ANOVOS issues (ANOVOS ONLY discussion)

[Apollo]

On the TOS and Next Gen, it had been done before you just had to know where to look

In recent years James Cawley and Adam Grossguth did them, and Adams Velours were the best I have ever seen.

As far as the third season Tunics I was selling yardage of the same material dyed by the same place that did it for the Production years ago

Bill Hickey’s Next Gen tunics were so close to the Originals in color Michael Dorn wondered where we got it until he picked one up way different material was used by Bill

I was referring to those two iterations of the Franchise in my initial quote

Anovos Velours were horrible in material and sizing but their third season ones were VRY nicely done

Not that easy, or someone would've done it properly a lot sooner. How many really nice TWOK-era uniforms have we seen? Very few fan-made that look right overall, and none available commercially. Same with the TNG uniforms. And the patterns and fabrics of the TOS unis are pretty hard to replicate as well, even if those have come the closest to be copied before Anovos (and the velour versions have even been bested by fans if I'm not mistaken). It's one area where they have truly excelled; most of their premiereTrek efforts have come close to tailor-quality garments, going far beyond mere 'costumes'. I've made business suits, jackets and other things... and was especially impressed by the TWK jacket and the TNG tunic. The one true 'dud' I've seen when it comes to Trek was the first Picard 'Darmok' jacket, which was completely wonky. They messed that one up completely, as if they had used an extra-short pattern for them (like, two sizes too wide for the length of the sleeves). I'm hoping they will have fixed that with the new one in all-suede, as they have promised that they used a completely new and different pattern.

 

[JOATRASH FX]

On the TOS and Next Gen, it had been done before you just had to know where to look

In recent years James Cawley and Adam Grossguth did them, and Adams Velours were the best I have ever seen.

As far as the third season Tunics I was selling yardage of the same material dyed by the same place that did it for the Production years ago

Bill Hickey’s Next Gen tunics were so close to the Originals in color Michael Dorn wondered where we got it until he picked one up way different material was used by Bill

I was referring to those two iterations of the Franchise in my initial quote

Anovos Velours were horrible in material and sizing but their third season ones were VRY nicely done

Would love to see photos of those TNG tunics if there are any. Anovos' TNG premiere was wonderfully put together- not just the color, but the wool fabric and stitching as well were near-flawless. (My only criticism would be that the shoulders were too wide, but luckily that could be adjusted.) I made a decent DS9 tunic for myself (now long-lost) with some high-quality gabardine back in the late 90s- that one wasn't too hard.

Compared to the TOS 3rd season (both standard and premiere) I agree... the velours were a drop in quality, probably in an attempt to fit a broader range of body types. But one of the main things they have done so well with the Trek stuff has been the overall build quality- very nice stitchwork with little pulling or unevenness... nice clean seams, no sloppiness. Fan-made stuff always tends to look "home made", even under the best of circumstances, when examined closely. It's disheartening to see that Anovos might be dropping in quality when it comes to that, if the Jyn Erso glove thread here on the RPF is anything to go by. It might simply be the difference between having them made in the US as opposed to China, at a much higher cost.

 

[Apollo]

Oh yeah the Premiere line of the TNG and TOS tunics were very well made in fact one can make the argument the TOS were better made than some of the Screen-used ones.

I was never really impressed with any of the TNG designs at first although that did’nt stop me from trying to figure out a way of lifting one when I was on Set lol

The Green wrap around was absolutely amazing all hand stitched and the fabric was awesomely re-created

Sad to see what Anovos has turned into

 

[Fett_Ish]

I was looking at the OT Star Trek Uniforms with the 40% off, but as I am "average man" nothing in my size. I cant get small enough and don't want to get Present Day Shatner just to wear his old shirt.

 

[Apollo]

With ANY Tunic from the TOS 9 times out of 10 you would have to have it fitted to you, just the nature of the beast

I was looking at the OT Star Trek Uniforms with the 40% off, but as I am "average man" nothing in my size. I cant get small enough and don't want to get Present Day Shatner just to wear his old shirt.

 

[ggriffaw]

I wonder if they had to change manufacturers due to the black market items that are leaking out the back doors of the factories? I've run accross a couple of items now from dodgy Facebook ads to posts in this forum that are for Anovos product for sale that was bought directly from the factory at significant discount. If that's going on (who knows why - maybe Anovos is unable to pay these factories so their recouping how they can) I can understand Anovos wanting to take the business elsewhere. Again - All speculation on my part.

Cheers
Steve

Are you sure these posts really have the product and they are what they claim to be? I have seen Anovos items on ebay with similar claims. They don't have any photos of the actual item, just stock photos from the Anovos website. I don't think the ebay listings were legitimate. One of them I remember was for the Praetorean guard helmet. The listing was probably over a year ago. The estimated delivery on the Anovos website is summer 2019. I can't believe any of these helmets were completed that long ago other than prototypes.

 

[Whiskey]

I know of weta Australia and praetorian blasters has got hold of Anovos stormtrooper kits direct from China a while back

 

[mluder]

Are you sure these posts really have the product and they are what they claim to be? I have seen Anovos items on ebay with similar claims. They don't have any photos of the actual item, just stock photos from the Anovos website. I don't think the ebay listings were legitimate. One of them I remember was for the Praetorean guard helmet. The listing was probably over a year ago. The estimated delivery on the Anovos website is summer 2019. I can't believe any of these helmets were completed that long ago other than prototypes.

I think one of the posts I saw may have been in the RPF Facebook buy sell trade page... They were legit Anovos stormtrooper kits. He had pictures showing them and it even included the poster that shipped with the originals. I doubt a knock-off would bother to reproduce that. The seller claimed they were the real deal that he was able to buy at discount directly from the manufacturer in China. I only know what he claimed.

EDIT - It was Praetorian Blasters... Here's the listing... Posterd Nov 10, 2018
"Hey guys. I bought a bunch of Anovos Stormtrooper armor kits and premium assembled Stormtrooper armor from a distributor in China. I’ve received the first wave of armor. It’s going to be first come first serve as I bought everything she had. These are in the original packaging. I’ve opened 1 to check but they are new in box.

These are in hand and will ship on the next business day"

 

[ggriffaw]

It is certainly more believable for a product like the ST armor that has already been released. I would be more concerned about items that have not officially been released yet.

 

[Halliwax]

I think one of the posts I saw may have been in the RPF Facebook buy sell trade page... They were legit Anovos stormtrooper kits. He had pictures showing them and it even included the poster that shipped with the originals. I doubt a knock-off would bother to reproduce that. The seller claimed they were the real deal that he was able to buy at discount directly from the manufacturer in China. I only know what he claimed.

EDIT - It was Praetorian Blasters... Here's the listing... Posterd Nov 10, 2018
"Hey guys. I bought a bunch of Anovos Stormtrooper armor kits and premium assembled Stormtrooper armor from a distributor in China. I’ve received the first wave of armor. It’s going to be first come first serve as I bought everything she had. These are in the original packaging. I’ve opened 1 to check but they are new in box.

These are in hand and will ship on the next business day"
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Wow....

 

[ECOLI]

Here is my two cents.
The latest kick in the shorts has been a Vader helmet I put on payment plan, paid off, then come to find out it is no longer in stock and will be another year, Winter 2019 est., before my product will maybe ship. So me like the rest of you have been burned by the lack of communication and delays. Lets also not mention the latest received product (Jyn Erso Gloves) being of less than stellar quality. I now am believing Anovos to be running a FYRE festival scam on us. I just calculated the amount of money spent on their products and it is not a small amount. Lets also add the charges for shipping and handling (all of which are separate charges) that are incurred buying their product. Assuming someone has done this already but I am going to try and reach someone in management about this (probably to no avail) but I will try. I am sure many of you have also done the same thing, but at what point can legal action/business practices be brought to justice? I am also going to file my concerns with the Partial.ly the layaway plan company about this and see what more they can do if anything. I guess my real point here is what more can we do to help them or get our products? I will say I have loved their stuff and seeing this FYRE festival burn slowly in front of me is sad to see.

 

[Whiskey]

Thankfully, every one of my purchases has been through partial.ly.

Each time I decided to get a refund, I’d copy partial.ly in an email requesting the refund.

Refunds received within 4-5 days

 

[ECOLI]

Really, that is actually a relief to hear. I am keeping the faith as much as possible but me like the rest of you are probably getting to their wits end. Will monitor this chain to see if everyone starts bailing on Anovos.

 

[cboath]

I got an add a couple days ago for ST trooper armor outfits available for pre-order....They still haven't fullfilled anything for orders taken 3 years ago.

 

[Treadwell]

interesting...
"There are many variations of the E-11 Blaster seen throughout the original Star Wars trilogy. While they are all called an "E-11," the design varies from film to film and even from scene to scene. In developing our first E-11 Stormtrooper™ Blaster Kit, we focused our attention on recreating the variant of this blaster used in the early scenes from the first film; Star Wars: A New Hope."

 

[StevenBills]

Looks cool. I'd go for it if I didn't already have a Hyperfirm E-11.

SB

 

[hampton]

I finally heard back from customer service, after being told they had to speak the Shipping Manager. It looks like the Kylo Ren Premium Helmet - I paid in full in early January 2018 - is somehow being delayed to WINTER 2019 with no email or notification and an assurance that I would receive one at the latest of March 2019. I'm over it and getting a refund - this company is a Fyre Festival scam.

"From all of the information I have gotten from my manager it does seem
like we don't have any Kylo Helmets going out with this shipment. The next
shipment is estimated to arrive for our Winter season of this year. I truly
apologize for the delay."
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Amazing how they opened another pre-order recently but, have yet to fulfill my order.

 

[Halliwax]

Man... really want the e11... but with this thread there is no way in h3ll I’m preordering...

 

[ggriffaw]

I finally heard back from customer service, after being told they had to speak the Shipping Manager. It looks like the Kylo Ren Premium Helmet - I paid in full in early January 2018 - is somehow being delayed to WINTER 2019 with no email or notification and an assurance that I would receive one at the latest of March 2019. I'm over it and getting a refund - this company is a Fyre Festival scam.

"From all of the information I have gotten from my manager it does seem
like we don't have any Kylo Helmets going out with this shipment. The next
shipment is estimated to arrive for our Winter season of this year. I truly
apologize for the delay."
​

Amazing how they opened another pre-order recently but, have yet to fulfill my order.

Is the recently opened preorder you refer to for another product? If so different products may not have any impact on the production of other products. Anovos uses multiple factories for different types of products. Even if the recent preorder was for the same product, with the long lead times those preorders will probably be delivered long after yours.

Yes the delays are frustrating, but that has been the track record for many of their products. If paying up front for a product that may be delayed is a big issue, I wouldn't recommend placing a preorder with Anovos. Some vendors like Entertainment Earth let you place preorders but do not charge you until the product arrives.

A preorder placed with Anovos = a long wait with very likely one or more delays

However the comparisons to things like the Fyre festival are exaggerated. Anovos takes a long time, but they have delivered many products.

 

[ggriffaw]

Man... really want the e11... but with this thread there is no way in h3ll I’m preordering...

If you don't mind waiting and most likely having a delay or two, there isn't much reason to expect issues. Generally the products I have received are fine quality wise. I know some people have had issues with quality but I don't think that is typical of their products. The biggest issue is the long wait and inaccurate shipping estimates.