Baruopa
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Watched THX 1138 for the first time recently and was surprised at the lack of information about it out there. Suppose I've been spoiled by Star Wars. I thought I'd start a thread for this, as I've been driving myself crazy trying to figure out the brand of helmet the police wear. If anyone can help out I'd greatly appreciate it.
Firstly, we know that;
● THX 1138 was filmed in late 1969 in San Francisco
● The masks were formed in two pieces, front and back (you can see the seam in the movie, there's a brief clip of an android with no helmet). They were done in a clear plastic, the interior of which was layed with silver leaf (or so I've read).
I've searched for auctions or collections but unfortunately it doesn't look like anything from THX has ever been put up, or if it has, I couldn't find it. I'm assuming the mask was a custom sculpt that was vacuum formed. I don't have any evidence for that, other than it seems the simplest process and it's the same method the stormtroopers would be constructed in in Star Wars. Unless someone comes out with a production cast or buck, we can kiss lineage goodbye. I don't think it'd be too difficult to model the mask though, as far as fan sculpts go, but reference photos aren't very plentiful, and the chrome effect makes it hard to discern a definitive form.
The helmet has been troubling me.
I'm disregarding the paint in my effort to ID it, as the decals are clearly custom, so I see no reason why the paint couldn't be as well. What couldn't change is the form of it. Ive been combing through lots of 1960s motorcycle and police helmets, and the details that appear unique/distinguishing on the THX helmets are the following:
● The brim/visor is a separate piece. There's a visible bead on the edge of it that makes it look, to me at least, like leather. It is not a molded part of the helmet.
● There is a band that runs across the top of the visor with two buttons, one at either end of the band. Presumably this is how the visor attaches to the helmet.
● There are rivets on the side of the helmet (presumably for attaching the liner). From the side you can see three of them, with the first one very close to the brim, sitting just above the point where the helmet slopes down.
● There is an over-ear liner that also appears to have a beaded edge, suggesting its leather. It has a metal buckle on one side and a button clasp on the other, but in photos it seems inconsistent which side they're on. The over-ear sections cover completely and wrap around the back of the head, and appear featureless.
The most similar helmet I've found so far is the Bell Toptex. It's the only helmet I've been able to find that has the rivets in the same position, but it seems inconsistent across different helmets.
Here you can see the closest I've found. It has the separate visor and the band with two buttons on either end (the design on them even seems to be similar to those on the THX helmets), as well as the three rivets on the side, the first two close together and riding against the slope towards the visor.
Unfortunately there are also several "Bell Toptex" helmets that do not meet these criteria. There are several that have the visor as a molded part of the helmet. And I've only been able to find one with the over-ear liner, but it's some radio operation equipment, and doesn't match the featureless THX piece.
There are other similar helmets, but so far the Bell Toptex is the only one I've found where the rivets match. Super Seer and Buco have been crossed off my list.
I think it's also worth mentioning that Bell was based out of Long Beach, California, and seems to have supplied the helmets to both the Los Angeles and San Francisco PDs. If Lucas needed police helmets, Bell Toptex certainly seem to have been familiar and available to him. Unfortunately I just can't seem to find enough information about them to identify it conclusively. I suppose it's possible the liner was added to it by production, perhaps to cover the seam between the two parts of the mask? But surely a police/motorcycle helmet would come with a chinstrap.
I haven't yet started looking into the uniform, but they appear to be a kind of leather jumpsuit, I'd assume some kind of racing suit, but I'll see if I can find anything there.
I'd love to be able to identify some of the parts from this movie. It's criminal how overlooked and underrated George Lucas' first feature film is. If anyone could join in or point me in the right direction it'd be much appreciated. Thanks!
Firstly, we know that;
● THX 1138 was filmed in late 1969 in San Francisco
● The masks were formed in two pieces, front and back (you can see the seam in the movie, there's a brief clip of an android with no helmet). They were done in a clear plastic, the interior of which was layed with silver leaf (or so I've read).
I've searched for auctions or collections but unfortunately it doesn't look like anything from THX has ever been put up, or if it has, I couldn't find it. I'm assuming the mask was a custom sculpt that was vacuum formed. I don't have any evidence for that, other than it seems the simplest process and it's the same method the stormtroopers would be constructed in in Star Wars. Unless someone comes out with a production cast or buck, we can kiss lineage goodbye. I don't think it'd be too difficult to model the mask though, as far as fan sculpts go, but reference photos aren't very plentiful, and the chrome effect makes it hard to discern a definitive form.
The helmet has been troubling me.
I'm disregarding the paint in my effort to ID it, as the decals are clearly custom, so I see no reason why the paint couldn't be as well. What couldn't change is the form of it. Ive been combing through lots of 1960s motorcycle and police helmets, and the details that appear unique/distinguishing on the THX helmets are the following:
● The brim/visor is a separate piece. There's a visible bead on the edge of it that makes it look, to me at least, like leather. It is not a molded part of the helmet.
● There is a band that runs across the top of the visor with two buttons, one at either end of the band. Presumably this is how the visor attaches to the helmet.
● There are rivets on the side of the helmet (presumably for attaching the liner). From the side you can see three of them, with the first one very close to the brim, sitting just above the point where the helmet slopes down.
● There is an over-ear liner that also appears to have a beaded edge, suggesting its leather. It has a metal buckle on one side and a button clasp on the other, but in photos it seems inconsistent which side they're on. The over-ear sections cover completely and wrap around the back of the head, and appear featureless.
The most similar helmet I've found so far is the Bell Toptex. It's the only helmet I've been able to find that has the rivets in the same position, but it seems inconsistent across different helmets.
Here you can see the closest I've found. It has the separate visor and the band with two buttons on either end (the design on them even seems to be similar to those on the THX helmets), as well as the three rivets on the side, the first two close together and riding against the slope towards the visor.
Unfortunately there are also several "Bell Toptex" helmets that do not meet these criteria. There are several that have the visor as a molded part of the helmet. And I've only been able to find one with the over-ear liner, but it's some radio operation equipment, and doesn't match the featureless THX piece.
There are other similar helmets, but so far the Bell Toptex is the only one I've found where the rivets match. Super Seer and Buco have been crossed off my list.
I think it's also worth mentioning that Bell was based out of Long Beach, California, and seems to have supplied the helmets to both the Los Angeles and San Francisco PDs. If Lucas needed police helmets, Bell Toptex certainly seem to have been familiar and available to him. Unfortunately I just can't seem to find enough information about them to identify it conclusively. I suppose it's possible the liner was added to it by production, perhaps to cover the seam between the two parts of the mask? But surely a police/motorcycle helmet would come with a chinstrap.
I haven't yet started looking into the uniform, but they appear to be a kind of leather jumpsuit, I'd assume some kind of racing suit, but I'll see if I can find anything there.
I'd love to be able to identify some of the parts from this movie. It's criminal how overlooked and underrated George Lucas' first feature film is. If anyone could join in or point me in the right direction it'd be much appreciated. Thanks!
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