Vader revealed mask parts

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  1. gladus63

    gladus63 Active Member

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    Is these the same "eyes" than the ones used in ROTJ revealed inside mask ?

    Cedric
     
  2. gladus63

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    The pic is bad due to the flash, I will try tomorrow to renew the pic
     
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    pic renewed
     
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    I don't think the ROTJ mask had shutter eyes, the ROTS one did and these look right. What camera are they from?'

    Nathan
     
  6. jme3

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    Just the opposite in fact. The ROTJ reveal did have shutters behind the eye lenses and the left eye (as seen from inside the mask) had a Copal MXV shutter similar to the shutter on the right in the photo above with slight differences in the self-timer cover and the slow speed governor. The shutter cocking lever was also trimmed off (arrow) on the original. The right-side shutter has never been resolved in photos, atleast none that I've seen, and so is presently unidentified as a result. If anyone is ever able to produce any closeup shots of the original it would only be a matter of time in finding it as well.

    Not the clearest of pics but here's one identical to the studio original left side shutter with the areas different from the one in the above right photo highlighted:
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    Edit: Credit to Wackychimp for photo hosting.
     
  7. gladus63

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    So it needs some mod before it goes in my revealed helmet .
     
  8. gladus63

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    So the left one is more accurate as I see on your pic ?
     
  9. jme3

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    Actually it would be a mix of the two of the shutters in your photo but the result still wouldn't be 100% correct. These Copal shutters came in a variety of designs and even ones within the same family (MXV as is the case here) could be functionally identical to one another but would differ in their part design and layout. It can be an expensive hit and miss endeavor finding the exact one so if you're not planning on absolute precision then either of the ones in your photo would be okay.
     
  10. gladus63

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    Thanks, that's what I will do,
     
  11. gladus63

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    I'm impress how far some people have gone in that hobby .
     
  12. vadermania

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    Maybe this helps. It's a pic of the inside of the original ROTJ reveal mask.

    Cheers, Tom

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  13. kurtyboy

    kurtyboy Master Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Nice picture Thomas ;)
     
  14. gladus63

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    Very nice pic .

    thanks for sharing
     
  15. jme3

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    How long have you had this photo??. This has to be atleast from the Smithsonian exhibit (if not sooner?) as the mask after that point began its deterioration inside whereby the cloth dropped over the right side shutter obscuring almost half of it. Although not a straight-on shot it is without question the clearest one I have ever seen of the right side shutter. :thumbsup :D

    Thank you for posting this shot. Now let the search begin. :)

    Rgs,
    James





     
  16. jme3

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    After looking over this new photo and comparing it to some of the shutters I accumulated while looking for the left side shutter, it seems this one is from the Citizen family of shutters. It's hard to be absolutely certain due to the angle of the photo but the lower-most housing (underlined) appears consistent with a couple that I have. Other areas are not exact (and again it's hard to tell) but it suggests they're from the same make. The self timer (arrow) has had its stem removed just like the Copal shutter on the left side and the shutter cocking lever seems to still be there (circle) somewhat. There was also a shutter called a Prontor on TLR (twin lense relfex) cameras of that age. I've never seen one of those but it's possible that those were similar to or even made by Citizen. I'm not an expert by any means but I know a good deal more now than I did before I started this search years ago. :p

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  17. vadermania

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    The pic is a detail of a larger pic from the complete inside of the mask, which I actually held in my hand for the photograph in 1995.

    Tom

     
  18. OdiWan72

    OdiWan72 Master Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    You held in in your own hands??? :eek

    WHat would you charge for some detailed pics of the masks interior? :D

    Markus
     
  19. Howard

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    How's this?
    Is this the correct part?
    :D

    Howard.
     
  20. gladus63

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    Where does it cames from ?
     
  21. Howard

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    POST EDIT.
    Due to my complete gibberish.


    Howard.
     
  22. jme3

    jme3 Sr Member

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    Howard,

    PM sent....





     
  23. jme3

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    What a coup. Would that I were so fortunate.

    Thanks again for posting that photo. :)

    Rgs,
    James
     
  24. gonk27

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    Wow, you're very lucky indeed. If that had been me I'd have been very tempted to make a run for it although I'm not sure how far I'd have got :p

    Thanks for posting such a great shot of the camera shutters and ellusive fabric Tom.


    Jeremy
     

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