JohnHolliday
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Thank You Brotherkeep em comin, love your depth of research and the sharing
Thank You Brotherkeep em comin, love your depth of research and the sharing
Always a colossal task to actually claim one is more favored than his others but I obsess over this one so I put my claim on this one as my favorite. This vest is a masterwork.Posted this little bit of information on my Facebook page this morning.
Val's/Doc's Second Outfit
Here is the next outfit you see Doc wearing in the movie Tombstone. I like to call this outfit "Welcome to Tombstone" as this is the outfit Doc is wearing when he first meets the Earps when they arrive in town.
Doc's outfit consist of these items....................
1. Doc's Black Cowboy Hat (he wears this hat throughout the entire movie).
2. A Silk Maroon Cravat with a Diamond Stud Tie Pin.
3. Doc's shirt is a (from what I can tell) a White tuxedo shirt with a wing tip collar and pleated bib.
4. Doc's pants are black and white pinstripe frontier wool pant.
5. Doc is wearing a gray town frock coat. The coat comes down to right above the knees and it has three buttons on the front that are covered with the same fabric as the coat, and there are two of the same buttons on the back of the coat. The coat has a pocket flap on each side of the coat and a breast pocket on the upper lefthand side on the front of the coat.
6. Doc's vest is a silver double breasted vest with a very unique pattern which also appears to have black polka dots in it. The vest has eight silver buttons, and it seems to have a shawl collar (rounded). I do not see any pockets in this vest as Doc is not wearing his pocket watch with it.
7. Doc is wearing his black shoulder rig in this scene. His nickel-plated Colt (EMF) .45 Single Action Army is in the holster. Doc's 1877 Colt Lightning is in his right front pocket of his pants with the butt of the pistol facing Doc's left hand.
8. I know Doc is wearing suspenders with this outfit, but they cannot be seen because of the vest and coat.
9. Doc is wearing his Black square toe (coffin toe) town boots. These are the same boots he wears in the first scene. Doc always wears these boots when he is in town.
So here we have the second outfit Val/Doc wears in the movie. We at Hollywood Western Wardrobe already sell the correct maroon cravat complete with the correct diamond stud tie pin. In the future the vest and pants will be available. The gray town coat can be bought at Historical Emporium.
I hope you enjoyed this little post on Doc's wardrobe and be on the lookout for outfit number three.
John Holliday 12-21-24
PS. If you enlarge the photo below you will be able to see the pinstripes in Doc’s pants
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This is a great outfit and you are soooo close to done but ya, the Han Solo hair is going to need to hide with some banana clips up top.I got my striped trousers for this outfit in so I took some quick pics with everything I have so far (pardon the messy hair and room). Still need to hem them since they come with a whopping 36" inseam:
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AMAZING WORK BROTHER!!!!! I have these same pants saved as I was going to try and just make them, but after seeing them on you I think I might so go with these as they look REALLY GOOD with the outfit and they are a match to what Doc wears.I got my striped trousers for this outfit in so I took some quick pics with everything I have so far (pardon the messy hair and room). Still need to hem them since they come with a whopping 36" inseam:
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Oh I'll be cutting it for wearing the full outfit, I have a few cosplays that call for shorter hair so I do get it cut shorter sometimes. But yeah, I'm not blessed with JohnHolliday's facial hair either so I won't be as accurate there, but meh, it'll be my take on him. I might try a fake mustache if I could find one in a close enough color to my real hair but I've worn one before in high school theatre and they're awfully uncomfortable, so I'm hoping to get by well enough without one.This is a great outfit and you are soooo close to done but ya, the Han Solo hair is going to need to hide with some banana clips up top.
JohnHolliday has one up on all of us with already having the right face shape but you always seem to pull those little details in on the day of the final pics so I am jazzed and waiting.
Thanks! Yeah, they're really nice, maybe a little more grey in them relative to the amount of black (they're definitely grey-with-black-stripes rather than a 50/50 black-and-grey stripe) but definitely close enough I think. I have a little extra room in the waist and was initially wondering if I should've gotten the next size down for a slightly slimmer fit in the legs, but comparing to this photo (only full body one I can find of that outfit) I think the fit on mine is pretty close:AMAZING WORK BROTHER!!!!! I have these same pants saved as I was going to try and just make them, but after seeing them on you I think I might so go with these as they look REALLY GOOD with the outfit and they are a match to what Doc wears.
Speaking of that, I these are the same pants he wears when he meets the Earps in Tombstone. I had this listed on my write up but changed it because I have a photo of the pants being a black and white pinstripe, but in truth they are these pants as I also have a photo of them in the movie in which I have posted below. You will have to enlarge the photo to see the stripes.
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I would say you are right on the money brotherOh I'll be cutting it for wearing the full outfit, I have a few cosplays that call for shorter hair so I do get it cut shorter sometimes. But yeah, I'm not blessed with JohnHolliday's facial hair either so I won't be as accurate there, but meh, it'll be my take on him. I might try a fake mustache if I could find one in a close enough color to my real hair but I've worn one before in high school theatre and they're awfully uncomfortable, so I'm hoping to get by well enough without one.
Thanks! Yeah, they're really nice, maybe a little more grey in them relative to the amount of black (they're definitely grey-with-black-stripes rather than a 50/50 black-and-grey stripe) but definitely close enough I think. I have a little extra room in the waist and was initially wondering if I should've gotten the next size down for a slightly slimmer fit in the legs, but comparing to this photo (only full body one I can find of that outfit) I think the fit on mine is pretty close:
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thank you JohnHolliday great tipHere is a photo of the boots I am talking about that you can buy pretty cheap on eBay
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Glad I could help! Can't wait to see how your version of this shirt turns out.Thank You to Cameron1138 for turning me on to the fabric he used to make the bib for his shirt, as I was able to buy the last two yards the company had. This means we will be able to make a few of these shirts. The fabric Cameron1138 found was better looking and more screen accurate the what I had found.
The fabric cam in yesterday and I have matched up the gray the in the stripe to my fabric swatch to find the matching color. This fabric is now getting ordered so I can finally get this shirt in my collection
Thanks again Cameron1138 you really made me a happy this Christmas
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I laugh each time I find myself in a thrift store looking for passable Doc drinking bits. I am a teetotaller from birth so me looking for drinking kit cracks me up.Dropped this yesterday on my FB page
Val's/Doc's Sixth Outfit form the movie Tombstone
I think it's pretty safe to say that Val stole the show in the movie Tombstone thanks to GREAT writing and his portrayal of Doc Holliday. EVERY scene that Val was in was pretty iconic, but if I had to make a list of the top three outfits Val wore in the movie, I would place this outfit at number three. Remember this is just my list as some of you out there might see things differently than I do.
The outfit that I am referring to in this post is the sixth outfit we see Val/Doc in, and this outfit is the Shootout at the O.K. Corral outfit. Val wears ALL GRAY during the shootout, as I read somewhere in my research that someone involved with making the movie went back and brought up all articles in Tombstone Epitaph that stated what Doc was wearing and carrying in this famous gunfight. Everyone thinks that Val is wearing black as the dark charcoal clothing appears to be black in the movie.
The outfit consist of these items...........................
Doc's Famous Black Cowboy hat
Doc's shirt is the same gray and white stripe shirt he was wearing at the poker table the night before. The only difference now is the white wing tip collar has been removed showing the band collar which is closed with a collar stud. The shirt now has the sleeves rolled down and button closed with a pair of cufflinks.
Doc's suspenders/braces are a Y-Back pair of brown suspenders. The suspenders have a black stitching/design on each side of the straps. The suspenders also have a brown leather dog ear loops that secure the suspenders to the black pant buttons. There are two brass adjusters to adjust the suspenders (one on each side). I have talked to MANY companies that make suspenders on what these suspenders are made of, and all of them said they are made of elastic. My thought was they were made of leather, but no one agreed with me on this, so I guess I am going with elastic ones. Just so we are all clear on the suspenders, this is the first and only time we see the suspenders in the movie. Is Doc wearing these suspenders throughout the movie under his vest in other scenes? I have never found the answer on this, so I guess it is up to you on what you want to use in your setups.
Doc's pants are a dark charcoal wool pant that has a very light gray faded stripe. This gray stripe is VERY HARD to see as I really had to enlarge my photos to pick this up. The pants have two frogmouth front pockets and no back pockets, but there is an adjustable strap on the back of the pants. Pants have black buttons to attach the suspenders and a button up fly.
Doc's boots are the same boots he has been wearing throughout the movie which are his black town boots with the coffin toe.
Doc is wearing his Black Shoulder Rig with his 4 3/4-inch Nickel-plated Colt (actually an EMF) tucked into the holster. Doc is also carrying his 4 1/2-inch Nickel-plated Colt Lighting in his front right pocket with the butt of the pistol facing to Doc's left.
Doc covers this entire wardrobe setup with a dark charcoal wool Ulster/Inverness coat. This coat is very long as it comes down to right above Doc's ankles. There is a very long cape attached to this coat and the cape comes to the end of the coat sleeves. There are five frogmouth closures attached to the cape that have black toggle buttons. There is a black circle embroidered piping around each of the closures (five on each side of the cape). There is also a black edging that runs down the front of each side of the coat and the bottom of the cape. Doc does NOT have his arms in the coat sleeves during this scene as he just has the coat over his shoulders to help him make fast exist of the coat when the action starts.
Doc has several props that go along with this outfit besides his shoulder rig and pistols. Doc also has a tall thin silver/pewter flask that has the hinge that is attach to the flask and flask cap. Doc can be seen drinking from this as he meets the Earps. Doc also carries a black walking stick that has silver ball top. Doc is using this walking stick has he crosses the street to meet the Earps. Doc trades this walking stick to Virgil Earp for his Double Barrel 10-gauge shotgun. This shotgun has two exposed hammers, a stock that has a small, rounded pistol grip incorporated into it. The shotgun appears to have a 20-inch barrel which helps Doc conceal it under his coat as he walks to the shootout. Doc also wears a pair of silver cufflinks that are round and appear to have a dark gray round center. Doc's collar stud looks just like the cufflinks.
So, there you have it, the outfit that Val/Doc wears during this famous scene. Be sure to keep following this page as outfit number seven will be coming soon
John Holliday 1-11-25
PS. Here is a bit of Triva for all you fans out there, on the movie poster for the movie Doc and Virgil are both carrying double barrel shotguns when in reality Virgil should be carrying Doc's Walking stick
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We go to Tombstone every Labor day Weekend and last year they had cups that are pretty dang close. I have several authentic period ones that aren't perfect. One of the harder bits to find really. Actually got married down there last year. She has made all of her dresses bustle and all.I laugh each time I find myself in a thrift store looking for passable Doc drinking bits. I am a teetotaller from birth so me looking for drinking kit cracks me up.