UK bans the import of *anything remotely harmful*...

[xAngelx]

Re: UK bans the import of replica props...

Here's another thought;

I can still buy crossbows right?

I'm not sure if this has been covered in this thread yet but they don't fall under the gun laws, they have their own. You can own/sell/buy them legally in this country, you're just not allowed to hunt with them.

So how can I be allowed to waltz into a shop or sit at my PC and buy a crossbow, which can fire a bolt (with a point on the end) at 225 feet per second, lethal up to something like 60 feet or metres (i forget), but I'm not allowed to buy a little BB gun or a solid piece of resin in the shape of a revolver from an Anime?

 

[LeMarchand]

Re: UK bans the import of replica props...

Here's another thought;

I can still buy crossbows right?

I'm not sure if this has been covered in this thread yet but they don't fall under the gun laws, they have their own. You can own/sell/buy them legally in this country, you're just not allowed to hunt with them.

So how can I be allowed to waltz into a shop or sit at my PC and buy a crossbow, which can fire a bolt (with a point on the end) at 225 feet per second, lethal up to something like 60 feet or metres (i forget), but I'm not allowed to buy a little BB gun or a solid piece of resin in the shape of a revolver from an Anime?

because gunlaws that restrict the sale of replica weapons like airsoft are only made by politicians as a 'quickfix' to please the uninformed people

 

[xAngelx]

Re: UK bans the import of replica props...

Does Importation include getting on a plane with it in your luggage if you declare it?

Sorry for all the questions, my dad lives in Spain and I'm wondering if I'd be able to get him to bring them over when he comes at xmas.

 

[Blad]

Re: UK bans the import of replica props...

Does Importation include getting on a plane with it in your luggage if you declare it?

Sorry for all the questions, my dad lives in Spain and I'm wondering if I'd be able to get him to bring them over when he comes at xmas.

Yes it does.

It depends how they actually implement the law. I have heard that 'they' are not interested in 'Rayguns', I can't see that including blasters based on Sterling Sub-machine guns though! I would have thought that taking a replica weapon as hold-baggage would almost certainly get you unwanted interest!

 

[rider]

Re: UK bans the import of replica props...

When I was very young, one summer holiday I bought a toy cowboy cap gun overseas, it was made out of metal, but plastic handle and a blatant bright red plastic end cap in the barrel. But it caused a mild panic at the airport when scanning our luggage, the security were going to confiscate it, but I mildly pleaded with them that its a harmless toy and I didn't want to lose it if I didn't have to. They thought it over, but instead of just okaying it and letting it go back in the suitcase, they put it in a clear security bag, tagged it and it had to go on the plane in the luggage compartment on its own. (They confiscated all my caps instead).

When we arrived at Heathrow, all I remember was having to wait for it on the luggage train, and people see it, this gun in a clear bag on its own coming by and naturally freak out a little, then (me) this little kid spots it and picks it up and everyone’s staring at me with worry for a few seconds, like what’s a kid doing picking up a blatant security tagged gun. Crazy…

 

[Eagle]

Re: UK bans the import of replica props...

It will all boil down to what would get you shot.

If you pointed it at an armed police officer, would they shoot you? If yes, then it'll come under the ban.

 

[Emeldahay]

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A coffee table leg is enough to get you killed as in the infamous case of the mistaken IRA man some years a go.

Im sure a pointed finger and/or and errection in your pocket is cause enough for some police.

 

[Eagle]

Re: UK bans the import of replica props...

True, but they're legislating against replica firearms, not pieces of furniture.

 

[JOATRASH FX]

Re: UK bans the import of replica props...

So... is no one going to use the gallery or fan-film defense?

 

[defstartrooper]

Re: UK bans the import of replica props...

It's a ludicrous law that will not only not stop crimes it creates new ones.

How can you ban something on the premise that it could be used to commit a crime ?
Just about anything could be used to commit a crime.

Should we ban vehicles on the grounds that someone could use one to speed,park illegally,joyride,smash & grab,flee a robbery etc ?

It's laughable isn't it ? since Labour have come to power they have introduced over 3000 new pieces of legislation 3000 new ways for people to break laws that probably are not really needed in the first place.

Ebay are already pulling replicas off their site here a friend of mines just had all his resin mausers,biker pistols and E11's taken off for breaking listings rules despite the fact he has been selling these replicas on there for years now.

The UK has become a lilly livered washed up nanny state it's so overlegislated now it's more like a dictatorship disguised as a democracy if i had the funds i would be out of here that's for sure

 

[xAngelx]

Re: UK bans the import of replica props...

I'm emailing my MP and noting Crossbows, knives, axes and baseball bats as examples of dangerous weapons that can be bought legally.

 

[Kadajiroth]

Re: UK bans the import of replica props...

Less than six weeks, folks... :thumbsdown

6 weeks?! You guys better be stocking-up on your replica firearms, etc., fast!

 

[defstartrooper]

Re: UK bans the import of replica props...

I'm emailing my MP and noting Crossbows, knives, axes and baseball bats as examples of dangerous weapons that can be bought legally.

And if anything all they will do is ban those aswell

 

[kes]

Re: UK bans the import of replica props...

And in the meantime 'real' gun and knife crime goes spiralling out of control, with the politicians and police unwilling to take on the gang culture that is endemic here now.

 

[Eagle]

Re: UK bans the import of replica props...

So... is no one going to use the gallery or fan-film defense?

The fan film is shakey at best (unless you're actually making a fan film); the gallery defence doesn't apply to displays in the home.

As far as I've read and understood...

 

[spcglider@aol.com]

Re: UK bans import of replica firearms...

If someone was going to rob me at gunpoint, I'd RATHER have the pointing a replica at me (even if I didn't know it) than a real gun. Wouldn't you? At least you won't be dying from a mis-fire or a nervous trigger finger.

But the problem here is like what happens so often in America: They're punishing an inanimate object. The police already treat every situation involving a replica gun (no matter how it's dressed) as a real weapon. If you commit a robbery with a fake gun, you're getting treated like you committed it with a real gun. Which is just the way it should be.

But what's next? Outlawing replica cricket bats because you could potentially use them to beat someone to death just like a real cricket bat?

I mean, what, has there been soem sort of outrageous RASH of robberies with fake guns that this is somehow a reaction to a rising wave of crime? I doubt it.

Its more like politicians attacking a relatively isolated group of people (who can't really fight back) to make it look like they're "actually doing something" to earn their bloated salaries. they'll be able to stand there proudly and declare that they kept the streets of London safe from completely harmless fake guns.

-G

 

[Eagle]

Re: UK bans the import of replica props...

^ I agree.

Still, what's done is done. The law will never be reversed so we may as well learn to live with it.

 

[CustomCreations]

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I am sure there are ways around the problem- if the problem is importing then hopefully a 'sci-fi model kit' on the box should go a long way to prevent unwanted attention?
I have just come back from my local supermarket.
A girl in front of me, not a day UNDER 18, was refused service for an offensive weapon because of no age ID.
the weapon?
A a 99p pair of tweezers.
No, really.
With laws like that, learning to live with it will probably be easier than trying to fight it?

 

[Eagle]

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Lol.

I can quite believe it...

 

[Blad]

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And in the meantime 'real' gun and knife crime goes spiralling out of control, with the politicians and police unwilling to take on the gang culture that is endemic here now.

That's the thing Kes, gun and knife crime are NOT spiraling out of control. A brief search on google will give you all the reported figures for crimes from the Met and nationally and all show crime is reducing. Some gun crime statistics are higher, but it's limited to inner city areas. In fact gun and knife crimes are considerably lower than the 'golden age' 100 years ago with a population that has doubled.