Greenie
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https://youtu.be/YyqlTi7lkhY. This whole thing makes me hang my head.
WHAT???? I never knew this. Sheesh...She is also responsible for the now infamous Leia Poppins travesty. Even Rian Johnson couldnt come up with such rubbish, that`s saying something. :facepalm
WHAT???? I never knew this. Sheesh...
A terrible plot contrivance to remove Ackbar, put Leia in a coma and place Holdo in charge.
https://movieweb.com/star-wars-last-jedi-leia-uses-force-powers-explained/
https://www.gamesradar.com/mary-pop...edi-director-talks-that-controversial-moment/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_2rzpexKvE
Quite interesting. Although reading these articles it very much seems to me that it was Rian. KK wanted to see Leia using the force, which I think is a completely fair enough thing, it was RJ's decision to make her float around. I feel like a broken record but damn this movie is the prime example of "the original concept was okay on paper and it was executed in the worst way possible".
Sadly even he's been relegated to being covered with a rag and kept in the corner.
Sadly even he's been relegated to being covered with a rag and kept in the corner. Literally that was almost his entire screen time in TFA. Was he even in TLJ other than showing Luke the hologram of Leia?
I would have been fine with Leia using some Force powers as long as it was subtle. Given what had been established in TFA Leia clearly went on to keep fighting in the Rebellion and sent Ben off to train with Luke, suggesting that she never followed the Jedi path. Having her survive being blasted out of the bridge of a ship, float for several minutes in the vacuum of space, and then use the Force to float back into the ship and SURVIVE all of that without so much as a scratch?
I suspend my disbelief for Star Wars but that was just too far out there even for this series and more for the fact that there was nothing to even suggest that she had the ability to do that. If she was that powerful then why not use an ability like that for combat against the First Order? Why bother trying to find Luke at all? And it made Luke's whole schtick at the end of the movie solidify his place as a coward by not showing up in person to correct his mistake.
What a disservice to her character. Leia and Carrie Fisher deserved better than that. Laura Dern could have been used better too. She is a very talented actress and could have easily been appointed the new leader of the Resistance without the whole mutiny subplot and subsequent suicide mission.
Having Ackbar die off screen was pointless too. They just mention it in passing with barely a pause. Why not just let him live if they were going to do that?
I'm still coming to grips with how much of a slap in the face this movie is to EVERY STAR WARS FILM THAT CAME BEFORE IT.
I've mentioned how little expectation there is for Rey and Kylo in 9. How much less is there for all of the other characters to do? Finn and Rose are going to fall in love. Poe will be the leader of the Resistance and who the hell else is left? A few techs and maybe a foot soldier or two? They have like 20 people left? You might as well disband and give up at that point.
The First Order has about 10 ships left? It was so hard to keep track of how many people were left on either side of the conflict.
And the worst thing about all of this is I DON'T ****ING CARE ABOUT ANY OF THEM ANY MORE!
I just can't fathom that they would even allow ANY director to not have to follow SOME sort of outline for how the story was going to play out. At least the broad strokes. You mean to tell me that Disney spent 4 BILLION dollars and didn't force Lucasfilm to even have a plan of how they were going to earn their money back? Even from a business perspective that's idiotic.
Thinking of that whole scene the biggest problem is that it was written and shot in a particular way and a shoehorned explanation is tacked on (she force-created a sealant layer around her to protect from space, etc). It reminds me a lot of Palps' face melting in ROTS. When people started to bring up that there is no logic in that because no-one else's face got melted from lightnings it was quickly explained that he was in fact this hideous looking monster and he force-covered his face and it was the disguise that was gone at that point (which just sounds stupid to me). Problem is neither movies do a god job in actually explaining this and we're just left with an awkward looking scene that doesn't feel right.I would have been fine with Leia using some Force powers as long as it was subtle. Given what had been established in TFA Leia clearly went on to keep fighting in the Rebellion and sent Ben off to train with Luke, suggesting that she never followed the Jedi path. Having her survive being blasted out of the bridge of a ship, float for several minutes in the vacuum of space, and then use the Force to float back into the ship and SURVIVE all of that without so much as a scratch?
Honestly I'd be okay with the old ones not really being part. As long as there's good new stuff coming and the old bits are not totally screwed up I'm fine if the old stuff only gets mentioned. Hell, the parts of all 3 Disney SW movies I like the best are the first 30-40 minutes of TFA until Han and Chewie show up and the final scene with Rey, Finn and Ren.Sadly even he's been relegated to being covered with a rag and kept in the corner. Literally that was almost his entire screen time in TFA. Was he even in TLJ other than showing Luke the hologram of Leia?
That was gonna be my question. Who, here, is actually going to buy TLJ on BD/DVD? Personally, I have no inclination to watch it again and I feel sure I will not be rushing to the shops on release day as I have in the past.
Regardless of sending a message to Disney/LFL, I just don’t wanna own this movie. There’s nothing within it for me anymore.
Im not a fan of the PT but I own them on DVD. They are bad movies but still visually immerse me in the world of SW. The ST so far leaves me feeling empty. The more I think of it, the only thing I have enjoyed (apart from the anticipation) is the Falcon chase from TFA and even that is soiled by the ace pilot:facepalm pulling moves like Solo.
I’m just gonna sit here and cuddle the OT close to my chest :cry