CB2001
Master Member
And a four-door Chevy Impala. XDThey could always give him a cigar and a smiley face button.
Things you're tired of seeing in movies
- Thread starter Joosh
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One of things that turned me off to this show was the fact that a lot of the humans, if not most of them, were worse than any zombies. Also, as others have noted, it seemed like each season was a repeat of what had gone on before. This might have been a good, or even great, show at one time but I think it is long past it's use by date.
p51
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Zombie fiction is just silly. With very few exceptions, here's how all zombie fiction goes:
- Zombies arrive and hardly anyone questions why or how
- Most people get eaten
- Society collapses
- People prey on each other
- Zombies win and will always be around
I stopped watching Walking Dead when Negan's army of mind readers were waiting at EVERY road the good guys went down, and they killed the Asian guy with a bat. I was out from that moment.
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No idea, never read them. I do know that the show writers did it because they said "The villain is always killed in movies, so let's see what happens if he lives." There's a good reason the villain dies people.
I was curious and looked up the last few issues of the comic (just the basic story). Rick get killed, and then the final comic jumps 25 years ahead, Carl, Negan and a few others are still alive.
Kinda weird the guy did it that way.
Cephus
Master Member
You do get some exceptions, like 1985's Day of the Dead, where they wind up on an island at the end, away from the zombie plague. That's really what I hate so much about zombies, there's only a tiny window at the very beginning where humanity has a chance and so many modern filmmakers really hate humanity and just want everyone to die.
Zombies will always win unless you wipe them out at the very beginning. If the zombies bite a human, or even scratch them sometimes, then that human becomes a zombie and starts playing for the other side. Zombies are hard to kill and if you kill them, they don't wake up and come back to the humans. The only way for humans to increase their numbers is through regular breeding, which takes many years, as opposed to the zombies who can make a new zombie in a few minutes or days (depending on the setup). If humans let the zombies get the upper hand, we're hosed.
Personally, I have no interest in watching any movie where the bad guys win. If the humans have no chance, I've got no interest.
Since we're on zombies there's 28 Days Later. It did a lot of things well. I liked the establishing sequences in the beginning of the film and the story was good, blah, blah, blah.
But I couldn't get past a particular piece of stupidity. Knowing that zombie fluids were HIGHLY transmissible, why were even the experienced people without loads of body coverage? In that world I would have, at minimum, a full on face shield covering nose and mouth with welding goggles and bite shielding on my hands and forearms. Every orifice would be locked down. But the 20-something fighters have uncovered faces and short-sleeves or less? Why are they surprised when some zed mounts them and drools gunk all over their face?
You'd think that getting covered in biohazardous fluids would teach this man to put on a shirt.
I want to see a zombie movie where someone is smart enough to get their hands on a dog bite-suit or, better yet, sharkproof chainmail. What can a zombie do to someone in these?
But I couldn't get past a particular piece of stupidity. Knowing that zombie fluids were HIGHLY transmissible, why were even the experienced people without loads of body coverage? In that world I would have, at minimum, a full on face shield covering nose and mouth with welding goggles and bite shielding on my hands and forearms. Every orifice would be locked down. But the 20-something fighters have uncovered faces and short-sleeves or less? Why are they surprised when some zed mounts them and drools gunk all over their face?
You'd think that getting covered in biohazardous fluids would teach this man to put on a shirt.
I want to see a zombie movie where someone is smart enough to get their hands on a dog bite-suit or, better yet, sharkproof chainmail. What can a zombie do to someone in these?
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The world's easiest way to defeat a zombie: collect as many spools of thin cable/ wire. heavy fishing line as you can, and tie them across every doorway, tree and whatnot you can at shin level.
I have yet to see a zombie that could lift their feet high enough to get over that. Then it's just a matter of popping them off.
With that silly bit off my chest, the serious way to defeat them:
1) As soon as zombies are spotted, get everyone to places with very little glass, solid doors and layered entryways (think lobbies of schools and the like) that aren't immediately compromised as soon as one set of doors is breached.
2) Layer defenses such as aforementioned tripwires, pitfalls and the like (time permitting). Traps that smash anatomical features such as limbs will greatly inhibit mobility.
3) While this is going on, secure food supplies for intermediate bunkering.
4) Liquid nitrogen would be the method of choice for immobilization and incarceration of zombiefied individuals, as any movement will be retarded and/ or cause severe anatomical damage.
5) Clear all fauna away from areas suspected to be heavily infested; do not let animals become prey for zombies.
6) Once an area is cleared, establish a perimeter and seal it off with traps and (if available) fencing. As areas are cleared and converge, join these areas together and employ the contained populace as "spotters"/ watchmen for incoming.
7) Once larger areas and regions are cleared and certified free of zombies, establish "moats" of punji sticks, pitfalls and the like to ensure zombies cannot easily cross them and batter the fences.
8) Employ scientists to develop biologics/ bacteria on the zombies at an accelerated rate, taking care to use cryogenics to immobilize and proper HAZMAT equipment to handle disposal of emaciated zombie remains.
9) Patrol beaches to ensure no zombies entered large bodies of water that can preserve and hide them indefinitely.
10) Once major areas have been reclaimed, collect remains of zombies and place aboard a cryogenic-equipped rocket that is targeted for the sun.
Admittedly, much of this would have to be prepped ahead of time, and folks would have to cooperate. But it's a better plan than most I think (albeit the many holes it has).
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Right! When I would watch Walking Dead with my dad he would always say "Why don't they make forearm armor?! You could just use your forearm for them to bite on and then stab them or shoot them in the head point blank!" Generally, at least in the earlier seasons, they did a lot of stuff right that normal people would do. This is not one of them. I think every once in a while they would use some armor or something, but not consistently enough for it to make sense.
Franchises that use different actors for the same character and use the same actor for different characters in different movies. I've been on a James Bond kick recently and just watched the first 8 movies, from Dr No thru Live and Let Die, and there is a character named Felix Leiter that was played by a different actor in each of the 5 movies he was in. At the same time, they had actors who played multiple characters in those movies, sometimes one movie after the other. I realize that sometimes an actor doesn't want to return but if they had a pool of actors that they kept on using they could have had the same one play the same character.
Rant over for now.
Rant over for now.
Riceball
Master Member
I've always thought the same thing myself. One of the first things that I would do when I found a nice place to call home, or even if I had a spare moment on the road would be to craft myself some form of armor for my arms. Making some form of DIY bracer is the easiest thing in the world, get an old t-shirt or 2, and some duct tape and you got yourself some protection on your arms that should be more than good enough against human teeth which are hardly the sharpest things in the world and humans don't exactly have the strongest bite force either. Over time, you can add to/improve it with more or better materials yet the closest we saw to that in TWD was some riot armor that didn't even cover the most vulnerable parts of the body, most vulnerable to zombies at least, it left the arms and legs completely exposed while protecting the parts of the body that people seldomly get bit on which is the chest and head.
p51
Sr Member
And if you have a long-running sci-fi series, you'll just make up a way to bring a 'fan favorite' bad guy even after they've been killed off.
The Master and Davros from Doctor Who come to mind. You can't kill either of those because you'll just have another writer undo what you've written. Don't forget that Davros was killed by the Daleks in the Tom Baker era where he was first introduced in my favorite DW story, "Genisis of the Daleks," to explain how the Daleks got started.
And as for The Master, a character that will live forever, how can you take that seriously or ever consider him 'defeated'?
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Master Boda
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Dude,call me lazy but I live in a cold state. I have joked about waiting until winter when we hit 0 degree,hop on the snowmobile with a baseball bat and start swinging.Scan the area in spring and one should have a peaceful summer.
Timothy Love
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When a character goes to a location and the door is cracked and they just walk in. They walk in, and they don't say anything, but proceed to walk around the house. That might work in some countries, but in the U.S. there's a good chance you'll get shot! You would normally yell "Hello? Anyone home?" and keep doing that while you do your check. It's bad writing.
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