vaderdarth
Master Member
I like it...........a lot. You people will just have to suffer ever more knowing the grid lines are recessed. LOL.
1/350 TOS E is happening.
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SteveNeill
Sr Member
Grid lines? I don't have to show you no stinking grid lines. Ahahahahahah!!!
Wow really??? Most of these kits will never be built... really???? why because filling grid lines is too difficult? Or the fact that you know they are under the paint somehow reduces the value... better leave it in the box? Or was that sarcasm? Whatever it was doesn't really matter - this will be a great model I have no doubt. A super thin recessed line that your novice modeler will likely fill with primer anyway... Ugh. would smooth have been better - sure unlike the examples provided in the article I can use tape, compass and pencil to draw concentric rings and straight lines... But I'm not miffed at a few lines... Really people??? Kits will never be built because they are too hard.... Really on this forum??? :darnkids C'mon...:cool
Jedi Dade
Jedi Dade
JMChladek
Sr Member
Good grief! How hard is it to remove grid lines from a kit when you get it? Answer: Easy! How hard is it to scribe in grid lines in a kit with NONE? Answer: Not so easy. Jedi Dade is correct.
Are some of you guys model builders or kit assemblers? If you want something done for you, hire somebody else to build the kit or spend a crapload on a Master Replicas or Unobtanium prebuilt model. Or use a little skill to modify a kit however you want if it doesn't meet your expectations. That is the definition of what model building is.
In terms of kit production, putting the lines on makes more sense to me at least because most people likely will be just fine with it. The ones who seem to be the most vocally against it seem to be squaking the loudest. There is a difference between discussion and obsessing over minutia. So, Round 2 is not going to follow the advice of some and take the grid off. Okay, move on. There are other things in life that are far more important.
Are some of you guys model builders or kit assemblers? If you want something done for you, hire somebody else to build the kit or spend a crapload on a Master Replicas or Unobtanium prebuilt model. Or use a little skill to modify a kit however you want if it doesn't meet your expectations. That is the definition of what model building is.
In terms of kit production, putting the lines on makes more sense to me at least because most people likely will be just fine with it. The ones who seem to be the most vocally against it seem to be squaking the loudest. There is a difference between discussion and obsessing over minutia. So, Round 2 is not going to follow the advice of some and take the grid off. Okay, move on. There are other things in life that are far more important.
Onigiri
Sr Member
I think Max's point about kits not getting built meant exactly that: A lot of these kits will be opened and oggled then put on the shelf to be 'gotten to'. I know IVE got a ton of unbuilt kits myself lol...just seems to be how it works out. Not to put words in his mouth but I dont think he was referring to the grid lines per say as a reason though.
space rat
Well-Known Member
I"m just thrilled the kit is being made.
love Grid lines or not , to each their own.:behave What ever they decide to do with the kit is OK by me. The updates and the T-shirt are a nice touch. Thank you Polar Lights, Round 2. I"m also hopeing that an NX-01 Refit {1/350 scale} is in the near future. Hey , a guy can dream.:love
love Grid lines or not , to each their own.:behave What ever they decide to do with the kit is OK by me. The updates and the T-shirt are a nice touch. Thank you Polar Lights, Round 2. I"m also hopeing that an NX-01 Refit {1/350 scale} is in the near future. Hey , a guy can dream.:love
robn1
Master Member
I haven't got my update yet, but Holy Crap! This is going to be Freaking Fantastic! I kinda like the simple "planet top" base as well. I too can deal with grid lines, I'll leave them as is, makes decaling and weathering much easier.
I had hoped with all the hype that they would add a bridge module and I'm glad they did, but at the same time it ticks me off! I mean, a lot of people are going to light this model, including me, but now I have to figure out how to light all those %&@#ing tiny control panels!:cry
I had hoped with all the hype that they would add a bridge module and I'm glad they did, but at the same time it ticks me off! I mean, a lot of people are going to light this model, including me, but now I have to figure out how to light all those %&@#ing tiny control panels!:cry
crackerjazz
Sr Member
I was hoping they'd release one for every fan - a smoothie, a gridded one, a model of the 11-footer, a model of the 33-inch - if that were at all possible. One thing's for sure, though - I will never be able to scratchbuild one for the price of this kit - materials, skill and time considered. And it's the closest I'll get to obtaining a Master Replicas one so I'm happy enough.
trekriffic
Sr Member
I like most of what I can see in the link. I can work around the gridlines so it's not a big deal to me. The shuttle bay though seems a tad shallow which is understandable with having to allow for the pylon retaining tabs. Has anyone given thought to a possible alternative way to mount the pylons to the secondary hull? What if you could make a thin, half round plate to fit just under the skin of the hull with hollow rectangular tabs projecting upwards thru slots in the hull that would slide into slots at the bottom of each pylon? So rather than have the pylons sliding downward into the hull the tabs would slide upwards into the base of each pylon. Make it out of brass for extra strength and epoxy it in place. Anyway, just a thought. Doing this would mean you could make the shuttle bay deeper obviously. I don't expect R2 to do this but it's something I might try when the time comes.
Commander Max
Sr Member
Yep, on this very forum. There are many who wish and all of them are capable, but less than 10% ever really try. This has always been true on this board. It's the same on any board.
I tried to make the same point to PL it is real easy. But they would rather waist time and money on something that in the end is going to be a hindrance to modelers. The dirty little secret is, just how do you replace the lines around the seams? :lol
That's exactly what saying, I've got well over 300 kits myself. But I would rather spend my time building a 11' miniature.
Modelers will stop building a model at any stage where they find frustration.
But modeling is really quite easy, it's more of a perception that its hard to do and do well. Plus people love to over complicate things, thus making the perception of model building much worse.
I had the same problem. They obviously didn't think about their demographic, middle aged and loosing eyesight.
Do you want to know how to take care of the gridlines. Duplicolor gap filling primer(to quote REL, "It's putty in a can"), spray a coat, wetsand, spray a coat, wetsand...
Or magic sculpt you can use your fingers, with a bit of water.
If you want the gridlines good luck rescribing then around the seams. that will be a bigger hassle, which is the point I've been trying to make the whole time.
If you want them accurate, be sure to fill them in around the bridge. Since they do not touch the sub-bridge.
Aztek Dummy
Well-Known Member
Well, it looks like there would be a market for a after market "smoothie" saucer
this ain't rocket surgery, guys:lol
this ain't rocket surgery, guys:lol
Chrisisall
Master Member
I was aghast when I read of the grid lines, but now that I've had some time to mull it over, I'm really warming to it. After all, I'm not building a replica of the filming model with the bare left side and other wonkiness; I'm building what you're supposed to be seeing in "reality." There are supposed to be panel lines. They were represented with pencil on the filming model, but supposed to be a grid in reality. I think I'd like my model to look like it was intended to look like on screen.
And, hey, if I end up not liking the look, it'll take me two coats and 5 minutes of sanding to fill in. No biggie. Plus, those who want a grid, but are not skilled enough to pencil it on themselves, can still have a grid...they just need to be careful what kind of paint and primer they use (stick to Tamiya).
And remember that the tweaks are far from finished. The grid going all the way to the bridge may be corrected. They corrected the scribed line on the landing pad that went two millimeters too far. They may just not have been aware of the bridge error at that point. The "updates" you're seeing are actually weeks old, possibly months, more than likely. They're probably doing a controlled flow of updates.
And, hey, if I end up not liking the look, it'll take me two coats and 5 minutes of sanding to fill in. No biggie. Plus, those who want a grid, but are not skilled enough to pencil it on themselves, can still have a grid...they just need to be careful what kind of paint and primer they use (stick to Tamiya).
And remember that the tweaks are far from finished. The grid going all the way to the bridge may be corrected. They corrected the scribed line on the landing pad that went two millimeters too far. They may just not have been aware of the bridge error at that point. The "updates" you're seeing are actually weeks old, possibly months, more than likely. They're probably doing a controlled flow of updates.
Chrisisall
Master Member
I have a Diamond Select Enterprise, but I got the older one, not the new 'HD' one pictured here
because I thought the grid lines were just a bit too intense.
But then, that's a toy I didn't want to have to paint up all that much.
As a model, yo, anything goes. Bring it. Whatever. Sanding is my middle name.:lol
I know the grid lines are penciled in so they are "supposed" to be there--doesn't bother me--I was planning on penciling them in, maybe this will look nicer, we'll see. It also looks like they are truly trying to make the best compromise that works out the easiest for everyone and they are not taking the question lightly. But the first time reading that column really hacked me off.
It came across to me like "we've already done the work so here's a list of rationalizations for why we're not going to listen to our customers--thanks for buying in and making it possible for us to do this model in the first place but screw you".
Essentially saying grow up so you can play with our toy. Gary has a bright future ahead of himself working for Netflix PR Dept.
It's basically the old screen accurate VS idealized prop argument.
It came across to me like "we've already done the work so here's a list of rationalizations for why we're not going to listen to our customers--thanks for buying in and making it possible for us to do this model in the first place but screw you".
Essentially saying grow up so you can play with our toy. Gary has a bright future ahead of himself working for Netflix PR Dept.
It's basically the old screen accurate VS idealized prop argument.
