Be aware all jack sparrows around ..This guy cannot be trusted .

[paplooo]

some of mines. now jants plz. post pictures of the coin i sent you next to yours ,the same with the cross mine vs your sculpt.
the tassel i sent you and the tassel you are offering here:
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ive got some emails where people are talking about a trick
cast the original, then put clay on it.. and make it looks like is your own sculpt .. change some bits and cast it again... and voila!!

if you want more info ive got plenty.

cap.cristian

PDersonal issues and false accusations is another topic. just concentrate in this jants.
thanks

 

[paplooo]

more info, and check this guys.. this is a picture he posted the day when he received my items. this is the coin i sent to him ... now.. this is the picture of the stuff he is selling now. take a close look ... thanks.

 

[Jants]

And look at the coins, they are different! Look at how I put dots for the eyes, because I couldn't make the eyes look like the real one. Look at the teeth, couldn't replicate it exact, look at the cut, the size difference, the head not as detailed etc.. etc... So either way, you will always find a reason why mine looks different. You can say, he clay pressed it or added clay on top of it and changed it and re-molded, or carved on it, changed the sides, changed the this, changed the that. If you are convinced it is a recast, the argument will never be over...because you will always have a reason to why ours look different from one anothers. But let's say you are right, I did do these stupid changes and re-molded and re-molded (when I could have just sculpted them once and made 1 mold) changed it...then it is different then yours and not an exact replica of the real deal. Either way, you no longer should have a problem offering your real deal castings...but wait, you said you're not a seller...so either either either way, you should crack open a bottle of rum, sip it and let it go. Cuz even if I am banned off this forum for your false accusations, that will not stop me from offering my coin and my cross. You continuing this is a lose lose situation anyway you look at it...and judging by the floods of support, even from people I don't know, this debate is over. Oh and for the record, I have your real deal casting on my wig, not my versions. Thank you Cristian.

I've spent enough time on this, too much. Now bring me that horizon!

 

[paplooo]

your welcome .

 

[Amish Trooper]

Jaunty why don't you post a pic side by side of the products. Man you booty pirates make me think of the TK world

 

[Zombie Killer]

Those pieces look like they are recast. Yes there are few differences but the chances they were sculpted with the same marks and the same exact position of all the details and all in the exact same positions in relationship to each other makes me think you did a little tweeking so you can call it your own. Too many details are exactly the same. This pic here just shows how exact they are. You say your is taller, really. Why is the bottom of yours higher up in this pic? Yes it's taller if you put it on a stepstool. Even the top hole is lopsided the exact same amount.

 

[Amish Trooper]

That's whyIi say let's see the actual items side by side not two pics morphed together. But I agree with ZK.

 

[Utinni]

Does Jants still have his masters? Or at least pictures of his process molding those parts? I ALWAYS take WIP pictures of all my work, not only for my personal scrap book, but also if the recasting question comes up. That long silver piece would more than likely be made of something hard like a plastic and not all clay. Also I always keep my masters in case my mold dies. Only way to prove they are not recasts would have a 3rd party look at both in person and take detailed pictures and measurements. Otherwise it's just pounding sand.

- Jeff

 

[simpletom]

I took the photos of the two coins and put them in photoshop i lay one picture on top of the other and played with the opaque setting for a while, and yet while they are very very similar there is a few very obvious differences, I didn't see them at first because everything looks so spot on, but if you look the skull is the most obvious that it isn't exactly the same, the eyes aren't quite the same. The bow on the left also has some obvious differences. There are still however some things which are pretty near identical.

They are very similar but i mean seriously this is a forum of top professional artists who pride themselves on making things 100% accurate, look at the guy thats making the millennium falcon I've told so many people about his work because he strives to make it a perfect replica of the one ilm used in the filming. What is to say that this guy didn't go the extra bit and make his coin as close as he could.

just my opinion don't hate me because i took the other guys side i just don't want to see someone get banned/tarnish his rep if he isn't actually guilty of said allegations.

tom

 

[Amish Trooper]

Janty already has a tarnished rep. It's not like this is the first time this has came up. It's either he recast or ripped off members threads on the rpf.

 

[Utinni]

The whole photoshop picture over picture is almost worthless in this type of situation. The angle that the cameras are, aren't the same. The only way to prove anything that way is to put a camera on a tripod and place both coins in the exact location without moving the camera. The Rocketeer helmet thread shows just how the camera lens can distort shapes at different angles. Photoshop comparisons like people use here are like lie detectors in Court, nice to get an idea but can't be used for 100% proof. I don't give them a second look. Bring on the original masters!

- Jeff

 

[Amish Trooper]

/\ agreed hence I said earlier lets see original next to original.

 

[adamata]

Jants,

The fastest way to finish this argument?

Post pics of your masters. Simple.

If you created those pieces from scratch using the ones you bought as reference, then just post pics of the masters you made. I have made a few pieces myself and I always have the masters handy in case the mold fails and I need to re-do it.

All this hassle could be avoided. Its like doing math in school.

Just show your work.

 

[Sixxgunn13]

Wow I'm not a Jack fan but I think the reason he hasn't posted pics yet
Is cause he's scrambling to make "WIP"
pics..
Jaunt says he now makes a more accurate tassel.. His looks slapped together just to look like he is doing original stuff.. But yet it looks nothing like the tassel he received.

Jaunts needs to post pick of "his" coin with a ruler for a sz ref.
And he same with the coin from paploo.

I've sculpted stuff and ya I can get close..
If given enough time anyone can do a exact match.

Jaunts, what was the turn around time after you got the coin and "sculpted " your coin and offerd it?

 

[tk1055]

Sorry but I have to ask, why sculpt in the area you drill out? Sorry Jant, but this looks very questionable to me.

 

[Jants]

I'll make my final response. I'm not scrambling, because as I mentioned earlier, people will simply say I scambled and quickly did something like clay press, changed it etc.. and posted fresh pictures. I don't care enough to go through that, cuz it is a lose lose situtation. As was mention, with thanks, they are not the same. Almost the same, but not.

Amish Trooper, I have never bought anything from anybody and popped their work. I don't know where you are getting that. I used to fight against recasting, many of my haters hate me for how much I pushed against simply buying something and popping it, because many of them are recasters...before Cristian, no one can say I recast their work...NO ONE. I'v gotten real deal pieces (cleanly), I've got molds sold to me fair and square from Bob Dullam, I have sculpted my own stuff etc... not once have I popped anybodys work. Period.

Sixxgunn13, Cristian's tassel he sent me, is nothing like the hero tassel on Jack...other then the red material hanging from it...the base, shape, look etc.. is nothing like it... I replicated these stunt version tassels and then did my own. Mine is more like the original belly dancing style tassel that I posted. It is dinged, bent, has a pattern, different bell etc... It's not slapped together, it's based on the hero one...almost nothing like Cristians and for one more record, I posted it long before I was accused of anything. Check keep to the code, the multiple jack's section as to when I posted my tassel, which is closer to the real one then Cristians...or my facebook page (facebook.com/jchattaw). Plenty of my work in there to see...but I will post some of my work here. So research a little before thinking you have the big picture.

Some of my work:
Bone strand:

Finished piece:

Sprocket piece, next to the real one:

My wig, based on the real one, human hair dreads and partial wool dreads (until I have the time to make it all human hair):

I don't need to recast Cristian...but may aswell have, since I'm getting accused of it anyways and I came so close. Oh and as for "sculpt in the area you drill out), I don't even get that. Making an unclean dent with the end of my mini scraping tool to mark where I am drilling out, isn't sculpting where I drill out.

 

[Utinni]

This is just a question, not and an accusation, aren't Christian's pieces supposed to be straight from the studio? If so, why would Jants need to remake them to be more accurate? So are Christian's pieces not really what they're supposed to be? For something as small as wig parts I don't see the sense in needing to make stunt versions. It doesn't make sense.

- Jeff

 

[Jants]

It caused a stir. Cristian told me that the stunt wigs had the ones he showed pictures of and that is all he is offering...but some of the pieces he has said are real were seriously questioned, but I took his word for it, because he was a stand in for some scenes.

This is what the hero tassel looks like on Johnny's wig. Granted mine isn't exact, but closer...and sculpted my version before I saw this picture. Before this picture we only had blurry versions of it. Now that I can see it better, I am going to replicate it to be even more accurate. However, clearly this looks nothing like what Cristian sent me, which is why I decided to do a closer version of it:

 

[kurtyboy]

Is this definitely your final, final, final response? :rolleyes

It caused a stir. Cristian told me that the stunt wigs had the ones he showed pictures of and that is all he is offering...but some of the pieces he has said are real were seriously questioned, but I took his word for it, because he was a stand in for some scenes.

This is what the hero tassel looks like on Johnny's wig. Granted mine isn't exact, but closer...and sculpted my version before I saw this picture. Before this picture we only had blurry versions of it. Now that I can see it better, I am going to replicate it to be even more accurate. However, clearly this looks nothing like what Cristian sent me, which is why I decided to do a closer version of it:

 

[Sixxgunn13]

Ah! Thx for clearing that up, sorry if I came off like I was accusing you.. Again I'm not a jack fan.

Fair enough .. We will never know. If you did or didn't till anyone can truly prove it your not guilty.

How about sending a copy from partys involved and send it to a mod to decide.

Cheers

It caused a stir. Cristian told me that the stunt wigs had the ones he showed pictures of and that is all he is offering...but some of the pieces he has said are real were seriously questioned, but I took his word for it, because he was a stand in for some scenes.

This is what the hero tassel looks like on Johnny's wig. Granted mine isn't exact, but closer...and sculpted my version before I saw this picture. Before this picture we only had blurry versions of it. Now that I can see it better, I am going to replicate it to be even more accurate. However, clearly this looks nothing like what Cristian sent me, which is why I decided to do a closer version of it: