What is the significance of luke and the binary suns scene in a new hope to you

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  1. JBLAKE

    JBLAKE Well-Known Member

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    Always has been near and dear for me that very special scene with the emotions, the unknown future, the rising music and the warming glow of the setting suns. Just a Beautiful Scene.

    Has it ever been written anywhere the official meaning of that scene and better yet what did that scene mean to you the 1st time you saw it.

    To me that scene meant Hope, Comfort and Exciting New Horizons and Adventures ahead from the 1st time I saw it.
     
  2. SciFiMuseum

    SciFiMuseum Well-Known Member

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    I think you nailed it. I always thought it was hopeful but sad. Here is a kid that completely feels that he just doesn't belong where he is, a backwater moisture farm dust ball of a planet. He wants to join the academy just to get out of there. He dreams of all the adventures that he knows are someplace else. Anywhere but where he is. Also he is adopted, wants desperately to know who his parents are, who he is. It is all in that scene.
     
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  3. jcoffman99

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    Best use of music in a film ever!
     
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  4. OldKen

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    I agree with all 3 posts.

    It blew me away as a kid.

    Almost like a last tear before you wipe your eyes and face the world (Galaxy) type of moment.

    A major impact on me the first time I saw it... Moreso than Vader, light sabers, etc etc.

     
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  5. Riceball

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    I'm going to take a Hemingway approach to this one. It was about a boy staring out into the distance. :D Sometimes a fish is just a fish. :D
     
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  6. astroboy

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    I re watched the prequels a little while ago. In one big marathon. And I have to say, when it got to that final moment when we saw those twin suns and uncle owen looking out, I got pretty choked up
     
  7. JLeezy23

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    Sun setting = something ending
    Tomorrow's sun rise = the unknown yet to come
    His farm boy life is coming to an end, but he has no clue what the future holds. Between the sunset and the sunrise is a big section of rest but also excitement, time to prepare for the future yet also no time to waste on the past. Its in between his lives and at that moment watching the setting shows that he is accepting this as his fate. Same for the end of Ep III, end of one life, beginning of another, and here we are in between at the moment.
     
  8. Darth Lars

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    It is the coming of age thing. Big chances are looming in Luke's life, and he can feel it: being both eager and anxious about it.
     
  9. Randy13

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    I was 10 years old the first time I saw this and didn’t see the deeper meaning behind this scene. However, it did stand out to me and because of the music, I did feel something important and emotional was going on but I was more interesting in seeing the droids and vehicles. I was also thinking it must get pretty hot on that planet with two suns.
     
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  10. Laspector

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    Is it sun sets or suns set?
     
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  11. NotAMoon

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    An excuse to say "Hey look, they've got 2 moons! This totally isn't Africa!"?
     
  12. Apollo

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    Cinematically it illustrates, for me that is, when everything comes together emotionally in a shot, Plot, Visual, and score.

    There were times when I would be cruising down the Mount Vernon Parkway at sunset in my Trans Am with the t-tops off and it would magically remind me of that shot
     
  13. Goonie

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    One is the dark side. One is the light side. Put 'em side by side and you get... Spaceballs!
     
  14. Marv

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    Hhhmmm, I really love the bit when Roy Batty has just killed his maker and he descends the building in the lift.
     
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  15. NeoRutty

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    I don't want to get off topic... but the music in Bladerunner blew my mind (I only just saw it the first time a year ago). Opening shot going into the Tyrell corp... Vangelis music... It was VERY reminiscent of how I felt hearing Star Wars score for the first time as a kid.
     
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  16. James Kenobi 1138

    James Kenobi 1138 Master Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    To me it's just another scene in the movie. I've always just seen it as showing a restless youth wanting more and wanting to go out and have an adventure.
     
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  17. batguy

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    According to Rinzler that sunset was shot on Monday, March 29th 1976, at about 5:00pm. For some reason I always remember that.
     
  18. halliwax

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    when i was little i always thought it was a real sad scene and that uncle owen was a real jerk! lol
     
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  19. CB2001

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    To me, I always saw it as the suns setting on his old life on the farm, as the following scene set up him being lured away from the farm to go after R2, and he was about to begin the path into the new life he was going to have in the morning (which is also symbolic, as dawn is considered a start).
     
  20. dascoyne

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    On Tatooine there's nothing to to but look at the sunset.
     
  21. Treadwell

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    I'm really surprised by the interpretations here.

    I think folks are forgetting the context of the scene. He just left dinner where Owen crushed his dreams. He isn't looking at adventures ahead, he's looking at adventures he thinks he'll never have. He's stuck. "Looks like I'm going nowhere."

    It's a scene of sadness and yearning. There is no hope, comfort or excitement in it. We might know his future holds those things but the character, at this moment, does not.
     
  22. tripoli

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    "I think folks are forgetting the context of the scene. He just left dinner where Owen crushed his dreams. He isn't looking at adventures ahead, he's looking at adventures he thinks he'll never have. He's stuck. "Looks like I'm going nowhere."

    It's a scene of sadness and yearning. There is no hope, comfort or excitement in it. We might know his future holds those things but the character, at this moment, does not"

    Yep, absolutely.
    You also have the analogy of the first son rising and then the second son rising, followed by their sunset. The mythological father son analogy was pretty strong throughout the series.
     
  23. dascoyne

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    Luke was listening to the John Williams score.
     
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  24. kegas76

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    Foreshadowing: Twins walking across the sky.
     
  25. SSgt Burton

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    What did it mean to me at seven years of age (back when I first saw the scene in 1977)...

    "Oh wow! There are TWO suns!" (I was seven after all ;) ).


    What does it mean for me now?


    It is the classic "call to adventure" for Luke; the potential hero. However Luke is also the "reluctant hero" because Owen is purposely holding him back. The suns setting= time is running out.


    Kevin
     
  26. Bryancd

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    When I saw it at age 8 I took it as he wanted to leave and go into space. I don't think I was too far off. :)
     
  27. CessnaDriver

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    Youth longing for what is beyond the horizon of their ordinary life, easy to relate to when young.
    But now for me, still a reminder when older, don't lose that longing even if your not destined to blow up a death star.
     
  28. astroboy

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    To me it was very musical theatre. So often in musical theatre there is the "ballad of longing". It's where our protagonist wishes for a better future. For "tomorrow" or "somewhere that's green" or "some enchanted evening"
     
  29. Treadwell

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    Speaking of the music, here is the scene with the original cue synched up.
    https://vimeo.com/127616212

    Lucas asked Williams to do it again, bigger, and with the Force theme. Good call.
     
  30. CessnaDriver

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    No kidding.
    Honestly that moment is my touchstone to center me back on the OT and the magic.
     
  31. niennumb1

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    Summed up perfectly for me.
     
  32. CessnaDriver

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    Hamill did a fantastic job as well. The longing in the eyes, the return to his eyes in the dirt of his present situation.
     
  33. jcoffman99

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    Thanks for sharing that video. Never heard that before.
     
  34. batguy

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    These days we spend so much time bashing GL, and talking about how his co-workers deserve more of the credit . . . it's nice to hear an occasional example of GL making the right call & getting something better out of his top people.

    Some moments in that video above remind me of the Jaws soundtrack. Jaws was only 2 years back at the time.
     
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  35. dascoyne

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    He's longing to be at the Toshi station.
     
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    "Power converters. If it weren't for those Jawas, I'd have my power converters."
     

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