TRON Legacy question thread

[Jedifyfe]

Here's are a couple of questions:

1) Why did Flynn's Disc turn black when he was back on the grid? I know that the script called for it to be black again so that Clu wouldn't know the difference between Flynn's and Quorra's but why have it white to begin with?

2) What was the purpose of Quorra's exposition about Flynn's lightcycle still being the fastest on the grid. That line never paid off. Cut scene maybe?

 

[Organic Mechanic]

1) He's a User, he MADE it change colors to better suit his needs.

2) I thought so too.

 

[Larry Young]

2) What was the purpose of Quorra's exposition about Flynn's lightcycle still being the fastest on the grid. That line never paid off. Cut scene maybe?

I can't believe the emphasis folks are putting on that line. It's a throwaway, off-camera, and delivered almost as an aside. She's just making conversation about a prop that's in there to sell another toy.

 

[Risu]

Also, she probably didn't have a lot to talk about. Have you ever given a tour of your prop room? "Oh yeah, that's Luke's lightsaber from Empire Strikes Back........ it's different than the ones in the other movies....... actually that one is technically from the Dagobah scenes specifically." Filling the silence.

 

[CB2001]

Here's are a couple of questions:

1) Why did Flynn's Disc turn black when he was back on the grid? I know that the script called for it to be black again so that Clu wouldn't know the difference between Flynn's and Quorra's but why have it white to begin with?

2) What was the purpose of Quorra's exposition about Flynn's lightcycle still being the fastest on the grid. That line never paid off. Cut scene maybe?

1. I have reason to believe the disc changed colors is because he changed outfits. If he had wore his white outfit, it would have remained white. By changing to a black outfit, it changed to black in concordance with the outfit he chose.

2. Other than Flynn, she hasn't talked to another User before. And since she knows that Sam has never been on the grid before. So, she's not only trying to converse with another user, she is also trying to find out about the world outside the Grid (as she asks Sam if he knows Jules Verne and what is he like). Of course, it could be as simple as someone else said, the awkwardness of giving a "tour" of their residence.

 

[DARTH SABER]

I think the light cycle line might have just been a social commentary on human made vs machine made.

Didn't Quorra mention that Flynn built that bike himself?

 

[CB2001]

I think the light cycle line might have just been a social commentary on human made vs machine made.

Didn't Quorra mention that Flynn built that bike himself?

I think she did. But if it was a commentary, it's about how old tends to better than new sometimes. For example, an old-school American muscle car is favored over most foreign made rice rockets. Or, it could be commenting how we, as a technically advanced society, tend to disregard some older technologies which may be less flawed and works better than most recent technologies.

 

[micdavis]

It seemed like a lead to a later chase where the "fastest" would make the difference. But all he did was ride it on in.

No pay off. If it was in fact a set-up.

 

[Lancer]

well I know what I want to be driving when there is an EMP blast takes out all the electronics in the world.

all those ancient 'basic' cars will just keep on trucking while all the new fancy computer engine management controlled machines will just come to a grinding halt.

 

[Jedifyfe]

I can't believe the emphasis folks are putting on that line. It's a throwaway, off-camera, and delivered almost as an aside. She's just making conversation about a prop that's in there to sell another toy.

IF that's true it was a poorly planned line as it came at a time where Sam's character was information gathering about his father and the audience was paying attention. I would think, as a comic book writer, you would agree that NO line of dialog should be wasted or a throw-away. Right? I mean "throw away" lines usually are given by no-name characters that don't have much to offer, but this was delivered by a main character.

It seemed like a lead to a later chase where the "fastest" would make the difference. But all he did was ride it on in.

No pay off. If it was in fact a set-up.

That's what I thought. I will bet there is a deleted scene somewhere.

 

[Larry Young]

IF that's true it was a poorly planned line as it came at a time where Sam's character was information gathering about his father and the audience was paying attention. I would think, as a comic book writer, you would agree that NO line of dialog should be wasted or a throw-away. Right?

I may be the wrong guy to ask, because I wrote an entire issue of LIVE FROM THE MOON that didn't advance the plot whatsoever and was merely the three main characters sitting in a rocket drinking beer and swapping stories on the three days to the moon. I'm also the guy who burned eight pages of an action-adventure graphic novel having dental hygienists have a trivia contest with each other in an office.

I think there's room for all sorts of stuff in your script, and I don't think throwaway lines are a waste. This one shows off a facet of Quorra's character, for example, as Risu, CB2001, and Darth Saber upthread point out.

 

[Straker]

IF that's true it was a poorly planned line as it came at a time where Sam's character was information gathering about his father and the audience was paying attention. I would think, as a comic book writer, you would agree that NO line of dialog should be wasted or a throw-away. Right? I mean "throw away" lines usually are given by no-name characters that don't have much to offer, but this was delivered by a main character.

Yeah but this wasn't a comic book XD In my mind it seems to me (and this is just my opinion) That because Sam was looking at the Light Cycle that 1: Looked like his toy as a kid 2: Was standing there in that room that she decided to tell him something about it. Does it seem like a lead in to something? Yeah but it didn't need to be. I was wondering why, if no other vehicle could leave the Grid and follow the Light Runner because of the rough terrain then how come a Light Cycle with no off road capabilities could? XD



As for the change in disc color, well, it IS just information itself even if it stores information. That being the case I would go with the change in his clothes changed its color. It could be that when he changed his robes for the black outfit, that when he plugged his disc to his back it changed the color. Like a desktop theme or an applience that can change the color of its display based on what it's doing. XD After all, Sam's suit automatically changed between helmets when he was on a Lightcycle or in the Disc Wars arena so it seems the suits have an automatic adaptive capability. Makes sense that the Identity Disc does as well.

 

[Jedifyfe]

I think there's room for all sorts of stuff in your script, and I don't think throwaway lines are a waste.

I have to disagree. At least in Hollywood where scripts are re-written and re-written throughout the entire shoot of a film, "throw-away" lines are EXTREMELY rare.

 

[OldKen]

I was wondering why, if no other vehicle could leave the Grid and follow the Light Runner because of the rough terrain then how come a Light Cycle with no off road capabilities could? XD
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Now THAT is a plot hole. :unsure Hadn't thought about that.

Maybe the town can be accesed from a different path than from the grid?

 

[Larry Young]

I have to disagree. At least in Hollywood where scripts are re-written and re-written throughout the entire shoot of a film, "throw-away" lines are EXTREMELY rare.

I think we're just using "throwaway" differently. As I said, it's more of the way it's delivered and presented. I mean it to mean more "off-hand," and like the lads said, it illuminates Quorra's character.

 

[Jedifyfe]

Now THAT is a plot hole. :unsure Hadn't thought about that.

Maybe the town can be accesed from a different path than from the grid?

Well remember that in the original TRON the lightcycles could travel "off the grid", so this may be why Flynn made his own. Also in Clu's race for perfection, this may be a flaw in his design.

 

[DARTH SABER]

At the end of the film, what did Sam Flynn put around his neck?

Was that a card with Quorra's info or his dad's?

 

[Straker]

Now THAT is a plot hole. :unsure Hadn't thought about that.

Maybe the town can be accesed from a different path than from the grid?

Is is a hole and one that they avoided explaining with the clever use of not telling or showing anything XD

As for a path, that is an idea but they never say so...*shrugs*

Still I can overlook that either way XD

 

[Jedifyfe]

I think we're just using "throwaway" differently. As I said, it's more of the way it's delivered and presented. I mean it to mean more "off-hand," and like the lads said, it illuminates Quorra's character.

I think we will go around and around in circles on this one. Since this is not a weekly edition of a paper or comic that can wrap up off-handed comments from the main characters, almost EVERY line is crucial to the plot. Also the mere fact that Flynn had a completely different lightcycle adds to the mystery to it's capabilities and look. I truly have a GOOD feeling that there is more to this comment.

 

[Straker]

Well remember that in the original TRON the lightcycles could travel "off the grid", so this may be why Flynn made his own. Also in Clu's race for perfection, this may be a flaw in his design.

Well yes, they could but if that's the case Clu could send an army of light cycles or Recognizers after him. XD

At the end of the film, what did Sam FLynn put around his neck?

Was that a card with Quorra's info or his dad's?

I'm guessing that it was his fathers Identity Disc information. the card had a symbol on it very similar to the concentric circles on the old style Identity Discs from the 82 film. It was described as being a Master Key so I'm guessing it was very important.