Hasbro Legacy Millennium Falcon Conversion

Colin Droidmilk

Sr Member

• Oct 9, 2010

• #81

crackerjazz said:

I wanted to thank Superjedi by the way as he gave me much-needed measurements like that sidewall height, which is so elusive. Here are comparison shots of the rear. That 5-foot Falcon looks real bulbous compared to the 32-inch, which seems to have a flatter hull curvature. It seems to me, that, if scaled to the same size, they would have the same total ship thickness. But since the 32-inch has higher sidewalls, then the 5-footer would have to be considerably dished to compensate for its thinner sidewalls. But - I don't know - you be the judge. That 5-footer really seems to be the hamburger they were talking about. The 32-inch does look more like a hockey puck as someone described.

5-footer rear view:

Hasbro Legacy MF rear view (with 13mm cut off from sidewalls):

32-inch MF rear view from Chronicles:

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Honestly prefer your conversion to the ILM 32 inch in terms of hull curvature and sidewall height. The Hasbro comes out damn close to the 5-footer once corrected. Great work - and great vision for seeing the potential there!

 

Colin Droidmilk

Sr Member

• Oct 9, 2010

• #82

crackerjazz said:

Thanks for the kind words Neosporing : ). and thanks, Mike. A mount would be nice, although, I want to see the belly cannons too - so in all likelihood it will be suspended. I'm thinking about detailing those vents too - it's almost a sin not to. Something so big deserves fans and grilles. Actually, I spend so much time thinking about approaching so many things in so many different ways that in the end I get overwhelmed and don't get to do anything. And then I get to read Scratchy's Star Destroyer (amazingly detailed and fiber-optically-lit too!) - instead of being inspired it makes me wanna give up I don't know how you do it Scratchy you seem to have microscopes for eyes

Test fitting cockpit (just for size):

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That 3rd pic - best 5-footer type proportions I've ever seen outside actual 5-footer builds. Congrats.

And that cockpit has a more open 'mouth' than on the FM - too open, yes, but somehow welcome to my sight as the FM has been bugging me for years with its too closed-up version, caused by that over-thick innner ring. Both ILM models make me want to scrap that cockpit 'mouth' on the FM.

 

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crackerjazz

Sr Member

• Oct 9, 2010

• #83

Thanks, Colin Droidmilk! There's nothing like encouragement to get one to go on with a build! Coming from you that's really something . You really know you're stuff regarding Falcon proportions.

I'm getting on with the cockpit mods. For now I have started shaving off the details of the Vintage Hasbro cockpit.

I know how the cockpit feels - I've been to the dentist for similar work.

Gotta stop Dremeling by the computer - the keys of the laptop are getting so unresponsive. There's a lot more shaving to do at the bottom actually that one would think I should've just scratchbuilt a cockpit, but there's just something about this cockpit that I like. And besides, for Hasbro lovers, there's no better way to acknowledge the memory of the vintage MF than to just incorporate it onto the present mold.

Using Martyn's photos, I've started marking off the portholes (Or are they portholes - probably not - I'm calling them such just for lack of a more descriptive word) Surely Han won't see much through the big radiator fins (koolshade in that scale). Or probably they're peek-through holes when one has to escape being seen in that too-open cockpit. Han: "Hey Chewy, let's hide!"

Just how many holes are there? There seems to be a whole row of them. Only, the koolshade is obscuring the others when a couple are visible at that angle.

Even that one seems to be a porthole:

Once I get these drilled out I have to find a better way to simulate koolshade than stretching sprue...

 

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JPolacchi

Sr Member

• Oct 9, 2010

• #84

How about photo-etch,and/or bristol board/paper from an art store?

 

whitepearl

New Member

• Oct 10, 2010

• #85

Wooow, you will become...no, you're a Falcon Master!!!:cool
Thank you for sharing

 

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crackerjazz

Sr Member

• Oct 10, 2010

• #86

Thanks for the suggestions, JPolacchi! I'm not sure about the avalability of materials like ferric chloride and brass plate, but I'll try to find out.
Whitepearl, thanks! I'm hardly a Falcon Master though , Falcon fan maybe - there are really awesome Falcon builds on here!

 

PHArchivist

Master Member

• Oct 11, 2010

• #87

Wow I never realized those holes went all the way around. ALway though there were just a couple...

 

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crackerjazz

Sr Member

• Oct 14, 2010

• #88

Hi Rob, it actually has 9 holes would you believe! Just like the way you don't notice your cat's long whisker-like eyebrows until you really look.

Hole number 2 has the dented koolshade. I use the ACS (it looks like
it doesn't it) as a guide.

I used the koolshade "strap locks" as another guide to see how many holes there actually were.

At first I was too lazy to measure and just drilled away. Look at how I botched the job. So...

I had to saw out the whole thing and replace it with a strip of styrene.

Carefully measured, marked and drilled correctly this time.

Time to round up the paint bottles.

And my favorite mixing palette.

I need to paint the section before installing the "koolshade" otherwise I went get into it with my brush. Just this section gets the painting treatment for now as I need to sand the cockpit surface still....

 

Laspector

Master Member

• Oct 14, 2010

• #89

What do you plan top use as glass for the cockpit?

 

MARK M3

Master Member

RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

• Oct 14, 2010

• #90

This is an awesome thread Sir!!!

Love what you are doing!

 

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crackerjazz

Sr Member

• Oct 14, 2010

• #91

Thanks, Beatlepaul! Your paintjob/weathering on your Falcon is very inspirational, by the way! I hope to do the same on mine. Hi Laspector, no glass on this Falcon for me - just like the movie prop (to avoid reflections when filming). Lends to authenticity and, more importantly, saves us the work!

 

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JPolacchi

Sr Member

• Oct 14, 2010

• #92

{Thanks for the suggestions, JPolacchi! I'm not sure about the avalability of materials like ferric chloride and brass plate, but I'll try to find out.
Whitepearl, thanks! I'm hardly a Falcon Master though , Falcon fan maybe - there are really awesome Falcon builds on here! }

You could also just try cutting the pieces(individually) out of K&S brass sheet.Very time consumming though.

 

Laspector

Master Member

• Oct 21, 2010

• #93

Any updates on this?

 

Jedifyfe

Master Member

RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

• Oct 21, 2010

• #94

There are very few builds that I like to watch BUT this one is one of them!!! Looks great!

 

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crackerjazz

Sr Member

• Oct 22, 2010

• #95

Thanks, Jedifyfe! Hi Laspector. Sorry for not having any updates lately. Real life getting in the way....

I've built some fans - it just isn't a '5-footer' without the fans. I've made them as close as I could to Martyn's photos. These probably turn clockwise to vent out the hot air that builds up when the lights are turned on on the 5-footer prop. Still some work to do on these domes but they look good don't they. I carved them out of the tops of some cheap little night lamps. I made a template, cut up some styrene and glued the fins on. There's a bit of modification on the vents that have to be made - there's a bit of difference between the 5-footer and 32-inch vents.

 

Jodo

Master Member

• Oct 22, 2010

• #96

This is amazing work, keep it up mate!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

TK7713Gra30

Active Member

• Oct 25, 2010

• #97

I love this, superb, I want one now

 

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crackerjazz

Sr Member

• Oct 30, 2010

• #98

Thanks, guys! I wanted to get the exact thickness of the mandibles. There was only one way to find out - get the Entex 1:5 Wankel engine. This is also the dinosaur bone that will give us the exact length of the 5-footer.

It measures 20.7cm in length.

For the mandible thickness, this is the measurement we are interested in because the top and bottom mandible surfaces somehow mate with the Wankel at these points, as you can see in the following photos from Martyn:

The top mating surface.

The bottom mating surface.

Now I was sidetracked and a thought popped in my head - surely I could get the length of the 5-footer in the same way.

By measuring the Wankel, which is clearly visible in the Chronicles book photo, I get 2.5cm

And measuring the length of the ship in the photo - my caliper wasn't long enough so I'll just add the front and rear halves.

Adding both halves I get 20.9cm as the length of the ship in the photo.
By ratio and proportion, 20.7cm (Entex Wankel length) is to 2.5cm (Wankel in photo) as x (length of 5-footer) is to 20.9cm (length of ship in photo). Which gives us x = 173.02cm (5ft 8in) as the length of the ILM 5-footer, which is the same length mentioned in the Chronicles book.

Interestingly, measuring the cockpit diameter:

And using the same ratios, gives us the cockpit diameter of the actual 5-footer as 6.2 inches. The cockpit in the photos has shadows and it's difficult to measure accurately using the caliper but this shouldn't be far off.

I'll put those measurements aside and work on the mandible thickness later.

Using some .23mm acoustic guitar strings...

I cut them up into tiny pieces and stuck them onto the cockpit...

to simulate koolshade. Couldn't wait to finish it and put the "metal" koolshade straps on.

I'll probably do the same thing for the vent grills. Quickly opened one vent up just to see how the fan looks underneath. Looks cool enough.

 

vaderdarth

Master Member

• Oct 30, 2010

• #99

excellent thread!

 

superjedi

Sr Member

• Oct 30, 2010

• #100

Go, Joseph, go! Terrific work on the cockpit tube.

In my local hobby shop they have one of those Mazda engine kits on the shelf. I never see it as a model engine, I always think of it as part of the Falcon.