Advice on Repairing my newly acquired MR AT-AT

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  1. shenphong

    shenphong Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    I recently acquired a MR AT-AT that is in need of some work. Picked up this beauty for a measly $150 and plan to dremel out the front guns to repair/replace them as well as finding the other little bits here and there to fix this guy up. I'll also be building a custom base for it but will need some advice as to the bolt size that is needed for the legs (I was unaware that it looks like the MR AT-AT had screws going into the feet). Can anyone tell me the colors/paints used on these guys? I'll be searching along as I go on for the parts to repair him, but wondering if it would be better to try to find casts of the parts, or actually use the donor parts to slap onto him...not exactly sure as I've read in several posts and forums that "studio scale" was a broad term for the AT-AT. Here are some shots to show the beast off as well as to show what work needs to be done...with the repair and replacement parts, I feel like a full "redo" will need to be done on the paint work as it seems weathering was lacking on the LE version compared to the signature.

    I wished someone told me how heavy thing thing was too and how odd it was to carry one around...walked around San Jose and Berkeley the entire day with the thing and got nothing but odd stares, questions, and sometimes unwanted attention.:lol

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  2. 3phase

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  3. crackerjazz

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    Wow, you're so lucky!!!! - just $150. Was it a second-hand shop?
     
  4. jedimaster

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    I feel terrible for you.... Look as a favor I'll take it off your hands for $300.

    Seriously though, should be an easy fix. Kitparts for the guns. And cast up the existing parts for the missing detail. Maybe ask Julien about the guns.
     
  5. jedimaster

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    Spam, spam , spam......
     
  6. asemblyrequired

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    150 bucks ....crap.

    -James
     
  7. shenphong

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    lol wth sherry...how did my thread get hit with the spam...basically I will just be making the ladder parts out of styrene, casting the toe and feet sections and planning to try and get the kit parts for the guns while I dremel out what I can for the chin guns and the rear butt plate (although I would not mind it if someone else had a cast of these parts as well as I'm going to try to keep it economical) . Can anyone tell me what size the screws on the bottom of the feet are? Not exactly wanting to bring this thing into a home depot and figuring it out.
     
  8. shenphong

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    I'll also be checking today if the seller has anymore. Months back, he did have ones that were near perfect condition for $600-800 with minor paint blemishes apparently.
     
  9. asemblyrequired

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    I would like one one of these days just to make a wrecked ATAT . It is so plain just standing there to me.

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  10. TK9120

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    It is plain but it looks so cool just standing there. Would be nice to add the snow background to it.
     
  11. shenphong

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    Planning to actually, something for the base anyways. I have an action fleet snowspeeder just ordered as well, so going to try to make a fairly decent display base and get this thing top top shape for under $300.
     
  12. TK9120

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    Good luck. I think you'll be able to do it.
     
  13. tk1608

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    Dunno if this helps..I did this on my ATATron kit..
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    I made it from plastic tubing and tamiya flakveirling guns.
    As for the main guns I don't know what kit they were made from, but it looks like it could've been another tamiya tank kit that was used. As said above, Julien might know more, or perhaps you could ask Lee.
    You should be able to replace the broken detail on the side of the hull with some plastruct "angle" pieces, and I reckon the toes could be cast fairly easily if you can pop one of them off to throw some rubber on it..

    Good luck

    Cheers

    Phil
     
  14. dirtydave

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    I believe Julien said the main guns are from the Tamiya 1/35 Sturmgeshuetz III Ausf G.

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  15. Treadwell

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    Replace the guns and the "toe" flap, sure, but personally I wouldn't patch up the chips to the plating and details. Battle damage.
     
  16. shenphong

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    I've actually got the mold started for the toe (small piece, but removing a toe was a pain in the butt!) and will be casting 2 of them as one is fairly cracked through. I've got some correct sized bolts for the bottom of the feet too and my action fleet snowspeeder is on delivery. Just need to figure out what to do with the base or go with a similar design to the MR SE base.

    There are some chips and knicks on the body of the At-At but really, nothing noticeable, however those missing ladder pieces, I feel like I really need to replace. I went ahead and bought some L shape plastruct pieces at my nearest hobby shop and they seem to fit the bill nicely, although I also was able to pry one of the pieces off with a mini flat head screw driver and was also thinking of casting it for the exact approach. Will post up pictures soon.

    Big question is on paint. I have about 34 tabs open in firefox on studio scale and MR At-Ats but not very many of them on "matching" paint to MR's paint. I'm hoping to add some more weathering to it but will probably avoid a full rework on the paint, does anyone have any recommendations on matching the color to the MR AT-AT? Still trying to keep this in budget for a finished project (will need to find a person to make a acrylic case for it too) so will be posting up a wtb ad soon in the junkyard for molds or parts for the replacement at-at guns.
     
  17. 3phase

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    Personally i would do something like what i did with the miniatures above. I know there probably half the size but i only used 1.2mm mig wire and it holds up the snowspeeder no worries. If you used a high tensile wire it should work on something bigger. Also not sure if anyone’s done that with a studio scale size AT-AT so would be something different to the MR etc.
     
  18. MonsieurTox

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    Dave is correct :) (the vintage issue)

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  19. tk1608

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    I once repaired an MR ATAT gun for someone on here, and used tamiya XF19 sky grey. I never had the whole model to match to, just the gun, but it looked ok when I'd done it, and the fella never complained..
    If you intend to airbrush it you should be able to blend it in if it's fairly close in shade, and with some weathering over that, it should look ok. Your model looks quite light to me here, so you can always add some white to it...

    I have an MR snowspeeder and that colour looks close to humbrol light gull grey. It's sort of a warmer grey shade than the tamiya colour. The humbrol might be too warm a shade though....it's hard to say for certain with either colour, but it's something you could look at..

    Cheers

    Phil
     
  20. shenphong

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    Thanks, its a good start and I even have humbrol light gull grey! Flak gun has been ordered for the cheek guns and a metal barrel 1/35 has been ordered for the chin guns. I'll be casting the chin gun from that metal barrel (cheapest option I could find aside from plunking down $40 for the tank kit just for the gun on this repair job) and will be cutting it down and molding it to what's left of the chin guns. Part of the housing on one of the cheek guns are also snapped away but I have an idea to repair it to replicate it to the other one that is somewhat intact. I even have a template set up for the belly armor on the right side which should match pretty closely.

    The last piece of the puzzle is this piece:
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    I'd like to avoid scratching that piece if it does come from another kit. What kit could that possibly be from?
     
  21. jkno

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    The interesting thing is that the old Action Fleet Snowspeeders are very close in scale to the small studio scale crashed Snowspeeder from the AT-AT SE version.

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  22. shenphong

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    jkno, are those your pics? I found them randomly on google images and it gave me the entire idea of using it. If so Thank you! Aside from switching some things out and giving it a repaint, possibly reworking the cockpit hatch, that action fleet fighter fits the bill.

    I used to own a action fleet snowspeeder back when I was a kid and surprised I'll be owning them again for different purposes. Already have one, I'll be looking to buy another for a display I have in mind.
     
  23. shenphong

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    Thanks Julien,

    I actually foudn that pic and the info on it on a past thread you had made. I was lucky enough to find the kit locally (a buddy of mine runs a online model store :)) so getting the early ver. vintage kit was fairly easy. What I did not like was the price, although I know thats the whole deal with getting donor parts.

    I ended up getting a 1/35 metal barrel replacement kit for it and plan to cast it in resin while reinforcing it with a brass rod. I received the metal barrel replacement for $5 so it couldn't hurt to give it a try rather than paying $40 for the one tank kit.

    My question is, aside from the flak gun parts on the cheek guns, are the rest of the parts "built" or were they also from other donor kits? I also scored the flak guns for $7 so those will be easy enough to work with but wondering what else go with them. Also, can you assist me in identifying that rear plate pieces that is circled in red in my picture? I am having the hardest time going through threads trying to identify it.

     
  24. Junk Pilot

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    I'd stilll like to know how you got this for the price you did. Was it an Ebay thing or on a forum somewhere?
     
  25. shenphong

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    It was actually craigslist. The guy sold about 7 of them total. Half on ebay, half on craigslist. I'll try to find his screen name again from ebay but when I found it, it was on craigslist. His feedback was something like 13 positive with no other feedback and had rarely ever used ebay. He sold 3-4 MINT AT-AT MR just the AT-AT, no box, stands, etc. for around $700-800.

    When I found this, it was just a random search on craigslist and I checked on ebay to see if it was on there. He also had a scuffed up MR AOTC Anakin lightsaber, 2 MR Mace Windu lightsabers scuffed up and missing the black rubber textured portions, and some damaged GG busts. He mentioned this was his last AT-AT as it was the only one in that condition he could get. It looks like he tried to repair some of the parts himself as there are globs of glue on parts that appeared to have completely cracked off. His story of its origin was that he knew a warehouse guy who purchased a number of the "returned/damaged" items for resale online and to just keep. I've talked to him off and on (college aged kid looking to get back into school...I work for a local college he was considering going to) and it does not seem he'll be getting anymore in.
     
  26. shenphong

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    First kit in, the flak gun...surprised to see so many familiar pieces on here. I know people have said this kit has to be one of the most used kits in the models, but it's surprising how much it actually is. Did not realize those side armor pieces were also used on the rear of the AT-AT.

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  27. jkno

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    Indeed those are my pics with my AT-AT SE. :)
     
  28. MonsieurTox

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    On the cheek guns there are also parts from the 1/700 HMS Nelson, and probably some other parts for the "body" of the guns but I havent ID'ed them yet.

    As for the rear upper armor plate I think they used vacformed styrene, mold it and cast it...
     
  29. shenphong

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    Thanks for the info Julien, I was pointed towards the 1/700 HMS Nelson last nite (was also told a number of its parts go on the super star destroyer) And got it ordered. Not quite sure which parts on the Nelson go on the side guns though. Do you have a source for clean pictures of the AT-AT cheek guns? That rear upper plate armor looks like will be a scratchbuilding project for the weekend. Not too hard, but was really hoping to find some more donor parts for this guy.
     
  30. shenphong

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    Anyone able to give me a helping hand and measure the length and width of the chin guns?

    Looking for the measurements for the parts with the red line:

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