Riceball
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Except for the remakes that are actually better or considered better that the original, movies like The Fly, True Lies, Invasion of the Body Snatchers, and a whole host of other remakes.
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Things you're tired of seeing in movies
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Except for the remakes that are actually better or considered better that the original, movies like The Fly, True Lies, Invasion of the Body Snatchers, and a whole host of other remakes.
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Some remakes are better... they are few and far between thou... most of them however truly suck! Take a look at the syfy remake of Dune for example. Sure the remake was more true to the books, but lacked any real soul and frankly was boring!
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I'm truly tired of seeing CGI spaceships. Nothing beats the nuances of an actual physical model
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I'm truly tired of seeing CGI spaceships. Nothing beats the nuances of an actual physical model
Zombie_61
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The same is true of The Maltese Falcon (1941) Previously there was The Maltese Falcon from 1931 starring Richard Cortez and Bebe Daniels, and Satan Met A Lady from 1936 starring Warren William and Bette Davis which was based on Dashiell Hammett's novel but re-written as a light comedy.
Riceball
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Apparently of a French movie with a different title but with the same exact premise.
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The amount of force that magazine spring would dish out when fully compressed has got to be equal to any bullet that gun fires.
CharlotteC0129
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I had all kinds of thoughts about this--and then other people said most of them better.
I'm all for *good* remakes--and I'll admit we have to go through many, many bad ones to find them. But isn't that just Sturgeon's law, with generalizations like this one? "Ninety percent of everything is crap"?
So, I agree about bad remakes, but I'm excited for the New Ghostbusters. If Bill Murray's finally behind it, maybe it has something going for it, since he has crapped on another film in that franchise for over a decade.
I'm all for *good* remakes--and I'll admit we have to go through many, many bad ones to find them. But isn't that just Sturgeon's law, with generalizations like this one? "Ninety percent of everything is crap"?
So, I agree about bad remakes, but I'm excited for the New Ghostbusters. If Bill Murray's finally behind it, maybe it has something going for it, since he has crapped on another film in that franchise for over a decade.
CharlotteC0129
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Okay... Because it's Ghostbusters (which rocked, so any remake has an incredibly high bar)? Or because it's women? It can work. I don't know if it will, because Ghostbusters was so good. But I'm much more concerned about a bad remake than a chick remake. We have too many examples of gender recasting that worked incredibly well... which could be its own thread, huh?!
If you knew how many American movies are actually remake of French ones, you would be surprised xD
As a French person I know, but they don't always credit the original movie...
And most are pretty bad (just off the top of my head):
Three Men and a Baby - I hated both versions
Dangerous Liasons - wasn't bad actually
Point of No Return - La Femme Nikita - even Bridgette Fonda knew the remake was garbage. Hollywood took out everything I liked about the original ... as if they didn't even get what made it a classic.
Breathless (*groan*)
Birdcage (which I actually hated) - La Cage Aux Folles just seemed fresher
Down and Out in Beverly Hills (I actually did like this film as I did the original Renoir's Boudu Saved From Drowning. But the original was more thematically cohesive.)
Taxi - the American version sucked, sucked, sucked
Sorcerer (Wages of Fear) - I love Wages of Fear so much I really have no desire to see if Sorceror is any good.
But it's not entirely one-sided. American film noir is still influential in French cinema.
That reassures me. And yup, they are often bad. I kinda liked the Birdcage. I like Robin Williams, so maybe that's why...
The one they really butchered is Le dîner de cons (remake is Dinner for Schmucks). And more recently, LOL... I always wondered why they wouldn't dub the French movies, or just add subtitles and show them in American Cinemas? The movies being good at the first place.... I mean, they wouldn't need extra dollars in remaking them...
Riceball
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That reassures me. And yup, they are often bad. I kinda liked the Birdcage. I like Robin Williams, so maybe that's why...
The one they really butchered is Le dîner de cons (remake is Dinner for Schmucks). And more recently, LOL... I always wondered why they wouldn't dub the French movies, or just add subtitles and show them in American Cinemas? The movies being good at the first place.... I mean, they wouldn't need extra dollars in remaking them...
Simple, because your average American is a lazy idiot who doesn't want to "read" at a movie and they can't handle the idea that some other countries might also produce good movies. For your average American Hollywood is the end all, be all of the movie world and if it doesn't come out of the US it can't possibly be a good movie.
I think dubbing isn't very good. I always watch films with the subtitles because I still can appreciate the intonation (I waited many years for Fellini's Amarcord to be released with subtitles - I watched it subtitled in the early 80's in a theater but only the dubbed versions were on VHS... thank goodness for Criterion who got the subtitled version out).That reassures me. And yup, they are often bad. I kinda liked the Birdcage. I like Robin Williams, so maybe that's why...
The one they really butchered is Le dîner de cons (remake is Dinner for Schmucks). And more recently, LOL... I always wondered why they wouldn't dub the French movies, or just add subtitles and show them in American Cinemas? The movies being good at the first place.... I mean, they wouldn't need extra dollars in remaking them...
Dubbing almost always sounds comical.
I guess I would agree with this. Dubbing is not always very good. But in France, every American movies are dubbed. It doesn't seem to bother most of the French viewers. I rather like them in English because I am used to watch them this way. Always found it better. However animations movies have always been really good in French. Especially Pixar ones. They seem to use French language at its best when they translate a Pixar movie which is good. As they don't have to follow the way the lips are moving sometimes as it's a bit less obvious with animation.
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Nice!
I'm willing to bet your French voice actors are much better than ours in the US. Many US voice actors seem to overplay a character.
One extreme example was a dubbing of the Japanese film Galaxy Express 999. When Captain Harlock (renamed "Captain Warlock") enters the voice actor did a John Wayne impersonation.
Often good voice acting comes from good actors. I thought Bradley Cooper was terrific as Rocket Raccoon in Guardians of the Galaxy,
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