ok gang i got some free time, loving all the collected info! so we now have a picture of the small black screws!! is it safe to say only the dagobah saber had the small screws? the r2 bump scene, can we confirm in that pic there isn't small black screws? i know the r2 bump scene was heavily debated, but now with this hi-def pic gino posted (thanks gino!!) it really makes me think differently now
another thing i was thinking of last night, since the saber that is pulled out of the snow in the wampa cave has the same black screw/mark on the clamp as the dagobah saber. maybe with the screw removed that is the black hole we are seeing?!
as for 1 of props, didnt solo have his 2 belts in ESB, the ANH belt and a new ESB belt? can we confirm luke had multiple belts as well? or was luke only using his celebration belt from ANH through out ESB.
im not trying to "defend" my 1 belt hanger theory through out the film anymore, because i think we now have at least 2 we know of. and i understand the logic behind NOT having only 1 hero BUT multiple films, including star wars has only had 1 hero. the V2 is a classic example, han's live fire in ANH, films even today still only rock 1 hero. heck look at the first transformers, they used chevys concept Camaro through out that whole first film, and there was only 1 in the world, another movie where there was only 1 car in the world was "hit and run" and that sucker did all the stunts in the film as well.
even though i personally think its idiotic to only have 1 hero, it is done very commonly and still today. (this quickly came to mind) but Kick-ass2 all the super heros aside from hit girl, and kickass had only 1 suit.
i dont find it hard to believe by this time in production we only had 1 hero, BUT with new evidence i think its safe to say there is at least 1 more. with all these different stunt variants i could see them grabbing another graflex and doing what they had to to make it work. the stunt in dagobah had both red buttons
just out of curiosity, anyone have the picture of behind the scenes with luke hanging and the saber in the snow, was that a stunt with the blade in the snow, and a guy moving the saber by giggling the blade?
another question i had was besides the promo photos we have with the back ground color drops, any idea when exactly those were taken? basically what im saying is, do we know if they did anything like they did with ANH and took promo photos after (harrisons fords hair cut change) or were all these promos taken during filming?
love all the team work going into this :thumbsup
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is my mind playing tricks on me, or do i see small black screws in the grip far right?
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yes it's fooling you with that one shiny reflection. I can confirm this saber has NO smaller secondary screws.
Also, Gino has the measure of it. The ranch bottom can is a match for the Dagobah belt hanger, but it's a patent graflex. It's NOT the Wampa cave saber, or the other belt hanger that's more commonly seen throughout the film.
The ranch saber seems to be the dagobah bottom can, plus a new clamp and new top. The scratches and blemishes don't match at all for those parts. At some point, as Gino points out, the Kobold was re-attached upside down... who knows why or when for sure, but so far I can't see any evidence that it was upside down for filming. Possibly it was re-dressed when getting ready for ROTJ as one of them showed up on Day 1 filming.
One thing to watch for throughout production is the D ring itself on each different saber. Completely different shapes.
yes it's fooling you with that one shiny reflection. I can confirm this saber has NO smaller secondary screws.
Also, Gino has the measure of it. The ranch bottom can is a match for the Dagobah belt hanger, but it's a patent graflex. It's NOT the Wampa cave saber, or the other belt hanger that's more commonly seen throughout the film.
The ranch saber seems to be the dagobah bottom can, plus a new clamp and new top. The scratches and blemishes don't match at all for those parts. At some point, as Gino points out, the Kobold was re-attached upside down... who knows why or when for sure, but so far I can't see any evidence that it was upside down for filming. Possibly it was re-dressed when getting ready for ROTJ as one of them showed up on Day 1 filming.
One thing to watch for throughout production is the D ring itself on each different saber. Completely different shapes.
We say "stunt" as a generic term, but really, there's three different types-- the ones used for duels, the ones with shorter blades like this one and the Yuma when it's swung around other performers, and ones used for actor falls (Luke jumping against the side of the barge), throwing, etc.
I’m so glad you said this about the D rings because I’ve been looking a lot at that very thing but thought I might just be nuts.
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where have you been all day buddy, you missed all the action! we've been comparing photos all night opcorn
so, my logic tells me the wampa cave saber wasnt a belt hanger, since the socket/top half had to be rigged for the stunt blade
I wonder if this is just a pose for a publicity shot or for real filming because the lens of that camera is only capturing white Wampa fur up close :wacko
Chaïm
I wonder if this is just a pose for a publicity shot or for real filming because the lens of that camera is only capturing white Wampa fur up close :wacko
Chaïm
it’s interesting timing we are looking at this now cause just 4 days ago Mark Hamill tweeted about this scene playfully upset about the amputation which he was allegedly unaware of. The thing of interest is that he says in his own tweet the Wampa wasn’t on set for that - yet here’s this picture which is basically that exact moment he’s about to swipe at him, correct?
Mark’s full quote: "When filming scene I was assured my lightsaber swipe toward camera (creature not on set) would simply singe fur 2 scare him off-Horrified to later see amputation & unnecessary cruelty- Wampa was HUNGRY (not EVIL)-Luke would never do this!"
Maybe they are shot for different purposes or maybe just more evidence of unreliable memories?