HITMAN2049
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Ikr but it does kind of makes sense the coat is waxed cotton and he was in rain and snow in the movie so it would make sense to weather proof the coat
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Limited Run BLADE RUNNER 2049: Officer K (Ryan Gosling) Jacket/Coat - NOW SELLING
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What NoahSimpson means is that everyone getting this coat is aware that there is some sort of coating on it in the movie, but so far nobody has figured out how to perfect the look, at least not in an easy cheap way. In the film they used "laminated canvas" but we don't really know what that means, or what type of lamination was used. The movie coat has a bit of shine to it, but it's actually not waterproof, there are clear shots of it absorbing rain.
ONRX Drumani
Active Member
Zlurpo it's right. Himself its being in his coat for a year and in that time he does not achieved the right coating, so, he knows about it.
My feeling about that the coat is not finished without the coating. I think the coating mades the coat, without it is something closer, but not right.
I can see, HITMAN2049, that you post it a pic from somebody that i figure is ofering and selling a K's coat. The pic of The coat is cut, but maybe you can share The link of them and maybe we can ask about his coating and see The whole picture.
My feeling about that the coat is not finished without the coating. I think the coating mades the coat, without it is something closer, but not right.
I can see, HITMAN2049, that you post it a pic from somebody that i figure is ofering and selling a K's coat. The pic of The coat is cut, but maybe you can share The link of them and maybe we can ask about his coating and see The whole picture.
Whatever they used may or may not scale up well... It's a company that makes tiny clothing for action figures/displays.
Hall86
Well-Known Member
I think #onesixthtailoring is GeeWhizCustoms. They do highly detailed clothes for 1:6 scale action figures. Not a full size coat.
http://www.geewhizcustoms.com/227-officer-ks-outfit-in-blade-runner-2049
http://www.geewhizcustoms.com/226-officder-ks-blade-runner-2049-coat
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ONRX Drumani
Active Member
Oh! I think does not fit my body. I'm small. But not that small. :lol
ONRX Drumani
Active Member
This looks pretty closer, though.
nexusplexus
New Member
If anything we could assume coat's lamination was intended to mimic leather and MAYBE to offer some water-resistance, not waterproofing. An excerpt from one of Renee's interviews "it’s laminated cotton that we painted ... Leather would have become wet and very heavy in that environment...etc". The fact that she rules out the use of leather could indicate that it was the aesthetic goal. Her solution to working with a coat, that was knowingly to be soaked, was opting for cotton, as leather would have become too heavy during Ryan's fight scene. I would steer clear of spray products like "Rust-Oleum Neverwet Fabric Water Replant (clear formula)" or even "Crep Protect" intended for clothing because they aren't permanent solutions. You'll find yourself having to reapply the stuff every couple days and they wont provide that extra shimmer.
my 2 cents. The film crew painted over lamination,whatever that means, I wonder if the integrity of the coat's color was only meant to last the length of production. I've seen on this thread, those of you who know WAY more than us laymen, suggest that painting over varnish (our best substitute for lamination, and solution to weatherproofing) wouldn't provide lasting results. And if we were to apply paint then varnish (as practically intended), the dilemma becomes, how do we expect to recreate the same look as the film crew if we must reverse their production method. It seems to me altering the coat is a matter of choosing to recreate the coat's shimmered finish or choosing a utilitarian weatherproofing. Anyone who can kill these two birds with one stone (and I hope you're out there) please share.
my 2 cents. The film crew painted over lamination,whatever that means, I wonder if the integrity of the coat's color was only meant to last the length of production. I've seen on this thread, those of you who know WAY more than us laymen, suggest that painting over varnish (our best substitute for lamination, and solution to weatherproofing) wouldn't provide lasting results. And if we were to apply paint then varnish (as practically intended), the dilemma becomes, how do we expect to recreate the same look as the film crew if we must reverse their production method. It seems to me altering the coat is a matter of choosing to recreate the coat's shimmered finish or choosing a utilitarian weatherproofing. Anyone who can kill these two birds with one stone (and I hope you're out there) please share.
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Hall86
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Exactly this ^. It's mimicking leather which is the goal, without it being leather.
As seen here you can achieve a leather-like effect just pasting on acrylic, but factoring in mediums and finishes to make the paint atleast semi-permanent makes this more challenging.
In hindsight I could have just opted for a leather version, but where would be the fun in that?
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Hall86
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I thought that, but the way they're applying that paint, it'll flake off before long. Fabric mediums are needed and they inevitably change the finish and the way the paint absorbs into the fabric. It's a balancing act, again between accuracy and permanency. Personally, painting onto a £350 coat I'd rather have something that will last.
MAJSmith
Sr Member
Yeah, good point. I think I’ll stick with a professional wax job.
The Character
New Member
Yeah, im with you there .. wax for me .. at least i know in 10 years time i'll still have a jacket not a crispy cracked pile of bits.
On the other hand if you were intending on a quick fix for pure cosplaying then its a great fix to apply to the multitude of cheap cosplay cotton coats out there ...
On the other hand if you were intending on a quick fix for pure cosplaying then its a great fix to apply to the multitude of cheap cosplay cotton coats out there ...
Hey all, here a video of the zlurpo piece after applying the Otter wax. It's pretty perfect, IMO. Doesn't really modify the color that much, makes it shiny, and maintains nearly the same flexibility (much better than my attempt at applying liquitex). This was the wax: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008PJV0P2/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
It's completely dry in this video, and was dried thoroughly with a small handheld crafts drier: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00083OZQY/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Had to convert the vid to a gif to post here, but it captures it pretty well, though if someone wants to see the actual video, DM me and I can email it to you (its 51mb):
EDIT1: err.. I guess gifs don't work either. here's a link to it: http://gph.is/2IHn02e
EDIT2: i meant to say this too: this will take a little while to do the entire coat, and might take more than 1 of those otter wax bars - I'm not sure yet - but it's definitely the method I feel comfortable with doing and I feel like potential damage to the coat doing this process is minimal, but DON'T QUOTE ME OR HOLD ME TO THAT
It's completely dry in this video, and was dried thoroughly with a small handheld crafts drier: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00083OZQY/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Had to convert the vid to a gif to post here, but it captures it pretty well, though if someone wants to see the actual video, DM me and I can email it to you (its 51mb):
EDIT1: err.. I guess gifs don't work either. here's a link to it: http://gph.is/2IHn02e
EDIT2: i meant to say this too: this will take a little while to do the entire coat, and might take more than 1 of those otter wax bars - I'm not sure yet - but it's definitely the method I feel comfortable with doing and I feel like potential damage to the coat doing this process is minimal, but DON'T QUOTE ME OR HOLD ME TO THAT
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MAJSmith
Sr Member
Has anyone tried the Otter Wax Fabric Dressing? I'm not really sure what the difference is in this and the wax.
https://www.otterwax.com/collections/fabric-care/products/fabric-dressing
https://www.otterwax.com/collections/fabric-care/products/fabric-dressing
jarrettkong
New Member
Would anyone with the second run be willing to post pictures?
ORNX (think I spelled that right) used this, but I think had some trouble. The issue with this dressing is it's something you need to melt and keep melting, and then apply with a brush. The example I showed on the other page, where you use the bar of wax, I can only assume is the easier option. You just basically rub the bar of wax onto the fabric then evenly distribute heat with the craft heater. This is a tutorial page similar to my process: http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-Wax-Your-Clothing-and-Gear/
and here:
https://www.artofmanliness.com/2014/06/03/how-to-wax-your-own-clothing-and-gear/
though that second one doesn't really use items that portray the "Waxed" cotton effect, but the first apron one does.
