Will We See Welling in the Costume: Yes or NO

I've watched the series, start to finish, and I have to admit I feel a little let down by the finale.

I was happy to see Jonathan and Lex return, but the way they wrote them in was almost laughable. The fact that you don't truly get to see Welling in the suit was indeed a cheat. The main points of the story felt rushed by all the ancillary crap that was going on. And Chloe reading her son (?) a comic about the whole story was kind of silly to me.

To be honest, I'm happy the show's over, but they should have called it about 3 years ago...

Sean
 
As a dedicated fan of the show, I was really hopeful, but sadly disappointed
with the finale.. With all the filler, hard to believe situations and posing, I
think I found myself feelling very bad for the actors.. There were some good
parts (I think), but mostly hard to watch as a final episode. The most
disappointing part was the fact that they decided not to make a suit for
Welling to wear and instead CGI'd everything :(.

I'm a firm believer that if they would have canned the writers, they could
have kept this show going a very long time.. The "no tights no flight" attitude
and the poor (90210 style) writing in the last few seasons really killed the show. :(
At least it did for me..
 
Seriously? They told us 10 years ago the flying and suit wouldn't happen. And you are pissed because they held to their word? That's like taking the virgin that took the abstinence pledge to prom and then getting mad she didn't give it up.

No. It's like taking a virgin to prom and she brings condoms in her purse and through-out the entire evening she keeps flashing them just long enough for your imagination to run wild. She whispers in your ear to get a hotel room. Once there - you're just about to get to first base and she stops you and says -- "I TOLD YOU "NO" A LONG TIME AGO - REMEMBER?" You are so frustrated you have to come to the RPF and where you get other members to photoshop her head on someone else's body and tell you "This is what it would look like".
 
No flights no tights....yet they end up doing it anyway in the finale? Why bother if you are going to half ass the tights part? Not only that but every bit of promotional piece for the finale teased at us seeing the suit. Not to mention seeing it in the Fortress several times. So yeah I'm let down.

That nails it, IMO.

If you wanna stick to the no flights no tights schpiel (which was the motto of the two guys who left the show like 5 years ago) - don't tease the people with flying and the actual tights for over a year. It doesn't work both ways.


I'll start by saying I haven't ever watched this show. Not a single episode. I've had friends recommend it to me, but I've always been leery of it, especially because of the "no flights, no tights" mantra.

But these two comments, to me, highlight one of the genuine dangers of watching week-by-week with TV shows -- namely that the marketing guys get to have far more influence on your experience. "Next week on Smallville..." and then show a quick flash of the red 'n' blue. Get the fans hyperventilating so they'll tune in, and then keep stringing them along.

Kerr referenced BSG, and I think that much of my (and his) problems with BSG came from how the show was marketed, rather than how the show was acted and written. I've talked to numerous people who just watched the DVD sets straight through and their response has almost uniformly been "Yeah, I can see where if you'd been watching all these years, it'd be frustrating, but I thought it was pretty true to the overall feel. I liked it." Why is that? Because they didn't spend a lot of time watching "next week on BSG" or the "previously on BSG" stuff and just watched the episodes straight through. No time to pause and wonder, no time to come up with wild theories, no time to anticipate and hope that whatever you've imagined will come to pass.

This has led me to the conclusion that, at least with shows that have a long-running story arc, you're better off just waiting for it ALL to end, and then watching the DVDs.
 
One quick correction (not that this improves the point, mind you :p ) but apparently since they never exchanged the rings at the marriage or finished the ceremony, they didn't technically get married. There was a quick scene in the "7 years later" part where they made some reference to finally getting married and Clark said something like 'I was ready 7 years ago'. Still lame but whatever...

Exactly! That's what I mean:

Lois and Clark decided to pretend they don't really know each other anymore for seven years until one day they announce they're married?

Why did they wait seven years??? He's "been ready" since the last wedding. Is it just that hard to schedule? Has she been against it? And has he been talking to her like he doesn't know her well for seven years? "Sorry, Miss Lane!" Seems it was just the writers' way of shoehorning in a period of time where Lois and Clark are separate and at the Bugle. Like that was the purists' main problem with this continuity... If you're gonna say they waited seven years to finish that ceremony, at least toss out some kind of reason!

The biggest problem with the episode is that the whole story led towards Superman revealing himself and inspiring the people of Metropolis and the world. The crowd (literally tens of people!) that we saw were just glad the asteroid went away. They don't know why or how it happened. Forget giving the fans what they deserve (though some might argue that people who watched this show for ten years got what they deserved! :lol), revealing him to the world as Superman was the only right way to end the story properly.
 
Ususally people sign the marriage certificate before they get married. The ceremony is really only for show. It doesn't officially mean anything. Legally Lois and Clark had been married since that day.


What would have made more sense was if Lois was exposed to the same neurotoxin as Lex, and forgets about Clark. Clark vows to win her back one day, and therfore has to spend the next 7 years winning her back, the same way it took him 7 years the first time.
 
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Ususally people sign the marriage certificate before they get married. The ceremony is really only for show. It doesn't officially mean anything. Legally Lois and Clark had been married since that day.


What would have made more sense was if Lois was exposed to the same neurotoxin as Lex, and forgets about Clark. Clark vows to win her back one day, and therfore has to spend the next 7 years winning her back, the same way it took him 7 years the first time.

Really? All the weddings I've been to including my own the certificate gets signed at the end of the ceremony.

One thing that I've been wondering about the last episode that I haven't seen mentioned anywhere was whether or not there was something wrong with the suit WB lent them. Like maybe it didn't fit Welling or didn't have all the parts, or had some kind of significant visual damage. I figured that would have made more sense for why we don't see a lot of him in suit and the scenes we do see they had to use CG.

Overall I enjoyed the last episode but the final resolution of apokolips was way too rushed it looked ridiculous.
 
Really? All the weddings I've been to including my own the certificate gets signed at the end of the ceremony.

One thing that I've been wondering about the last episode that I haven't seen mentioned anywhere was whether or not there was something wrong with the suit WB lent them. Like maybe it didn't fit Welling or didn't have all the parts, or had some kind of significant visual damage. I figured that would have made more sense for why we don't see a lot of him in suit and the scenes we do see they had to use CG.

Overall I enjoyed the last episode but the final resolution of apokolips was way too rushed it looked ridiculous.

You'd think a show that has lasted as long as this one - that is about the coming of Superman would have deserved it's own version of the suit - instead of borrowing from a poorly received movie that everyone just as soon forget.
 
No. It's like taking a virgin to prom and she brings condoms in her purse and through-out the entire evening she keeps flashing them just long enough for your imagination to run wild. She whispers in your ear to get a hotel room. Once there - you're just about to get to first base and she stops you and says -- "I TOLD YOU "NO" A LONG TIME AGO - REMEMBER?" You are so frustrated you have to come to the RPF and where you get other members to photoshop her head on someone else's body and tell you "This is what it would look like".

Man! What a horrible scenario! :lol

I DVRed it, and still haven't found the guts to put it on. I'm scared that I won't be able to get into it, and be all pissy later on.
 
Really? All the weddings I've been to including my own the certificate gets signed at the end of the ceremony.

One thing that I've been wondering about the last episode that I haven't seen mentioned anywhere was whether or not there was something wrong with the suit WB lent them. Like maybe it didn't fit Welling or didn't have all the parts, or had some kind of significant visual damage. I figured that would have made more sense for why we don't see a lot of him in suit and the scenes we do see they had to use CG.

Overall I enjoyed the last episode but the final resolution of apokolips was way too rushed it looked ridiculous.

The signing timeframe is just personal choice. Whoever officiates has to sign it as well and it's not legal until all req'd parties sign. So, depending on your religious affiliation, church, religion, whatever, there could be rules that don't allow some peopel to sign until afterwards. A lot of people do tend to sign beforehand as there have so much to do after the fact with photos, the reception, and leaving for the honeymoon, that they do it earlier so they don't have to find time later.
 
Seriously? They told us 10 years ago the flying and suit wouldn't happen. And you are pissed because they held to their word? That's like taking the virgin that took the abstinence pledge to prom and then getting mad she didn't give it up.

I think maybe you missed the part where the showrunners said that he couldn't become Superman until the end of the series. That was the end of the series. ;)

If you want a more accurate parallel, it's more like having a virgin promise you she'll have sex with you when you get married and then on your marriage night she only lets you get to second base. :p
 
You can't really.

I have a 61" TV and the shots of him in the full suit were about 3-4" tall on it. Then you have a shot of him flying next to a plane (Air Force 1) and you see his head and shoulders, but all you see of the suit is he's wearing something blue. Then at the end you have a shot of him opening the shirt and you see a (what looked like to me, and not in a good way) CGIish logo with some blue, and that's it.

The only shot of the actual suit was Jonathan handing it to him. That's it.
 
If you want a more accurate parallel, it's more like having a virgin promise you she'll have sex with you when you get married and then on your marriage night she only lets you get to second base. :p

It's more like finally getting to that moment and discovering that she wears a chastity belt and no one has the key. So close, yet so far. :lol
 
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Y'know - reading some of the posts on youtube and other sites - people talk about getting chills when he turns into Superman at the end of the show. I'm wondering just how effective these shots would be without the John Williams music. Kinda funny they always reach back to Donner when they need something done right.
 
Ususally people sign the marriage certificate before they get married. The ceremony is really only for show. It doesn't officially mean anything. Legally Lois and Clark had been married since that day.

That wouldn't make any more sense, anyway. If they were legally married, then they just pretended not to be for seven years in front of everyone who knew they were getting married seven years ago, then they planned a secret ceremony? Imagine being one of their coworkers, explaining their relationship to someone who started working there:

"They both started here pretty young. She's barely changed. That Clark dude though... He worked here for a few years before one day deciding to wear thick glasses and pretend to be clumsy - ALL THE TIME. They got engaged, we went to their wedding... They decided to go through with the wedding on the day that planet almost hit us, and there was an incident at the end and we all ran away. For the last seven years, they pretended they barely knew each other. He started calling her "Miss Lane." But today, they show up and they announced that they're married, and they both have wedding bands! I think they're nuts."

And Jet, the John Williams music carried any and all emotional weight in that scene! It's a testament to how great that score is that not even this show can rob it of its power! :thumbsup
 
That is why it made the most sense for them to just stay married. Either way the scenario you explain stands, and im sure even those close to them who know Clark's secret will be cinfused as to why they pretend not to know eachother.

Or to have the neurotoxin affect Lois as well, and Clark has to spend 7 years winning her back again.
 
:lol My Smallville mega-fan friend Dave just explained this show's Jimmy Olsen take to me. So this is not Jimmy in the finale, but his identical brother? haha this thing just keeps getting better... God knows when a job is vacated in this country, they look to your family to pick up the slack! We need as close a genetic match as possible to carry on this entry-level photography gig! haha it's like Avatar... I'll add that to the final season weird movie pickup list along with The Hangover, Blind Date, and Iron Man.
 
That is why it made the most sense for them to just stay married.

Or to have the neurotoxin affect Lois as well, and Clark has to spend 7 years winning her back again.

:thumbsup Much better ideas, though Lois probably would have been helped by everyone to re-enter her life with Clark from the outset like when someone you love loses their memory in real life. Since real life's never had much of a bearing on this show though, I would have preferred your track to theirs...
 
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