Re: ZK's ZF-1 reasearch/build thread
Unfortunatly the ZF light sequence is not that simple.
Unfortunatly the ZF light sequence is not that simple.
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ZK's ZF-1 research thread
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Re: ZK's ZF-1 reasearch/build thread
Im not sure it would be worth it, both these kits are easy to get hold of and not expensive.
How many people on this thread are actually builind a ZF-1?
Im not sure it would be worth it, both these kits are easy to get hold of and not expensive.
How many people on this thread are actually builind a ZF-1?
Mike Rush
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Re: ZK's ZF-1 reasearch/build thread
I don't think your frames D, R, W and Z represent distinct lighting states. I think those frames cross the transition, so that you're seeing the LEDs just before and just afterward on at the same time - caught in the moment during which one goes out and the other comes on).
In those frames some of the LEDs look slightly dimmer, which would support this theory?
I don't think your frames D, R, W and Z represent distinct lighting states. I think those frames cross the transition, so that you're seeing the LEDs just before and just afterward on at the same time - caught in the moment during which one goes out and the other comes on).
In those frames some of the LEDs look slightly dimmer, which would support this theory?
Re: ZK's ZF-1 reasearch/build thread
I never said they were distinct lighting sequences. I'm saying it's not as easy as turning certain lights on and off. LED's are on or off, they don't fade out on their own. The circuit will require either a microcontroller so timing can be controlled or adding (to the circuit Matt recommended) some capacitors to keep the lights from going out too quick.
I never said they were distinct lighting sequences. I'm saying it's not as easy as turning certain lights on and off. LED's are on or off, they don't fade out on their own. The circuit will require either a microcontroller so timing can be controlled or adding (to the circuit Matt recommended) some capacitors to keep the lights from going out too quick.
Re: ZK's ZF-1 reasearch/build thread
After going over it again last night i think you are correct. In a few frames i could just barely make out 4 lights in the center. :angel
The LEDs in my droring aren't quite to scale, but I believe the center light is a tightly packed cluster of four. I suppose it doesn't really matter. If you want to do it as one, that is totally cool. Just looks like four to me
After going over it again last night i think you are correct. In a few frames i could just barely make out 4 lights in the center. :angel
Re: ZK's ZF-1 reasearch/build thread
I'm not sure about that man. The voyager kit runs about 40 bucks, and the kazon about fifteen. Throw in shipping and it could be about 75 total. Only four pieces are needed from those two kits.
BUT, even if the cost would make sense, LDR makes a great point. If only three people are doing build ups, it's probably not a sound way to spend your time
Thanks for the backup on the light sequence, by the way. Those caps are great.
I'm not sure about that man. The voyager kit runs about 40 bucks, and the kazon about fifteen. Throw in shipping and it could be about 75 total. Only four pieces are needed from those two kits.
BUT, even if the cost would make sense, LDR makes a great point. If only three people are doing build ups, it's probably not a sound way to spend your time
Thanks for the backup on the light sequence, by the way. Those caps are great.
Mutant-Enemy
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Re: ZK's ZF-1 reasearch/build thread
No doubt you are correct. I think there are more lurkers here than anything...:ninja
I however don't intend to put these thin plastic parts from the Voyager and Kazon kit's into my build-up.
I'm thinking along the lines of copying them in stone once I have them put together in the correct configuration so that I can have them vacu-formed in sturdier stuff.
No doubt you are correct. I think there are more lurkers here than anything...:ninja
I however don't intend to put these thin plastic parts from the Voyager and Kazon kit's into my build-up.
I'm thinking along the lines of copying them in stone once I have them put together in the correct configuration so that I can have them vacu-formed in sturdier stuff.
Re: ZK's ZF-1 reasearch/build thread
You'll drive yourself crazy looking at frames. There's only one combination. The 'extra' sequences you see are 'ghosts' caused by shutter-drag and probably a result of having to open the aperture of the lens for proper exposure. Side note: a LED may seem 'on' to our eyes, but a good electronics tech will micro-burst the power many times per second to keep the LED from burning up.
You'll drive yourself crazy looking at frames. There's only one combination. The 'extra' sequences you see are 'ghosts' caused by shutter-drag and probably a result of having to open the aperture of the lens for proper exposure. Side note: a LED may seem 'on' to our eyes, but a good electronics tech will micro-burst the power many times per second to keep the LED from burning up.
Re: ZK's ZF-1 reasearch/build thread
The illusion of a circle in the center is caused by the reflection of the camera lense in the center light (common occurrence in portrait photography) If the LEDs are 3mm, there won't be enough room to mount that tight a cluster. Also, you can see the color variance between the LED (in 'off' mode) and background when viewing still frames. Center = 1 light
The illusion of a circle in the center is caused by the reflection of the camera lense in the center light (common occurrence in portrait photography) If the LEDs are 3mm, there won't be enough room to mount that tight a cluster. Also, you can see the color variance between the LED (in 'off' mode) and background when viewing still frames. Center = 1 light
Pappagello
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Re: ZK's ZF-1 reasearch/build thread
I have started investing in a few of the cheaper kits, parts etc. but really need to sort out getting a pod before fully committing. Where can I get a pod ?
I have started investing in a few of the cheaper kits, parts etc. but really need to sort out getting a pod before fully committing. Where can I get a pod ?
Sidewinder
Sr Member
Re: ZK's ZF-1 reasearch/build thread
The vented hemisphere looks like it belongs inside the gold ring, maybe they are fancy dashboard vents?
Also just noticed the larger set of fins further back on the rocket indicating the silver tube is part of the rocket and not as i previously thought a launch tube of some sort that the rocket fitted in to. Good pics.
Re the voyager/kazon bits, maybe if you created the undertray area as a single casting from the found parts it'd be easier(for you) to mold/more desirable to buliders??
SAS
The vented hemisphere looks like it belongs inside the gold ring, maybe they are fancy dashboard vents?
Also just noticed the larger set of fins further back on the rocket indicating the silver tube is part of the rocket and not as i previously thought a launch tube of some sort that the rocket fitted in to. Good pics.
Re the voyager/kazon bits, maybe if you created the undertray area as a single casting from the found parts it'd be easier(for you) to mold/more desirable to buliders??
SAS
Re: ZK's ZF-1 reasearch/build thread
I wanted to this last night but i was dead,
I wanted to this last night but i was dead,
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Mutant-Enemy
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Re: ZK's ZF-1 reasearch/build thread
I'm assuming you realize that some of those lights are cut off in some frames...such as R, F and Z.
I've been studying the light sequence for some time now and also think they may have used something other than LED's but it's important to try to think in terms of what they had available to them at the time.
I'm assuming you realize that some of those lights are cut off in some frames...such as R, F and Z.
I've been studying the light sequence for some time now and also think they may have used something other than LED's but it's important to try to think in terms of what they had available to them at the time.
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Re: ZK's ZF-1 reasearch/build thread
Actually no , i think if the light is on in the pic then it is on .
Actually no , i think if the light is on in the pic then it is on .
Mutant-Enemy
Sr Member
Re: ZK's ZF-1 reasearch/build thread
I'm sorry, I'm not being clear I guess...
I'm not saying that there are lights that are off,
I'm saying that in some of those frames it appears that the weapon is angled downward which is obscuring some of the LED's from sight.
Hey, why has everyone forgot about the screen caps I put up of the light sequence?
Here it is again:
I'm sorry, I'm not being clear I guess...
I'm not saying that there are lights that are off,
I'm saying that in some of those frames it appears that the weapon is angled downward which is obscuring some of the LED's from sight.
Hey, why has everyone forgot about the screen caps I put up of the light sequence?
Here it is again:
Re: ZK's ZF-1 reasearch/build thread
Oh , yes. I didn't even think about that ,sorry. Thanks for reposting your pic. Excellent!!
Edit to add. I like how your pics show the fading LEDS also.
Oh , yes. I didn't even think about that ,sorry. Thanks for reposting your pic. Excellent!!
Edit to add. I like how your pics show the fading LEDS also.
Mutant-Enemy
Sr Member
Re: ZK's ZF-1 reasearch/build thread
Just glad I can contribute something to this.
I refer to that "fading" as "ghosting" and it may be an indication that these aren't LED's we are looking at.
I'll know more in a bit...I've got some feeler's out.
Just glad I can contribute something to this.
I refer to that "fading" as "ghosting" and it may be an indication that these aren't LED's we are looking at.
I'll know more in a bit...I've got some feeler's out.
Charles Kline
Sr Member
Re: ZK's ZF-1 reasearch/build thread
LEDs dont really fade, I'd bet they're incandescent bulbs.
LEDs dont really fade, I'd bet they're incandescent bulbs.
