wanted: some help finding a printer who can print on newsprint

[bondoking]

Since Superman came out in 77-78 Ive wanted the newspaper seen in the movie, but either couldnt afford it or couldnt find it. Well I finnally caved in and made my own. Its not an exact repro, but its close enough for me. Here comes the problem, every copy store Ive gone too cant print on anything close to newsprint. They can print the size and even print the material (no prob with copywrite material) Ive also been told that going to an actual printing press place would be expensive. Any ideas?

 

[phase pistol]

You can Xerox onto newsprint. I don't know if they have it in stock at Kinko's, but you can buy pads of newsprint at art stores (intended for charcoal drawing).

- k

 

[bondoking]

<div class='quotetop'>(phase pistol @ Jun 26 2006, 08:24 PM) [snapback]1268877[/snapback]</div>

You can Xerox onto newsprint. I don't know if they have it in stock at Kinko's, but you can buy pads of newsprint at art stores (intended for charcoal drawing).

- k
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Kinkos said newsprint may jam the printer

 

[Jedirick]

Some places call it a pencil tablet but it is newsprint paper.

Comes in many sizes

http://www.dickblick.com/zz103/11/

 

[phase pistol]

Are there any copy shops other than Kinko's? :lol

I'm not being rhetorical, I just don't know anymore. :confused

- k

 

[bondoking]

<div class='quotetop'>(Jedirick @ Jun 26 2006, 08:37 PM) [snapback]1268886[/snapback]</div>

Some places call it a pencil tablet but it is newsprint paper.

Comes in many sizes

http://www.dickblick.com/zz103/11/
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thanks alot for your help...
this gives me some avenues to try.

 

[phase pistol]

Actually my own inkjet printer has an adjustment lever for different weights of paper... I don't see why the pro machines they use at Kinko's would be any different.

Besides, my experience of laser printers and xerox copiers, is that they have a readily accessible paper path, which can be easily cleared if there's a jam.

If the machines now in use at Kinko's can't be easily cleared of a jam, I'd say that would be huge step backwards in technology. :confused

Probably the clerk drone you talked to just didn't want to be bothered. :lol

- k

 

[jddurst]

I have used a blueprint service in my area, with good results. Of course we were doing a run of quite a few to make a stack of newspapers, and they could only print on one side, but it might be worth a phone call or two.

 

[jedi_adrian]

<div class='quotetop'>(Hero of Canton @ Jun 26 2006, 08:09 PM) [snapback]1268907[/snapback]</div>

I have used a blueprint service in my area, with good results. Of course we were doing a run of quite a few to make a stack of newspapers, and they could only print on one side, but it might be worth a phone call or two.
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I would recoommend an inket. look for some one who has access to the epson 2200, this large format printer can printo onto anything. the best this is it has a horizintal load feature. hope this helps.

 

[CaptCBoard]

I have an Epson 1280. It prints oversized stuff and I've done actual-size newspaper pages (like 13 by 20) with it, on newsprint. Go to an art store and get a pad of newsprint larger than the size you want to print. Take it to a print shop and have them guillotine the entire pad to the size you need, this way you have plenty of paper. The pad will cost about $15 and the printer might charge you $10 to cut it down.

If you can find a copy machine that takes this size of paper, you can feed it one sheet at a time and make beautiful copies. Newsprint only jams when you try to feed from a stack-feeder.

Scott

 

[Kris]

Newspaper printing places mostly have excess paper. It is printed on roools, and are attached together, but there should be excess of them.

 

[justtheintern]

As someone that has done this before, here are some tips:
find a local printer that does sign/photo work and will work with you to match the color of a swatch of newsprint. Not to knock Kinkos, but they may not be the best place to go if you need to make a lot of special requests. If you print on bond paper (which is thin and low quality, like regular printer paper) you will have a print that will look just like newsprint and it will LAST. This is ideal if you are making a replica prop that you'd like to preserve. If you have the means to print on newsprint it will look great but once the paper meets ink, the appearance of the paper rapidly declines. In a year you will have a dingy, yellowed newspaper, in 10 years it will fall to pieces.
If you must print on newsprint, there is a resource called New York Fakery on the east coast that can print newsprint and also stocks a "newsprint tinted bond" that will outlast regular newsprint.
Large newspapers like New York Times, Wall St Journal, etc. print their proofs on tinted bond before they go to press. If you find a small local press that does newspaper printing it will be incredibly expensive and inefficient to run a single print.
If you attempt to run newsprint through your own printer, purchase "rough" newsprint, not "smooth" try to print on an inkjet as they can easily handle different weights of paper. In your overall design add a 10-20 % transparency layer of white on top of your design. If you do not do this, photos will appear too dark and bold black text will be muddled illegible on small fonts. If you look at a real newspaper, the blacks are more like dark grays anyway.
Xerox copy machines will demolish newsprint and immediately jam because the paper is so thin and fragile. Don't even try it, it won't work.

 

[kurtyboy]

Good luck. I couldn't find even one place in the UK that would do newsprint in a large format in decent quality in low numbers. Not one. And I searched for the best part of 6 - 8 months.

Of course there are plenty places who will do runs of 1000.

 

[LazySusan]

I have printed on A3 epson printer onto very thin newprint, the blocky black text (of my fake headline) did crinkle the paper a bit due to ink density. so I'm just braving to iron it with a dry iron? I fed it one sheet at a time with a normal sheet behind. And I cut it down to the size I wanted after the fact as normal sizes just work better and confuse me and the printer less. Good luck! If it's an important project, there are flat bed printers that must do it? Would cost a lot though.

 

[stussy]

better late than never

 

[TazMan2000]

As long as this necropost is revived... If you can find a roll of 2" or 3" core newsprint, about 52GSM you can probably get it printed on an inkjet...maybe. The print density would have to be adjusted since the ink would soak through easily and cause problems. Toner based plotters may be able to print loose sheets, however, they might jam. The jams could be removed, but if they don't get all the scraps out, it could cause further problems and then the business wouldn't be able to use the machine until a tech comes to fix it. So it's doubtful that a print office would chance taking down one of their expensive machines for a small job.

Most modern flatbeds, use an ink that cures with UV light. There are special set ups to print on something so flimsy as newsprint, as most flatbeds have vacuum beds to hold down the media. Vacuum pressure would have to be adjusted or a special substrate would have to be used. More set up time equals a lot more money.

The problem is, getting that paper. It is very rare on a roll, since almost nobody, other than newspaper printers need that sort of paper on a roll. The newspapers use immense rolls that a forklift has to load. Most inkjet printers do not handle loose sheets.

So...what's left? There are a few websites that offer small runs on newspaper print. Google one in your local area. Most likely, its going to be expensive and probably there is a minimum charge for setup, and a minimum run.

i.e. Newspaper Club - Make and print your own newspapers

TazMan2000