Tomb Raider - Triangle of Light - WIP

[franz bolo]

The bottom is symetrical.

I copied the left side over to the right and it matched up pretty good. Slight variations, but not enough to matter.

This is what is looks like with 2 left sides. (one flipped of course).

Don't use just the one picture for reference. This one below shows a lot more detail than the one thats taken straight on.

I think if a point is brought up and you don't agree, you should state it and we can scrutinize it a little more. I'm not always right so I hope I'm not coming across as a know it all.

All but #3 of my comments I believe are accurate. On the above pic, the line looks like it continues. This could be an optical trick because of the texture background of the piece.

Since it's symetrical, I think all comments refer to both sides.

Why not just work on the left side first, then once it's done, flip it and your finished. Don't even show the right side for now. That way the comments can be more focused.

FB

 

[juno]

I think that the initial pattern was symmetric, and that the sculptor took some liberties when creating it. I don't think the original was machined (just my opinion).

Oh, and the b&w pic I posted is not taken from the priest scene. It's earlier when Lord Croft is explaining the legend.
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[Eaglewood]

Originally posted by juno@Mar 6 2006, 05:32 PM
I think that the initial pattern was symmetric, and that the sculptor took some liberties when creating it.  I don't think the original was machined (just my opinion).

Oh, and the b&w pic I posted is not taken from the priest scene.  It's earlier when Lord Croft is explaining the legend.
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Just my 2 cents here but I think that if it is symmetrical on both sides (left and right-front and back)--that is what we are looking for.

Appliedmetal

 

[juno]

Franz Bolo, you're my new hero

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[Eaglewood]

Originally posted by juno@Mar 6 2006, 10:18 PM
Franz Bolo, you're my new hero

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Tif,
I talked with Franz and he told me how he helped--that is awesome. Hope it made your job easier.

Looking good--I sent you a PM--but I guess I sent it to Franz instead-- :confused :confused

Guess Id better watch where I click with this darned mouse--

Anyhow, Cant wait to get the pic so we can get going...
Clay

 

[franz bolo]

Originally posted by juno@Mar 6 2006, 08:18 PM
Franz Bolo, you're my new hero

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[Prop Runner]

Sorry, guys, but I keep seeing what to me are very obvious interpretive mistakes carried on to each new version:

If I had the time and knew how do create line art in Photoshop, I'd take a crack at it, but since I don't on both counts, I'd appreciate your feedback to my suggestions, especially if you're going to solicit my opinions and others'...

- Gabe

 

[juno]

Sorry Gabe, I'm not intentionally ignoring anyone's suggestions. I redrew all the knotwork in that second one using an Illustrator technique Franz suggested that makes it both more accurate and easier on me. I know that there's no border, I just accidentally left it off (again). Like history, I just must be condemned to repeat myself.

I've made your suggested adjustments, I completely see what you're talking about on the border's and the knots. I know both Clay and Kevin had changes -- however I've redone much of it. I'll re-look over the suggested changes tomorrow and attempt to implement. If you see anything else that's off on this one, let me know. I really don't mind -- as long as you guys don't mind telling me.

 

[Prop Runner]

My apologies if I'm not synchronized with your pace or am commenting on obsolete versions.

Here's my latest based on yours, showing the steps I took:

Hope this helps, and thanks for being a good sport.

- Gabe

 

[juno]

I agree with the two right-hand "curls," but I'm not seeing the border overlap of the circles:

I figure if I can't see it in the "relief" version it's not there -- but I could be totally missing something. I used the image on the left as the "knot-tracer."

However -- I do realize now that they need to "mate" (hehehe) with the round border.

 

[Prop Runner]

You got me on the overlap - it really does look like they extend over the ring in the photo I used as my reference.

Can you clean up the rest of the detail the way you just did on this corner? Your last 2 pics make it much easier to see what's on top and what's recessed.

- Gabe

 

[juno]

Does this help? No worky on it tonight because I'm doing the paying stuff :cry

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[Eaglewood]

D@*N this is coming along GREAT... Yo guys and girls are awesome. I am getting sooo excited to get started on this one having just had a success with the knucks. We are starting production on those this week.

 

[Prop Runner]

Originally posted by juno@Mar 7 2006, 05:31 PM
Does this help?  No worky on it tonight because I'm doing the paying stuff  :cry

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Uh... YEAH, it helps.

Now for the first time I notice that the recessed details are actually concentric rings radiating from the center of the triangle.

Can't you use this as a template and trace over it, instead of recreating the design from scratch?

Tim - your thoughts?

- Gabe

 

[juno]

I've been using the priest image for tracing -- I just cleaned this one up tonight . . . I'll look at it

 

[Eaglewood]

Originally posted by juno@Mar 7 2006, 10:56 PM
I've been using the priest image for tracing -- I just cleaned this one up tonight . . . I'll look at it

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You know Tif,
If you could get this cleaned up a bit more, we may be able to throw it in the program and see how it comes out--Its worth a shot.

Clay

 

[RelicMaker]

I looked at the image and helped clean it up a little bit. I hope I'm not stepping on your toes Juno by doing this. Just wanting to help. I hope this helps out in any way.

 

[RelicMaker]

I looked at the image and helped clean it up a little bit. Juno,I hope I'm not stepping on your toes by doing this. Just wanting to help. I hope this helps out in any way.

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[juno]

RelicMaker -- no problem at all.. From your cleaned up image, I think it's clear that the sculptor wasn't exact in their copying the knotworks on each side.

Clay -- Are you referring to these jpegs? Those would work?

Gabe -- I totally see the concentric circles now, which brings me to another question for

Clay -- As I see it, this cast is more than three levels (white, black, grey). You have the lowest level, the concentric circles, the radial lines near the eye, the knotwork and the first band, and the other bands and eye.

 

[juno]

Lots of pics -- beware

With concentric circles underneath:

As an overlay: