Accurate Superman Movie Costume COMPLETE! Pics up!!

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  1. Martin-El

    Martin-El Well-Known Member

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    Extensively researched from Yvonne Blake's original design and referenced from all four movies.

    The basic tunic;
    <img src=http://helphydinout.onestop.net/superpics/tunic.jpg>

    Basic elements (lycra tunic & tights, Wool Gaberdine cape)
    <img src=http://helphydinout.onestop.net/superpics/elements.jpg>

    The belt is the most difficult part to source. The buckle pod is a resin pull from the Reeve original.
    <img src=http://helphydinout.onestop.net/superpics/belt.jpg>


    Assembled but unrefined;
    <img src=http://helphydinout.onestop.net/superpics/assembledun.jpg>


    And composite with cape;
    <img src=http://helphydinout.onestop.net/superpics/composite.jpg>


    Will post more pics as suit develops!
     
  2. hydin

    hydin Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    looking great so far!

    are you going to put it on a mannequin to display later?

    chris
     
  3. Martin-El

    Martin-El Well-Known Member

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    Umph - Probably - but in the meantime it has been made to measure for my tubby *. With the rest of my collection I reckon it'll look teriffic...

    And thanks for the kind words!
     
  4. blufive

    blufive Sr Member

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    That looks great!
     
  5. mickkk1969

    mickkk1969 New Member

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    That looks * near perfect.Congratulations!

    MH
     
  6. The Mantis

    The Mantis Sr Member

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    That is PERFECT!
     
  7. DAVIDYR1

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    That's pretty cool....I wish I made fabric costumes!!! I'd have soooo much fun with stuff like that!!!

    OHH well...cant do everything!!!hahahahah

    Great stuff!

    David
     
  8. pinder91

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    that looks great! i want to make one of those so bad. hhhmmm... gotta go see if mom's busy next week. [​IMG]
     
  9. Aeon

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    Cool! Awesome work dude!
     
  10. Darius Alucard

    Darius Alucard Sr Member

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    Looks great!

    How is the cape attatched?
     
  11. Martin-El

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    Wow - thanks for your response guys!

    The cape will eventually be attached as in the movie - with press studs on the shoulders and a long strap that ties under the armpits and round the back. It needs that much support as it is extremely heavy and the original even has backing to pad the shoulders out. I've seen the original a few times (In Planet Hollywood and suchlike) and you'd be amazed by how poorly it's thrashed together. The Belt has gaffer tape backing and buckle is attached with paper fasteners!
    Mine is nearly there but needs lots of refinement. I'm most picky about the 'S' symbol - as the original was stitched into (as opposed to onto) the tunic and the red and yellow pieces hace to interlock and match perfectly. This is the biggest nightmare. Will post more pics tonite!!!!!
     
  12. streetjudge79

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    I pm'd you , did you get it?
    Steve
     
  13. Martin-El

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    I got it - backatcha.

    Here are a few more shots for comparision -
    You'll see the years have not been kind to this original Reeve suit (as displayed in Planet Hollywood, FL) But Jeez - gave me shivers to know the man himself strut funky in it.

    So, the original form Superman; The Movie as modelled by what looks like a decapitated T-1000
    <img src=http://helphydinout.onestop.net/superpics/t1000.jpg>

    Another shot of my version (note the colours!)
    <img src=http://helphydinout.onestop.net/superpics/mine.jpg>

    Work in progress of my cape and the appliqued 'S' symbol (drawn but not yet embriodered)
    [​IMG]

    Closeup of the original belt (probably a victim of Lois repeated grappling)
    <img src=http://helphydinout.onestop.net/superpics/beltup.jpg>

    And Finally mine - note the beltloops are far from finished and Margot Kidder is welcome to grapple me all she likes...
    <img src=http://helphydinout.onestop.net/superpics/beltcomp.jpg>


    Comments & questions welcome, fellas.
     
  14. MattMunson

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    Looks awesome so far. This is something I've considered doing for YEARS! Any chance for a tutorial on how you did the chest symbol, or the cape applique???
     
  15. Magic Man

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    Oh I gotta have one!

    Brad
     
  16. replicaprops

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    Im pretty sure superman wore a cup
     
  17. Aeon

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    Yup, Reeve wore a specially made cup to avoid having his manhood move around and giving off the wrong impression [​IMG]

    Gel- That is one freaking cool costume! It's almost impossible to tell that was a replica. You nailed the color too! Check mine out [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
    Original costume is on the left and mine is on the right. You can see how close he's gotten. [​IMG]
    Thanks WC for hosting!!!!
     
  18. Victorious-Jay

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    Incredible! Keep us posted. -Jay
     
  19. Martin-El

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    Actually - I'm pleased you brought that up -
    Any sources on getting a cup?
    Reeve wore metal codpieces but I'd prefer to go the plastic route. I already bought a jockstrap type thingy but the problem is everything like buttons etc. show straight through the lycra. It needs to be shaped trunks with a cup built in.
    Any suggestions guys?
     
  20. propsculptor

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    I have the Book on the "Making of Superman the Movie" and I know they mentioned the different cups they used.

    I'll dig it out and let you know.

    I know in interviews Margot Kidder kept flicking the Codpieces with her finger just for fun, Christopher Reeve Didn't find it as funny!
     
  21. Primrodo

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    The cup I used on halloween was petty useful....it was shorts and the cup it self was attached at teh top to the top of the shorts.

    Perhaps if you do something similar?
     
  22. Martin-El

    Martin-El Well-Known Member

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    Sounds promising -
    Where from and is there a link?
     
  23. Aeon

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  24. propsculptor

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    </SPAN><TABLE BORDER=0 ALIGN=CENTER WIDTH=85%><TR><TD CLASS=$row_color>Quote:<HR></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS=$row_color> Bananas also reported that for Superman, Clark Kent had 25 bodysuits and six capes to change in and out of. The costumes all had different functions. Some were designed to look great while Superman stood; others were designed for sitting, leaping, flying, or coming in for a landing. The flying cape had hidden wires so that Reeve can be held up by a 100 foot crane and so that it could billow even when there was no wind. Reeve also told Dynamite about the Superman costume: "In Superman, I had 40 Superman suits. I had to change into a fresh one every time the one I was wearing got wrinkled or sweaty. After a few hours under the broiling lights on the set, Reeve would sweat heavily in the Superman costume and reveal large, rapidly spreading perspiration stains under his arms when he stretched into the flying position. The problem was easily solved when the make-up department recommended some industrial-strength antiperspirant, and added extra lining and dress shields under the arms of Reeve's costumes. Sweaty underarms weren't the only problems Reeve was having with the famous clothes. According to Petrou, the supertight red tank-suit pants he wore over the blue leotard revealed some obvious bulges-and not always in the same place. This problem was easily solved when costume designer Yvonne Blake ordered a large swimmer's cap to be worn under the pants, an idea executive producer Ilya Salkind liked because he thought it would enhance the supermacho image of Superman. Blake also told Petrou about Reeve's costume, "I read somewhere that Chris is supposed to have twenty-five different costumes and six or seven special capes-for flying, crouching, leaping, sitting, standing, whatever. Actually, the number's probably higher than that. Mainly, that's where the wardrobe expense comes in, on all the doubles and duplicates and special-effects needs."</TD></TR><TR><TD><HR></TD></TR></TABLE><SPAN CLASS=$row_color>

    Very detailed article, thanks Aeon!

    Didn't someone here on the boards offer DVDs of the Making of Superman?
     
  25. jt001

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    You can see the real deal at Warner Bros Studios. The S on the back was poorly created and attached and the boots were closed on the back with velcro, if my mind serves me well.

    No pics were permitted, tho [​IMG]
     
  26. Aeon

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    I would certainly like to see any pics of real costumes as they are today. I personally never saw an original in person, so pics are always fun to look through [​IMG]

    JT- What do you mean by the S on the back being poorly made? What was wrong with it?
     
  27. jt001

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    Well, I can't remember very well, but it looked like it was made by a 5 year old kid in art class. [​IMG] It was poorly cut on the edges. It looked pretty cheap in person [​IMG]
     
  28. irishjedi

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    I believe dancers wear something called a "dance belt" that is like a cup, but shows no buttons, seams, etc. Might give that a try.
     
  29. forceofvader

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  30. streetjudge79

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    I wore just a regular cup in this signature photo and it did not show at all. I picked it up at sports authority.
    <img src=http://members.aol.com/caspid/super.jpg>
     
  31. Martin-El

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    Thanks for the link - that looks like a real contender.
    You're right about the yellow 'S' too, not only was it poorly done but it is and ENTIRELY DIFFERENT SHAPE than the chest symbol - this means it's back to the drawing board for my cape template...
    I'll post more pix of the original so you can see just how haphazard it is...
     
  32. Martin-El

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    A few more comparisons for your reference -
    Notice how the colours of the suit are never truly blue. I thought I'd made a mistake with mine at first (as I followed some advice and went for TEAL.) But it does photograph a nice blue. Even the flying miniatures were dressed nicely...
    <img src=http://helphydinout.onestop.net/superpics/flyingmini.jpg>


    Notice the little poles sticking out from it's back? They even built a miniature cape flapping device!!

    The costume used in Madame Tussauds in London utilized an original costume but lighter cape (as a wind machine blew underneath to raise it..Apparently this waxwork is STILL THERE.
    <img src=http://helphydinout.onestop.net/superpics/wax.jpg>

    And this is the costume as hung originally in Planet Hollywood...
    <img src=http://helphydinout.onestop.net/superpics/planeth.jpg>

    I think Margot Kidder must be reading this - she's appearing at a signing in my hometown the end of the month - her first in the UK. Shame the suit won't be ready but I'll already be giddy just seeing her!!!
     
  33. Aeon

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    The costume (although I've never seen a real one) seems to have a color range from a peacock blue to a teal or even a shade of green. I bet that the differences in the blues are one of two; either it's been exposed to light and the color has faded, or the costume was made from a different brand of material. Not all blues are the same, so that would make a difference.
     
  34. SG1 Trooper

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    GELForever wrote:
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    I got it - backatcha.

    Here are a few more shots for comparision -
    You'll see the years have not been kind to this original Reeve suit (as displayed in Planet Hollywood, FL) But Jeez - gave me shivers to know the man himself strut funky in it.

    So, the original form Superman; The Movie as modelled by what looks like a decapitated T-1000
    [​IMG]

    Another shot of my version (note the colours!)
    [​IMG]

    Work in progress of my cape and the appliqued 'S' symbol (drawn but not yet embriodered)
    [​IMG]

    Closeup of the original belt (probably a victim of Lois repeated grappling)
    [​IMG]

    And Finally mine - note the beltloops are far from finished and Margot Kidder is welcome to grapple me all she likes...
    [​IMG]

    Comments & questions welcome, fellas.




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    I wanted to say WOW! great costume! I have a Superman cape that was made based off of the same patterns as the original. I love my cape. When i get on my feet, i will complete my costume. Your suite is fantastic! I am interested in getting a suite from you. Thanks.
     
  35. propsculptor

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    SG1 Trooper wrote:
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    GELForever wrote:
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    Closeup of the original belt (probably a victim of Lois repeated grappling)
    [​IMG]
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    Anyone know what the Belt was made of?

    I can see in this pic that there is a whitish or lite Gray material as the backing.
     
  36. Kittlemeier

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    I thought the teal suits were made so they stood out against the blue screen for flying scenes and then color adjusted afterward. The hero costumes were blue from what I remember. Could be wrong though, K
     
  37. Aeon

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    propsculptor-Belt is vinyl and the buckle is resin. Everything was then painted with yellow spray paint.

    The suits were never blue. It was peacock blue at best, most of the time teal and the suits on the blue screen were literally green.
     
  38. propsculptor

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    Aeon,

    Thanks I appreciate the information.
     
  39. Aeon

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    Here's the S emblem I took off from one of the pics. It's not stretched out like when it's worn, but flat and just as is when the costume is laid out flat.

    [​IMG]
    Thanks WC for hosting!

    Andy
     
  40. propsculptor

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    Here are Cup details for the suit from "The making of Superman the movie:
    by David Michael Petrou",
    "Yvonne Blake ordered a Large Swimmer's Cup to be worn under the pants,
    to hide some obvious protuberances".

    Here's a question:
    What is the size of the Cape that Superman wears?

    From a scene in the first film I figure that it is somewhere between 96 inches and 102 inches across on the bottom of the cape.

    Anyone have an opinion on this?

    Another question:
    Was the cape just one solid piece of fabric or more than one piece sewn together?
     
  41. Aeon

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    The cape is one giant sheet. Depending on which cape you're talking about, the shape of the cape varies and so do the measurements. The most favorable cape is probably the walking/hero cape and that's likea semi circle cut, spands about 9ft wide and is a few inches over 4ft long. Despite common knowledge about the pleats... The hero cape has 4 pleats on each side.
     
  42. misterfusion

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    Gel, the suit looks great so far! You keep right on lavishing those details!

    You say you referenced Yvonne Blake's original design. Where did you come by that reference material?

    On a sadder note...it KILLS me to see the condition of some of those costumes!

    Here's a pic of my friend's original Supes outfit. When it's not on display, it's in storage.
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    And here's my original cape. It's 49" from collar to bottom. There's cotton batting and shoulder pads sewn into back and shoulder areas of the cape to fill it out.
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    You'd think the people who display costumes and props as a way to entice customers to patronize their businesses (Planet Hollywood, Theme Parks, etc.) would lavish a little more care on the items they're displaying...lazy, short-sighted, money-grubbing ba$tard$. ("Don't mince words, Bones. What do you really think?" [​IMG])

    Steve
     
  43. Aeon

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    MisterFusion- did you get my PM? I need your help asap bro.

    Andy
     
  44. misterfusion

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    Just getting back on the board after being gone for the weekend. Hitting the PM's now [​IMG]

    Steve
     
  45. propsculptor

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    misterfusion wrote:
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    Here's a pic of my friend's original Supes outfit. When it's not on display, it's in storage.
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    Steve
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    Anyone know the actual size of the chest and cape logos?

    I think that they are 12" across, but I have not had the chance
    to see a Real Reeve Costume in person (I wish I had)!

    The Boots in the pic look really plastic!!
     
  46. Aeon

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    Boots are form fitting leather. To date, no one seems to have made an accurate pair of boots. [​IMG] Oh man... What I would give to get a good replica or those originals!!

    The S emblems are about the same size. The one on the chest is spandex, so it stretches with the body, but mostly vertically. The S on cape is basically 11" wide and 7.5" long. I never saw a complete original costume in person, but I have seen a screen used cape before. If I had to guess, I'd say the chest and cape emblem are the same size.

    Propsculptor- PMed ya.

    Andy
     
  47. propsculptor

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    Here is a pic I found on the Internet doing a search:

    [​IMG]

    The person who has this on their website said it was a George Reeves costume, obviously they were mistaken!
     
  48. Aeon

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    Thats a Superman 4 suit. I'm pretty sure [​IMG]
    George Reeves? [​IMG] I wonder where that suit is located...
     
  49. misterfusion

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    And, there were different boots to be shot at different angles.

    The main boots had velcro running along the back seam, but they also had boots with front and side closures as well. The boots were shot only showing one or two sides at a time so you couldn't see how they closed.

    Steve
     
  50. Aeon

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    Steve- The boots never had zippers correct? I'm still trying to answer that one... Interesting factoid you got there though. [​IMG] This thread keeps getting more useful with every post.

    Andy
     

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