superDrool
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Well said. :thumbsup
Thor Movie Reviews
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Well said. :thumbsup
ShadowX81
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And where was this ever stated in the movie?
firesprite
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No one ever holds up a sign beside Loki that says 'god of lies', but even his friends regard him as a trickster and as the movie goes on, they trust him less and less because of his talent for lying. It's never explicitely spelled out.... which is probably why people are confused by him.
dualedge
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Exactly... until this point, Loki has been messing around and probably manipulating and lying about lesser events. This is the event that defines him - trying to manipulate matters to usurp Thor's first claim to the throne of Asgard. This is where Loki goes 100% dark-side in my opinion. He may have had complex motivations prior and may have truly cared for Thor and Odin but this is the point where he truly betrays them all.
I don't really get the Laufy/Snow-miser thing but whatever... to each his own.
firesprite
Master Member
Even in the beginning, if you look at their body language and general demeanor, they don't particularly trust Loki. Volstagg, in particular, has an air of tolerating Loki because he's Thor's brother rather than actually liking him.
It may be a matter of personal preference, but I'm okay with them not taking a bat and smacking me upside the head with "OKAY, HE'S EVIL NOW!" Loki never views himself as 'evil', per se... but then again, I'm coming at this movie with at least a cursory background in the mythology. My husband, who has long been a fan of the Norse pantheon, absolutely loves the portrayal of Loki in this film.
Qui-Gonzalez
Master Member
I thought Laufy was Loki's mother. I don't think we ever saw female Frost Giants though.
cayman shen
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They don't like to spend time with their men if they can avoid it...the guys always complain that they are frigid.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!
Phew.
I kill myself.
Larry Young
Master Member
Damn, man; crack a book. Loki is the god of mischief.
firesprite
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Larry Young
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I love you, too!
superDrool
Sr Member
Yeah, they looked ridiculous, as well as grouped together they added some comedy. Volstagg eating everything because he was upset, got me a chuckle.
lol:lol Go back and watch The Mask with Jim Carrey - the Mask belonged to Loki.
Even in one of the first conversations between Thor and Loki, Loki is kinda pushing Thor to disobey Odin. I can't remember the exact conversation but Loki feeds an idea to Thor, then when Thor jumps on it, Loki says "No. You can't do that." but it's done in a way you know that's what Loki wanted him to do.
I had no problem with Loki - I thought the actor did a perfect job - but someone pointed out that he looked a little like Steve from Blues Clues and now all I can think about is Loki taking out his Handy Dandy Notebook to figure out a way to get rid of Thor.
rocketeer25
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I saw it last night, and I'd give the Asgard parts a 8 out of 10. The scenes set on Earth... I'd say was a poor 4 out of 10.
I understand the need for "grounding" Thor, and setting him up for the Avengers movie, but the transition between the two locations was not handled very well. The whole movie could have been based in Asgard for all I cared.
I also think his offer to partner with SHIELD was too contrived. These people had stolen his girlfriend's life work, and had locked him up after a huge battle. No way is he ready to make friends unsolicited that way.
I loved the costumes and props. I loved the characters of Odin and Loki. Thor's other companions were mostly red-shirts.
In comparing this movie to other Hero movies like Batman, Spiderman, and Ironman, I think we're missing a "wow" moment. In all the other movies, we're treated to the character's origin. We see them pre-"hero", and we get a big reveal scene with them in full costume. With Thor, we don't get the origin (other than some backstory) or a big reveal scene. I think we're conditioned for it, and when we don't get it, there is a bit of a letdown.
I understand the need for "grounding" Thor, and setting him up for the Avengers movie, but the transition between the two locations was not handled very well. The whole movie could have been based in Asgard for all I cared.
I also think his offer to partner with SHIELD was too contrived. These people had stolen his girlfriend's life work, and had locked him up after a huge battle. No way is he ready to make friends unsolicited that way.
I loved the costumes and props. I loved the characters of Odin and Loki. Thor's other companions were mostly red-shirts.
In comparing this movie to other Hero movies like Batman, Spiderman, and Ironman, I think we're missing a "wow" moment. In all the other movies, we're treated to the character's origin. We see them pre-"hero", and we get a big reveal scene with them in full costume. With Thor, we don't get the origin (other than some backstory) or a big reveal scene. I think we're conditioned for it, and when we don't get it, there is a bit of a letdown.
Paul Andrew
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I don't think there was ever a point for the character where he wasn't a badass. Granted, it might be academically interesting to do a Thor movie in a more traditional sense of the norse lore, but as far as comic Thor goes the scene at the end where he proves himself worthy is about as close to the moment you're looking for as the character has ever had (so far as I know anyway). He wasn't bitten by a radioactive spider, his parents weren't murdered before his eyes, he has always been who he is.
cayman shen
Master Member
I'm GLAD there wasn't an origin story. I'm sooooooo sick of getting every detail of a character's backstory, as if a superhero movie was a psych profile. Sometimes it's ok to start in medias res.
The wow moment was when he steps up to the plate on earth (not sure if we're doing spoilers)
The wow moment was when he steps up to the plate on earth (not sure if we're doing spoilers)
superDrool
Sr Member
I think Jet let the cat out of the bag a couple of days ago, so it's pointless to hide them anymore.
Loki was perfect. I'm not sure why anyone would try to connect the Loki from the Mask, as it was a great Jim Carrey vehicle and showed off the prowess of CGI back then. But Loki in the Marvel Universe was much more underhanded and played the game his way. For the last 10 or so years he's been a major player in the Marvel Universe, screwing over Earth and it's hero's and humans for everything they're worth.
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