guys did the top and bottom "similarly".

Its probably also a "reasonalbe" assumption they did the other sections of the "arctic" region in similar density (line wise) as the region you have reference for.

Regardless you are going to have as close to a definitive DS as can reasonably be gotten short of having doc browns time machine on hand and gettng reference circa 1975...

Good on Ya brotha!

Jedi Dade

 

[Davy Jones]

Re: Building The Death Star - PRODUCTION - Dish completed 12/20/2010

Here are three colors to test. What do you think?

First is what I call "Now" (the brand); you've already seen this one before

Second is Tamiya Grey

Third is Neutral Grey

The Tamiya grey looks good to me. Either of the first two would work fine I think. If the hue of the Tamiya is a bit too different (even if the shade is closer to the darkness you want) you might just want to stick with the "Now" brand color.

Problem then becomes what you want to use for that lighter grey panel in the lower right of the dish. You need some contrast between the two but I wouldnt go any lighter than that panel is now.

Its the "Greys" man. They always mess things up.

 

[PHArchivist]

Re: Building The Death Star - PRODUCTION - Dish completed 12/20/2010

Again, we're on the same wavelength. The Tamiya reads best to me. And I think it will provide enough contrast to the lighter panel. Maybe not as much as needed to be perfect, but enough.

 

[PHArchivist]

Re: Building The Death Star - PRODUCTION - Dish completed 12/20/2010

I believe I may have found a previously unpublished image of the Death Star. I picked up a copy of the Star Wars Insider Special Interview Edition, and it has an image I have never seen before. Pretty hi-res too, all things considered.

But my scanner is on the fritz! :angry

 

[bqk333]

Re: Building The Death Star - PRODUCTION - Dish completed 12/20/2010

Here you go Sir... a Reference Photo (for Size purposes)... of course it isn't exactly the same since it is the other Death Star...

I have just gone through and read a lot of your previous pages to see the progress... and I have to say that this is Beautiful Sir!!! I want one!!!


-Bqk333

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Here are three colors to test. What do you think?

First is what I call "Now" (the brand); you've already seen this one before

Second is Tamiya Grey

Third is Neutral Grey