What's next for John Blake? - TDKR SPOILERS

squirk

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I know it'll be some time before we hear anything, one way or another, on whether or not WB will continue the Nolanverse with John Blake in the role of Batman (unlikely) or Nightwing (far more likely, IMHO).

Since it seems both Bale and Nolan are out for any future Batman films, does Blake become the new Batman and WB runs with Joseph Gordon-Levitt and a new director? I don't see it. First, it complicates the Batman mythology for the more casual fan for whom Batman is always Bruce Wayne. Second, it would undercut the legacy of Batman's ostensible self-sacrifice to save Gotham.

Does JGL come back as Robin? I don't see that either. I think JGL basically already was Robin (i.e., in addition to the first-name thing, he also played the "Robin" role of sidekick) in TDKR; we just didn't know it until the end. Plus, a brightly-colored superhero who uses his legal first name just doesn't fit in this universe.

I think it much more likely he comes back (if he comes back at all) as Nightwing. Batman's legacy isn't diluted by a young lesser-trained replacement, and there's much more wiggle-room with the mythology, since the masses aren't nearly as familiar with Nightwing's backstory.

But that last fact then makes me wonder if WB wants to hang its hat on a Nightwing movie, given that audiences aren't super-familiar with the character, when they could dump resources into a Batman reboot instead. I dare say a new Batman movie would sell more tickets and more merchandising than a Nightwing film.

But then I wonder if WB will be shooting for a "DC Universe" string of movies similar to how Marvel's been doing it for the last few years, even with second-tier characters. Could a new Batman movie and a Nightwing movie co-exist?

Or could WB have no plans whatsoever for the character?

Verrrrry interested in seeing how this pans out......
 
JGL has already said in interviews that the story is done, and that it's over. I don't think anything will ever be on screen with him in "that" role. Ever. It's over.

I just don't see it happening. Just my opinion. I think Nolan's Batman is done forever. (on film, at least)
 
I cant believe people still think John Blake would be anything but Batman. Batman even makes the comment to Gordon that it doesnt matter who is behind the mask. Batman is a symbol for Gotham and the city's protector. Why would he make up an entirely new character?! Why would he trash the legacy of Batman!? He would have to take years to establish that he was a hero and win over the police and Gotham citizens that he wasn't just another fan boy in hockey pants. It's not even a question whether John Blake is going to be Batman or not. Its obvious, watch the end of TDKR especially the dialog between Gordon and Batman/Bruce. Don't get me started on the Robin thing, it was a NOD!
 
I cant believe people still think John Blake would be anything but Batman. Batman even makes the comment to Gordon that it doesnt matter who is behind the mask. Batman is a symbol for Gotham and the city's protector. Why would he make up an entirely new character?! Why would he trash the legacy of Batman!? He would have to take years to establish that he was a hero and win over the police and Gotham citizens that he wasn't just another fan boy in hockey pants. It's not even a question whether John Blake is going to be Batman or not. Its obvious, watch the end of TDKR especially the dialog between Gordon and Batman/Bruce. Don't get me started on the Robin thing, it was a NOD!

Actually, he made that comment to Blake after the Lamborghini got towed.

It's obvious Blake was meant as a successor to Bruce, but in what form?

Again, I'd contend Blake would avoid being Batman so as not to lessen the impact of Batman's sacrifice at the end of the film. They put this big bronze statue of him in City Hall to memorialize him and his ultimate selfless act, and then he shows up three months later? "Hi, I'm back! I didn't give my life to save the city like you all thought."
 
I doubt they'll be going any further with the films, I think it's up to the audience to decide where it goes. My take is that JB becomes the new Batman and continues to do his thing.

As for the sacrifice angle you mentioned, Squirk, I think everyone would probably guess that it wasn't actually the same person, but it's been established that Batman is more than just a man.. he's an idea, and he can live on even after the "man" is gone. The thing that will make him different from the copycats is how he goes about being Batman, which I think will be very close to how Bruce did it.

A good comparison would be Zorro, like the Banderas films. He wasn't the original, and everyone knew it, but he maintained as a symbol.
 
Do the Gotham citizens think he is dead? Why would the Bat signal be repaired? Batman is a symbol for justice and the citizens know that. If you had a legacy of be Gotham's protector why wouldn't you continue the persona? Lessen Batman's impact or would it solidify the extent that Gotham's protector would go to for the people? Seriously watch the end of the film when Batman is speaking to Gordon before he takes off. Batman is a mantle that John Blake would take up, there are no other heroes or charcaters in this universe so why would he be like "Ya know all this work Batman created is worth nothing so hey I'll be my own masked avenger". I'm not buying it.
 
Joker breaks out of Arkham, Bat-Blake goes after him. Joker sees that it's not "his" Batman, gets bored, and shoots Blake in the face.
 
Joker breaks out of Arkham, Bat-Blake goes after him. Joker sees that it's not "his" Batman, gets bored, and shoots Blake in the face.

Yeah. I agree with The Joker.
I don't want anyone in the batsuit but Wayne either.

Blake has to do his own thing.
 
They'll reboot it with a new cast. You won't see Blake again. Neither will you see Oldman, Caine or, thankfully, the Tumbler again.
 
I don't see them continuing this version of the bat mythos if Man of Steel takes off and they move into JLA territory. TDKR might have been the swan song of unincorporated DC universe movies. But, if Man of Steel bites the big one DC could be wallowing in not quite good enough land for years before they get their **** together enough to do the JLA right.
 
Do the Gotham citizens think he is dead? Why would the Bat signal be repaired? Batman is a symbol for justice and the citizens know that. If you had a legacy of be Gotham's protector why wouldn't you continue the persona? Lessen Batman's impact or would it solidify the extent that Gotham's protector would go to for the people? Seriously watch the end of the film when Batman is speaking to Gordon before he takes off. Batman is a mantle that John Blake would take up, there are no other heroes or charcaters in this universe so why would he be like "Ya know all this work Batman created is worth nothing so hey I'll be my own masked avenger". I'm not buying it.

Well, I guess it doesn't matter what we "buy," but what WB will actually do.

And I guess what I'm trying to say is that the original Batman is a hard act to follow - if for no other reason than the seven years of very intensive training. Could Blake live up to it? Should he even try? Or would he carry on in the spirit of Batman, if not the name?

But if Blake really is supposed to be the new Batman, then I agree that there won't be a John Blake/Batman movie.
 
This is how it would play out in my mind, John Blake becomes Batman and fails. Bruce Wayne comes back to help, becoming Batman again while John Blake becomes Nightwing.
 
Everything that was implied pointed to Blake being Batman, as was mentioned, the bat signal was rebuilt. I do seriously doubt that we will ever see Blake again, it was a billed as the end of the saga and so I believe thats it, we'll get a reboot in a few years.
 
He uses his findings to fund his lab work - changes his name to Rex. He starts working with a man named McCullen and finds his step-sister Ana....
 
It's happening but we won't see it onscreen.

Just like Sam is still bartending at Cheers.

Yeah, you're probably right. I never really cared for JGL on "Third Rock"; found him a bit annoying. However, he really turned me around with "Brick," "(500) Days of Summer," "Inception" and "TDKR".

Seems a shame that he builds up to this crescendo at the end of the film, but won't get the chance to carry it forward.
 
The casual Bat-fan thinks Batman and Bruce Wayne are the same person, which isn't true. Bruce Wayne is a front, while Batman is the real person. People who follow the Batman mythos shouldn't mind a different man dawning the cowl, because it has been done to varying forms of success before.

Batman Beyond, Azrael, Dick Grayson (Grant Morrison's Batman and Robin,) etc.

If I'm not mistaken, wasn't it rumored that Nolan was supposed to oversee the Batman re-boot? Well he just set himself up by establishing Blake as the new Batman. I think they replace Oldman with his onscreen "son" who could be close to his mid 20s as JGL's police partner, they could use the orphan boy as JGL's Robin, etc. They have set themselves up will if they want to move forward, and from what we saw in TDKR they know how to set things up from one film to the 3rd.
 
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