ANOVOS issues (ANOVOS ONLY discussion)
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darthjones
Sr Member
That's kookie - myself, I am skilled enough to sand back the bead of acrylic clear coat and re-polish it but boy, what a rookie move, that pooling of acrylic.
I am still keeping my distance here emotionally - not for fear of saying something mean but for fear of flipping out over this in some other way.
Again, this is a great example of modern "thinking" on behalf of Anovos. The middle of everything is getting lost in this culture: the Middle Class, the cultivation or "middle" of any project, and anything that has to do with that zone between buying the groceries and serving the meal. There are spaghetti sauces that only work if you simmer them for about 5 - 6 hours. And if you have eaten it, you can taste the difference between it and one that has been simmered for 3 hours or less. Borsalino hats used to keep their rabbit pelts for three years before even thinking of making a hat out of them. And a good Barolo needs to age for at least 10 years even though I can hear Anovos-tier jokers saying, "oh, not anymore!"
The misguided may read this and call such notions "elitist..."
But if that is the case, why is everyone then searching for this level of quality?
I wrote things like this years ago here and got criticized. I even took some of those posts down. Now that proof of failure is just cascading down crumpled walls I feel safer about it - and really truly pissed off to the point of uncharted territory.
I am still keeping my distance here emotionally - not for fear of saying something mean but for fear of flipping out over this in some other way.
Again, this is a great example of modern "thinking" on behalf of Anovos. The middle of everything is getting lost in this culture: the Middle Class, the cultivation or "middle" of any project, and anything that has to do with that zone between buying the groceries and serving the meal. There are spaghetti sauces that only work if you simmer them for about 5 - 6 hours. And if you have eaten it, you can taste the difference between it and one that has been simmered for 3 hours or less. Borsalino hats used to keep their rabbit pelts for three years before even thinking of making a hat out of them. And a good Barolo needs to age for at least 10 years even though I can hear Anovos-tier jokers saying, "oh, not anymore!"
The misguided may read this and call such notions "elitist..."
But if that is the case, why is everyone then searching for this level of quality?
I wrote things like this years ago here and got criticized. I even took some of those posts down. Now that proof of failure is just cascading down crumpled walls I feel safer about it - and really truly pissed off to the point of uncharted territory.
I think we all need to keep in mind that as good as Anovos claims the Mandalorian helmet is, it is a mass produced helmet. Yes, $700 is a lot of money for a helmet but for people that don't have the skills to make one then it is still a valid option.
Now, if you want the most accurate, perfect and awesome helmet then you are going to have to buy one raw, modify it to perfection and learn how to perfectly recreate the finish and gloss and that with your time, supplies and equipment will be much more than $700.
For $700 even though that is a lot of money it looks pretty darn good.
Now weather they will actually deliver or if people should give Anovos a dime and contribute to their business practices is a completely different story.
Now, if you want the most accurate, perfect and awesome helmet then you are going to have to buy one raw, modify it to perfection and learn how to perfectly recreate the finish and gloss and that with your time, supplies and equipment will be much more than $700.
For $700 even though that is a lot of money it looks pretty darn good.
Now weather they will actually deliver or if people should give Anovos a dime and contribute to their business practices is a completely different story.
Mr Mold Maker
Master Member
What you and many others may not realize is there are likely three clear coats on that helmet. There is one over a black base for the chrome. There is an intercoat between the chrome and final clear, and then there is the final clear.
Any one of those could be the cause of the run, but judging by the look of the chrome, it is very likely the base clear or a combination of the base and final clears.. Meaning you WILL remove paint sanding it back. Has nothing to do with skill. It would be very hard to touch up just those spots to a satisfactory quality.
As I said, for most folks it will just sit on the shelf and be perfectly fine, and I am happy for those folks.. but as someone who is intimately familiar with this painting process.. spraying clear coats is not hard. Especially on such a featureless piece. That should have been caught and dealt with before the first 5 helmets were off the line. Maybe it was? We’ll have to see.
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JetSetWilly
Well-Known Member
Whether it be from Disney pressure or just for cash, they are clearly pushing and rushing these through. There are bound to be QC issues.
cyberpyrot
Sr Member
Unless they start shipping COD I don't think many people will even order if they where in stock. Personally I feel even with my limited skills I could craft one in the time it would take for them to ship.
ggriffaw
Sr Member
This seems way premature to be criticizing the quality when no one has received a finished helmet yet. Let's see what the finished product looks like first. We don't know if the ones in the photo will be sent to customers or at what stage they are in the process.
Mr Mold Maker
Master Member
It’s just an observation and an educated guess. I’m not criticizing anything and not trying to dissuade anyone from purchasing what they want as I said in BOTH posts.. (I also said it could have been caught and corrected after those initial helmets.) If I was criticizing there would be a LOT more that could be said about the accuracy of these helmets and Anovos in general. We will see what customers get soon enough, assuming Anovos actually delivers on schedule.
If anyone is confused on what my initial post means, or about the process to paint these helmets PM me and I’d be happy to explain it.
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darthjones
Sr Member
Mr Mold Maker is totally right about the clear coats - it can only be sanded back down without painting if it is only the top coat that has beaded. And I think that what they post here will still look just great whether on the mantle piece or costuming or whatever.
But none of us would even be in this deep without the gorgeously obscene level of scrutiny to which Anovos has made themselves subject.
Were we getting our orders from Anovos and having fun with them (seems like fiction at this point) we would be far more forgiving. I would be at least.
But none of us would even be in this deep without the gorgeously obscene level of scrutiny to which Anovos has made themselves subject.
Were we getting our orders from Anovos and having fun with them (seems like fiction at this point) we would be far more forgiving. I would be at least.
darthjones
Sr Member
Just a bump. Gotta keep this thread front and center.
Funny, remember when we were JOKING that all three new Star Wars films would be out before we got our orders?
Funny, remember when we were JOKING that all three new Star Wars films would be out before we got our orders?
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GF
Sr Member
That a super easy helmet to produce as far as production goes and not worth $700, the biker scout which EFX made is a much more complexe helmet and was much cheaper, BTW its crappy looking, it looks silver painted with heavy clear coat, the ones in the show looks like real polished metal.
FlyAndFight
Active Member
The question is: Who will be pre-ordering and paying the full amount?
Not very wise, considering their track record with deliveries.
Not very wise, considering their track record with deliveries.
TradeCraft
Active Member
Sure, I’d take one if they pay me, but not the other way around. I’m completely done with Anovos after everything I learned, and how horribly I was treated by Charlie at Anovos.
Well EFX is the tell. It’s a limited run and they’re not sold out. The Biker Scott, and the Legends Vader helmets were both sold out in under a day.
Yet this is still available. That is telling to me that we as a community are getting wiser with our money. Hitting these companies that don’t deliver where it hurts. Their wallets.
darthjones
Sr Member
With bobamaker’s kit and some molotow chrome paint, it would come in way under $700
Mr Mold Maker
Master Member
You could get Bobamaker’s helmet and the actual paint (Alumaluster) and still come in under $700.
Anyone with a keen eye should be able to replicate this paint job. What’s crazy to me is Anovos and EFX had it infront of them and they still missed details.
darthjones
Sr Member
I made a mistake not being like you in this case. Not joking. I am a different kind of person after some of this - not all for the better either. You were smart.
ggriffaw
Sr Member
What details were missed? I still don't see how anyone can be commenting on details or quality considering no one has received a completed Mandalorian helmet from Anovos or efx.
Many people want to buy a finished product, not go through the effort of making it. I think it is to be expected that a mass produced product will have some compromises to meet time or budget constraints.
Some people have more of a collecting mindset. They would rather have a licensed product in it's original condition than a customized product that may be more accurate. An example is the Anovos Shoretrooper helmet. It is well known that the paint is the wrong color, but repainting it will make it much harder to resell regardless of how well the repaint was done.
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