Blade Runner 2049 (Post-release)
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The Searcher
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Beautiful. Couldn’t have asked for a better 2049 anniversary present.
VERY cool!!! Thanks for sharing.
Still one of ,if not the most favourite of modern movies for me.
Ben
I finally got around to watching this. Perhaps I should have watched the first one again. It's been years.
The look and VFX and all visuals are very well done. Cinematography is great and sound all excellent. The film's story was so incredibly boring sadly. When it was over I looked around confused thinking, "That's the end?! I sat through this whole thing for that??"
I can't fairly say this movie was terrible. From a technical standpoint it was very sharp and well thought out. The story and pacing just fell very flat to me and didn't care in the end.
The look and VFX and all visuals are very well done. Cinematography is great and sound all excellent. The film's story was so incredibly boring sadly. When it was over I looked around confused thinking, "That's the end?! I sat through this whole thing for that??"
I can't fairly say this movie was terrible. From a technical standpoint it was very sharp and well thought out. The story and pacing just fell very flat to me and didn't care in the end.
Toadmeister
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Interesting you found the story boring, I found it quite engaging. To each his own.
joshvanrad
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I watched this about a month ago and I REALLY enjoyed it. I like scifi movies that pose interesting questions. I can definitely understand how people would see this movie as a drag. I could tell the runtime was long during the viewing, but I was never bored. I actually really enjoyed the lingering pace of the movie. It just seemed to work for me.
Strikerkc
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I suspect a re-watch of the original would have helped calibrate you for the sequel. in memory, the original is full of quick pacing and interesting action, while in truth, it's pretty slow and drawn out also (though not as much as the sequel). That said, re-watching the original will just show the sequel to be a similar affair, not actually make the plot any more interesting for someone that found the plot to be lacking.
Very fair responses and I really should go back and watch the first again. I guess I didn't quite know what I was expecting out of this one and Harrison Ford's part came in much later in the film than I thought for where he was billed in the credits. However they also billed Mark Hamill in the top few spots for The Force Awakens even though his total screen time was around 45 seconds.
Another thing that tends to happen is when a lot of people keep telling me to watch something my expectations run higher when I finally sit down to watch it, and even though I didn't know what I was expecting I guess I at least was thinking along the lines of more entertaining. It took a few sit downs to get through it.
Also I thought Jared Leto's character was going to be a lot more involved, but it left things wide open the way it ended.
Another thing that tends to happen is when a lot of people keep telling me to watch something my expectations run higher when I finally sit down to watch it, and even though I didn't know what I was expecting I guess I at least was thinking along the lines of more entertaining. It took a few sit downs to get through it.
Also I thought Jared Leto's character was going to be a lot more involved, but it left things wide open the way it ended.
joshvanrad
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I'm not sure you can make this work if you find it boring, but I don't think you can watch this movie over multiple sittings and get the full effect. I watched the whole movie in one sitting and found it very immersive. I think if you are broken out of that aspect of the movie it'll suffer.
Toadmeister
Sr Member
Agreed.
I saw it in the theater and I was totally engrossed in the film. It was an experience actually.
I loved it.
It reminded me so much of the original, obviously with the carryover characters, but also with the life-draining bleekness, the vast environments that added depth to the world making aspect, even that so much homage and respect are paid to the original without rehashing anything.
It just seemed to ne to be a superb example of how to do a proper sequel to a great movie.
Also, not to make this here too male-centric or blue even, but GOOD GOD that Joi is something else! I don’t know who the actress is but I have not seen a 4 ALARM BOMBSHELL like that in ages! Holy cow, woman! If that is the future, I am all for it!
On a more serious note, I admire that they incorporated an emotional tone from the original: where the replicant wanted to preserve and to save life, so delicate and precious, that he would even spend the little life of his own that remains to save the life of his enemy, the new film shows that even a replicant spends his time, just like a real human would, in a haze of confusion, doubt, monotony, and self-absorption; humans and replicants, what really is the difference?
Of course that is probably obvious with the very question posed by Dick himself: Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?
It reminded me so much of the original, obviously with the carryover characters, but also with the life-draining bleekness, the vast environments that added depth to the world making aspect, even that so much homage and respect are paid to the original without rehashing anything.
It just seemed to ne to be a superb example of how to do a proper sequel to a great movie.
Also, not to make this here too male-centric or blue even, but GOOD GOD that Joi is something else! I don’t know who the actress is but I have not seen a 4 ALARM BOMBSHELL like that in ages! Holy cow, woman! If that is the future, I am all for it!
On a more serious note, I admire that they incorporated an emotional tone from the original: where the replicant wanted to preserve and to save life, so delicate and precious, that he would even spend the little life of his own that remains to save the life of his enemy, the new film shows that even a replicant spends his time, just like a real human would, in a haze of confusion, doubt, monotony, and self-absorption; humans and replicants, what really is the difference?
Of course that is probably obvious with the very question posed by Dick himself: Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?
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Tan Djarka
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I liked the original. I liked this sequel. That said, I think this is a franchise we should just let die. However much we and some creative types in Hollywood may like it, the vast majority of the world just doesn't agree with us. In an environment where instead of new ideas, they keep on rehashing old "bankable" commodities, I don't understand why they keep pouring money down this particular hole. It's neither new nor bankable. Just let it go.
Nth
Sr Member
They ruined Aliens, they ruined Predator, they ruined Terminator, all I have left to look forward to is something Blade Runner related. I don't even care if the Black Lotus series ends up sucking, I already know I am buying it on blu ray as soon as it comes out. Like pizza, even a bad one is still pretty good and definitely better than nothing.
I have a few questions that I hope weren't already asked.
Right before we see K looking through DNA records, we see a guy outside in the hall and it looks like he's washing blood off the wall. Was there a scene cut at this point?
Towards the end when K is walking along and elevated walkway, and he encounters a hologram of Joi. She starts enteracting with him, did this happen, or was he imagining the whole thing? If it was happening, at one point she says, "you look like a nice Joe." And K suddenly looks deflated. Is this because he realized his Joi naming him Joe was just part of a program? I assume so because at that point he seems to get...I don't know, angry? And goes after Love....like he's going to war.
Lastly, Deckard is in the car with Love and he asks where are they going and she says "home", like it's his home too. Does this mean, once and for all that Deckard is a Replicant?
Right before we see K looking through DNA records, we see a guy outside in the hall and it looks like he's washing blood off the wall. Was there a scene cut at this point?
Towards the end when K is walking along and elevated walkway, and he encounters a hologram of Joi. She starts enteracting with him, did this happen, or was he imagining the whole thing? If it was happening, at one point she says, "you look like a nice Joe." And K suddenly looks deflated. Is this because he realized his Joi naming him Joe was just part of a program? I assume so because at that point he seems to get...I don't know, angry? And goes after Love....like he's going to war.
Lastly, Deckard is in the car with Love and he asks where are they going and she says "home", like it's his home too. Does this mean, once and for all that Deckard is a Replicant?
Potroclo
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As I understood it, the Joi on the walkway is just an add (an add for the Joi "app", as in the product itself. The 2049 version of "try me" toy packages lol). K interacts with her because it brings him confort, but her not recognizing him (as she is not his personalized version of Joi) shakes him back to reality and makes him realize he's got nothing left to lose...
When Luv says "home" I just though she was saying it like her home, but you bring an interesting point! Maybe because she knows he's going to meet Rachael again?
Dunno about the blood on the wall
Interesting details!
When Luv says "home" I just though she was saying it like her home, but you bring an interesting point! Maybe because she knows he's going to meet Rachael again?
Dunno about the blood on the wall
Interesting details!
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sztriki
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So the last time I saw BR2049 was in the cinema when it came out. I liked it a lot back then, thought it could do with trimming 15 minutes or so, and thought the plot and mysteries could be figured out really easily (for example the moment they said "she" regarding the bones I knew it was Rachael, etc).
This weekend I rewatched it at home. Now that I know what the plot is and that became secondary...man I was floored completely. This movie is INCREDIBLY beautiful, every shot is a piece of art, the lighting is out of this world and the pacing felt absolutely right this time and thought the plot unfolded perfectly with tons of small bits of visual story-telling that I haven't necessarily noticed or took all in the first time. For example the scene in the casino with the Elvis hologram felt dragged out in the cinema, this time however it felt perfect in every way. Ford's "I like this song..." moment was just fantastic, the overall attention to detail both world-building and acting-wise is amazing. I don't know why it didn't win me over this much (again, I did like it a lot) in the cinema, if it did I probably would have single-handedly turned it profitable as I would have taken up camp in the cinema to watch it over and over again.
The only criticism I have is Jared Leto and his character. Just a wee bit cringy for me these villains who always give a speech instead of having a conversation (Christopher Nolan's Batman movies anyone?), but he wasn't on screen that much to have a serious impact.
So limited edition BR steelbook is already on its way and I can't wait to watch it again or to have a showing in one of the theatres around.
This weekend I rewatched it at home. Now that I know what the plot is and that became secondary...man I was floored completely. This movie is INCREDIBLY beautiful, every shot is a piece of art, the lighting is out of this world and the pacing felt absolutely right this time and thought the plot unfolded perfectly with tons of small bits of visual story-telling that I haven't necessarily noticed or took all in the first time. For example the scene in the casino with the Elvis hologram felt dragged out in the cinema, this time however it felt perfect in every way. Ford's "I like this song..." moment was just fantastic, the overall attention to detail both world-building and acting-wise is amazing. I don't know why it didn't win me over this much (again, I did like it a lot) in the cinema, if it did I probably would have single-handedly turned it profitable as I would have taken up camp in the cinema to watch it over and over again.
The only criticism I have is Jared Leto and his character. Just a wee bit cringy for me these villains who always give a speech instead of having a conversation (Christopher Nolan's Batman movies anyone?), but he wasn't on screen that much to have a serious impact.
So limited edition BR steelbook is already on its way and I can't wait to watch it again or to have a showing in one of the theatres around.
Richard Baker
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What I find odd is that I can watch the original Blade Runner over and over again but I have only seen the sequel once (even though I have it on disc and stream).
I liked the film. visually it was stunning. It might just be me, but the original Ridley Scott world was full and complete- it was a like a real city, lived in and relatable. This newer world in 2049 was more like a showcase instead of someone's home. Some places seemed to be created just for visual impact and great camera angles while Scott's seemed to be filmed on location. I know the backstory about why the world had changed somewhat with the great power failure, but that did not add anything to the story, it was more of an excuse as to why there was a noticeable difference between the two film worlds.
I liked the film. visually it was stunning. It might just be me, but the original Ridley Scott world was full and complete- it was a like a real city, lived in and relatable. This newer world in 2049 was more like a showcase instead of someone's home. Some places seemed to be created just for visual impact and great camera angles while Scott's seemed to be filmed on location. I know the backstory about why the world had changed somewhat with the great power failure, but that did not add anything to the story, it was more of an excuse as to why there was a noticeable difference between the two film worlds.
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