ANOVOS issues (ANOVOS ONLY discussion)

It hurts to watch you guys go through all this... I don't have a dog in this fight, but the only experience I have with waiting on a run is 3 months for a DEC run of DL-44 kits. Which seemed like an eternity at the time. If I got twitchy Dave would answer an email in a few hours and the day he said it would arrive it was there. I will freakin' never buy anything in this hobby sight unseen again... except from Dave... 'cause he's the shnizzle :)
 
When asked if images of the final (TK) product would be shown before shipment they replied "Due to the holiday season and the fact that shipments will probably begin around the same time that the final production piece reaches our photographer, this isn't likely."

I find it a little unsettling that the first look at the final product will be when it lands on our doorsteps.
 
When asked if images of the final (TK) product would be shown before shipment they replied "Due to the holiday season and the fact that shipments will probably begin around the same time that the final production piece reaches our photographer, this isn't likely."

I find it a little unsettling that the first look at the final product will be when it lands on our doorsteps.

If you're nervous you can always back out... if you're t1 ill buy it off you.
 
Oh my god people. Just ask for a refund if you are so annoyed. If you want an immediate deliver, only order AFTER they are shipping. That's the whole concept of preorder, and they have to get Disney to approve the items, which is notoriously one of the worst approval processes.
 
Oh my god people. Just ask for a refund if you are so annoyed. If you want an immediate deliver, only order AFTER they are shipping. That's the whole concept of preorder, and they have to get Disney to approve the items, which is notoriously one of the worst approval processes.


NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I will wait,...I will hang in there,... and I WILL complain the whole way. Hi ho,..hi ho,..I complain as I go, do do do do,....do do do.

I actually I don't have an order with Anovos but seriously,..I think some complaining is justified.

I am hoping to get a bunch of Anovos stuff down the line so hopefully they will get their act together.

Hi, ho.

Tom

BTW anyone want to ditch their Tier 1 Stormy I will buy it off you. Don't cancel please!!!!!!!!
 
Some companies announce pre-sales just to get an idea of how the product will sell, then, if the pre-orders smell like potential sales, then they will actually begin making the product. Of course, if the pre-orders are not forthcoming, then they cancel the item; and sometimes they "forget" to return the money on the few pre-orders they do get.

The other scenario is, of course, manufacturing delays. Items made in China (and isn't everything?) have been a bit iffy for the last few years because of economic issues and also manufacturers holding orders for ransom and demanding higher prices.

The third scenario is that the manufacturer decides to "dumb down" the product from the agreed upon standard of materials and build to eke out a little more profit. This can be a huge hit to the seller when they get a big shipment of substandard items that they were ready to put into the fulfillment department, and now can't because the merchandise, as delivered, is crap.

A lot of companies would rather hide their head in the sand rather than admit problems. Of course, boutique or garage manufacturers are not under these constraints, they are just affected by their own personal problems (which we are more than finished enjoying hearing, "Sorry, life got in the way of your order, It will be in the mail next week", then nothing but more Crickets chirping in the high grass ...
 
That is why I posted earlier there IS NO immediate delivery.

Again I ordered Nov.30 for IN STOCK items and as of today they still have NO CLUE as when it will ship AND their fufillment center is now done by a third party.


 
Yup! Got confirmation my FO helmet is shipping by the end of the month! Woot! Those saying they'll never deliver a product, stick it!
 
Yup! Got confirmation my FO helmet is shipping by the end of the month! Woot! Those saying they'll never deliver a product, stick it!

yes everyone can suck it for pre ordering items way before the first order helmet came out. I just hope the first order helmet is not some shoddy rushed item shipping early just to appease the masses :D
 
If any one here is a fan of tested the current "This is only a Test" video has a Anovos FO helmet on display it looks pretty nice.
 
I do not think you have a handle on what people are trying to say here. I know my posts have nothing to do with that.

There are some who do. You? I don't know, but I've read enough comments from people in multiple forums and media saying they'll never deliver anything. They are not EFX. They are no where in the same league as EFX.
 
MJF, for what it's worth, I get your point.
But sci-fi fans are so used to the 'startup operation' concept of money first and product someday down the line, I, too, wanna bang my head against a wall for how much the fans now are willing to put up with.
Bottom line for professional prop copy companies? Shoulder the costs, make the product, then I'll buy. That's how it works for everyone else.
Otherwise, pass.
This is not an anovos issue, its not a replica prop license issue... this happens in all industries...
No, it doesn't. I can't think of any other 'industry' where this kickstarter method of production is so common. Yes, you wait for other companies to come out with a product, but it's not nearly as common to take pre-orders for said product as the primary method of ordering.
My beef with Anovos has never been that they take forever to deliver anything; it's that in many cases I've seen that's the only way to you'll ever get one. The only items of their I have come from people who pre-ordered several and I bought them from them.
I think that among sci-fi types, we're all so used to that, that we don't get how insane it sounds as a business model (if you wanna call it that).
"Hey, it's a small company," Not my problem. They'll take my money just as fast as a big company.
"But that's how it works for sci-fi stuff," Not my problem. People who argue this have simply gotten used to paying first and watching their kids grow up while they're waiting. Not me.
"They got to fund the production somehow,"Not my problem. A normal business model is you invest in your supplies (often with a bank loan for startups), manufacturing and such, then you make the stuff, sell it, then recover the losses and what you have left is your profit. If you can't grasp how everyone else makes stuff, maybe you shouldn't be in a business?
"But they're fans, too," So not my problem. They're not a non-profit, I can assure you of that. They don't give me a discount if I use the stuff to visit children hospitals, so why do I owe them any slack?
 
Then don't preorder EVER. That doesn't make it a bad business model. Everyone needs to face the fact that there will never be a company like MR ever again. That business model was unsustainable and many people don't even realize that their edition sizes were a lie. Anyone find it odd that their product would "sell out" then they would find some more? Prop replicas are an expensive business and even large companies make very little off of them. Preordering is about the only way this thing works anymore.

Not to mention that Anovos has an ENTIRE page called "How Anovos Works" with the headline "What's with the waiting time and why buy early." If you don't understand, then there is nothing for you.
 
I can't think of any other 'industry' where this kickstarter method of production is so common.

I was referring to the delays that happen in all industries during product development. I was referring to the fact that usually its not even visible within companies except to a known few individuals. I was not inferring that many companies use anovos' business model, just to the fact that all companies in all industries face these same delays and issues. The only difference is that it's noticeable/visible to us because of anovos' business model.

If you don't like it, deal with it. Don't pre-order, hope that there's stock available once production has finished.

Or here's an idea, stop your bitching and build a better company with better product that uses a "better" business model. No one is stopping you.
 
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