AA case begins
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Jumpin Jax
Sr Member
Yeah, darn all those facts and ideals. I really must find a way to not care about them. Wasn't long ago you carried a fair amount of water for the guy Art, rustling up pics to prove his every point, so I find it a little hard to take that as even criticism.
And thanks to Jez, for proving that dishonesty doesn't matter if you're just repeating it. Over and over. It's funny that you state that AA's a liar, but 99% of what was communicated here came through you. How.....exactly does that not make you responsible?
Heck, did you even apologize for playing his advocate?
I'm not worried in the least, when it comes down to it I know AA will toss you on the grill to help break his fall. Because I'm betting he lied about that too.:thumbsup
Star Wars Helmets
Sr Member
Jumpin Jax - you have no opinion of your own. Only TE's. Unless you have something constructive to add to this thread then please walk away from the keyboard.
I'm getting tired of dull rants, hell even your last threat sounded like it was from Matt - are you sure he's not over your shoulder, like some "Back seat" typist :lol
Cheers
Jez
I'm getting tired of dull rants, hell even your last threat sounded like it was from Matt - are you sure he's not over your shoulder, like some "Back seat" typist :lol
Cheers
Jez
Star Wars Helmets
Sr Member
Back on subject...
I personally cant see how there were any other sets of armour.
In John Mollo's final budget for the movie, 50 sets of Stormtroopers were budgeted (and paid for). In addition SDS had earlier invoiced "Star Wars Productions Ltd" for 50 sets of Stormtrooper Armour - plus later invoices for 50 sets of "belt boxes", "knee boxes/caps" .
If Elstree had made any set of armour, then I would have expected them to have been accounted for (and charged/paid - even if "internal") and thus reflected in Mollo's overall budget.
Cheers
Jez
I personally cant see how there were any other sets of armour.
In John Mollo's final budget for the movie, 50 sets of Stormtroopers were budgeted (and paid for). In addition SDS had earlier invoiced "Star Wars Productions Ltd" for 50 sets of Stormtrooper Armour - plus later invoices for 50 sets of "belt boxes", "knee boxes/caps" .
If Elstree had made any set of armour, then I would have expected them to have been accounted for (and charged/paid - even if "internal") and thus reflected in Mollo's overall budget.
Cheers
Jez
Jumpin Jax
Sr Member
Seeing that you played Howdy Doody for AA for years, again I see no insightful criticism there
On with the FACTS.
Additionally, if we agreed that often, I would have been banned years ago:lol
Art, I wanna make up. Clean slate. Buy ya a beer, whattaya say?
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Star Wars Helmets
Sr Member
Seeing that you played Howdy Doody for AA for years, again I see no insightful criticism there
On with the FACTS.
Additionally, if we agreed that often, I would have been banned years ago:lol
But its okay for you to continue being Howdy Doody for TE? :lol
I've just given a good reason as to why there were 50 sets of armour used for the movie and according to the paperwork SDS made them.
You on the other hand have offered......nothing. .
Cheers
Jez
Brian Muir
Well-Known Member
There is no doubt that Ainsworth invoiced for 50 stormtroopers and was paid as I have also seen a copy of his invoice.
Also there is no doubt that several suits were made at Elstree as I saw them and this was also confirmed recently by a plasterer who also worked on ANH (whether you would have expected them to be accounted for in the budget or not).
I don't think that you or Ainsworth would ever had access to John Mollo's accounts as he is only accountable to the producers from 20th Century Fox.
Brian
Brian Muir
Well-Known Member
Seeing as Brian is here:cool
I wondered if he can shaed any light onto this set.
I "borrowed this pic" long before any contrary info went up, so it's ok:angel
could this be an early elstree set?
I don't know what this is - it certainly isn't anything I sculpted. There was no prototype made so your guess is as good as mine :confused
Jumpin Jax
Sr Member
Not bad for "some guy.":thumbsup
GINO
Sr Member
That's an original suit, just not put together properly.
A bicept piece for the right forearm, knee belts in place of the shoulder connectors, a helmet without lenses. Someone clearly didn't know what they were doing while scrapping together costume pieces for the shoot.
It was taken ANH era as in the rest of the photo you can see the other ANH costumes.
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A bicept piece for the right forearm, knee belts in place of the shoulder connectors, a helmet without lenses. Someone clearly didn't know what they were doing while scrapping together costume pieces for the shoot.
It was taken ANH era as in the rest of the photo you can see the other ANH costumes.
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Jumpin Jax
Sr Member
bagpus3
Well-Known Member
many thanks Brian:thumbsup
GINO could you please elaborate? I would like to get to the bottom of this
Star Wars Helmets
Sr Member
Hi Brian,
I'm not disagreeing with you. Personally I find it very interesting if there were some additional sets made - I'm just after the facts the same as everyone else.
However I have seen John Mollo's Art book and accounts for the production. He was quite open about it when I visited him and it clearly stated 50 sets. As to whether Ainsworth has seen them or not I have no idea and have no interest in that.
But I certainly wouldnt discount anything - maybe there was no charge as it was an "internal" cost within Elstree.
Cheers
Jez
Too Much Garlic
Master Member
Probably from this photo shoot. Looks like the guy at the rear right.
From http://www.starwarsarchives.com/ - the "1977 - promotion - photoshoots" section.
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Brian Muir
Well-Known Member
Exactly Jez - they would have been budgeted against the Art Dept for the sculpt and the Construction Dept for the making of moulds and tools.
Brian
Brian
Star Wars Helmets
Sr Member
bagpus3
Well-Known Member
Probably from this photo shoot. Looks like the guy at the rear right.
From http://www.starwarsarchives.com/ - the "1977 - promotion - photoshoots" section.
(will remove if requested.)
definitely a different guy:thumbsup, Gino Say's "it's from the same shoot" could you pls elaborate? I also? have an un-altered photo in my stock
Brian Muir
Well-Known Member
Besides pieces being put on the wrong areas the suit has been so badly trimmed the profiles have been lost at the end of each trimmed piece.
Amazing that this would have been used for a promotional photo.
Brian
Hey Brian-
Its so wonderfull to see the person who was responsible for some of our most dearest childhood memories posting here.My hat goes off to you sir and a big thank you for all those memories too.It would have been wonderful if Liz could be here also.Bless her.:angel
Do you have any pics you could share from the production?That and like someone posted I would love to see some of your other work.
Regards,
Ben
