Things you're tired of seeing in movies

While this is perpetuated in movies and TV, I'm even more tired of it being believed in real life.

Drinking brandy or any alcohol when you're cold DOES NOT warm you up. It creates a warm feeling, but it actually has the opposite effect on your body. If your coldness isn't health-threatening, it'll do for making you feel better, but if it is, don't do it.
 
While this is perpetuated in movies and TV, I'm even more tired of it being believed in real life.

Drinking brandy or any alcohol when you're cold DOES NOT warm you up. It creates a warm feeling, but it actually has the opposite effect on your body. If your coldness isn't health-threatening, it'll do for making you feel better, but if it is, don't do it.

Healthcare was just cooler back in the day.

"He got a sword though the guts? Quick, give him a shot of whiskey!"
 
While this is perpetuated in movies and TV, I'm even more tired of it being believed in real life.

Drinking brandy or any alcohol when you're cold DOES NOT warm you up. It creates a warm feeling, but it actually has the opposite effect on your body. If your coldness isn't health-threatening, it'll do for making you feel better, but if it is, don't do it.

Nuts to that. I'm tired of the perpetuated myth that drinking will put hair on one's chest.

Though I've been really thinking about both, and cannot recall a single modern movie or series that's done either. Not that I can't be wrong.
 
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I'm tired of seeing shows where cops, lawyers, secret agents, doctors, whoever at the office 'after hours' and they reach in their desk and bust out a bottle of whiskey or wine or whatever and just start drinking. Just tired of the overall casual alcoholism portrayed in t.v. shows and movies.
 
How quickly people forget that these things began with official sources.

Dr.s used to identify alcohol as a stimulant and prescribe smoking and drinking. Beer was prescribed by physicians to pregnant women!

Militaries included cigarettes in rations and made smoking a privilege.

This type of thing is even found in old films which is why it is there today.
 
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Or maybe they did that because Seagal is a douchebag.

Would he have voluntarily signed up to do the movie and die like that? No way. They must have sprung it on him during shooting.
"OK Steven, but see this is just an intro scene. You do die, yes, but wait. See, then you battle Death AND YOU WIN!!! So, you then come back later in the film. OK, so, you'll do the death scene?"
 
I'm tired of seeing shows where cops, lawyers, secret agents, doctors, whoever at the office 'after hours' and they reach in their desk and bust out a bottle of whiskey or wine or whatever and just start drinking. Just tired of the overall casual alcoholism portrayed in t.v. shows and movies.
^ This. If we were all conditioned to accept the things we see in movies and on television at face value, it would be easy in real life to believe every human on the planet is an alcoholic simply because EVERY movie/TV character drinks so much. Me, I'm 63 years old and honestly can't remember the last time I had an "adult" beverage; has to have been at least 20 years ago. Mind you, I'm not a "tee totaler", but I rarely have a craving for a drink that contains alcohol.
 
Yeah my dad would occasionally have a beer or two during holidays, Super Bowl, or maybe when relatives were visiting. So infrequently that when my nephew was around 7 he saw my dad buy beer and asked if he was going to be drunk. :lol: I'm 47 and I can count on both hands the drinks I've had. I just don't see a need for it myself, but don't have a problem with it.
 
I come from a long line of alcoholics so was teetotaller from birth. My agreement with God was no drinking and I don't deal with the downside of drinking. I haven't missed a thing. And I am overly loud and have a tendency towards acts of boredom so any reduction in my non existent inhibitions would have been catastrophic. Not saying you can't drink, just saying I can't. The constant push of alcohol in movies always bored me but I never could figure out how drinking in movies always foreshadowed irreversible negative consequences but yet the idea received by the audience was "oh what fun now".
 
^ This. If we were all conditioned to accept the things we see in movies and on television at face value, it would be easy in real life to believe every human on the planet is an alcoholic simply because EVERY movie/TV character drinks so much. Me, I'm 63 years old and honestly can't remember the last time I had an "adult" beverage; has to have been at least 20 years ago. Mind you, I'm not a "tee totaler", but I rarely have a craving for a drink that contains alcohol.
Same here. I just don't like the taste of alcohol. The last time I had a drink was at a work conference back in 2004 or so because there literally wasn't another option. I'm not against alcohol, I just have zero interest in it.
 
Same here. I just don't like the taste of alcohol. The last time I had a drink was at a work conference back in 2004 or so because there literally wasn't another option. I'm not against alcohol, I just have zero interest in it.
I have the 10 percent (can't remember the stat exactly) tastebuds. The ones that trigger the bitter poison alert on ALL variants of nightshade. I don't eat melon of any kind, can't tolerate jalapenos (love pepper jelly), will vomit uncontrolled on fresh tomato (love processed tomato sauce etc.). I can find cilantro in any meal, no matter how processed.

My brother asked me to taste Budweiser when I was 4. Instant vomit. I can't say it is horrible because I know my tastes are not the standard. I hate most of what the world loves. But I am glad I never got into hard drinks because they smell like candy to me. All of the really common drinks, even those low in sugars and added flavors, smell like dessert. Had rum filled chocolate once, didn't know what was in it, best candy ever. I think I missed having a serious habit by thiiiiiis much.
 
"OK Steven, but see this is just an intro scene. You do die, yes, but wait. See, then you battle Death AND YOU WIN!!! So, you then come back later in the film. OK, so, you'll do the death scene?"

Even in what, ‘96, ‘97 when this came out me and my friends were over Segal and made jokes that if it wasn’t a Kurt Russell film, we’d get cuts to him fighting off sea life with aikido and getting rescued in middle of the ocean by the end.
 
I always chuckle because, I have what amounts to an intellectual interest in alcohol. I have a whole art deco bar cabinet set up with vintage cocktail recipe books and rarely actually drink. But I did invent a cocktail once. I do love a dirty martini with a steak when we go out, however.
 
I can offer a few thoughts here...

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  1. First off, Luke says "That's armor's too strong for blasters!". Nothing about shields. But armor is by definition not the actual body of the walker, but something layered on top. And therefore not guaranteed to be 100% coverage.
  2. The neck area does not appear to be armored to me. Or at least not intended to be so in 1980.
  3. Snowspeeders don't have blaster turrets, which means they only shoot in the direction of flight. So their blasters don't seem to be quite as accurate "on the fly" as you'd want them to be. It will be very hard to hit a neck in flight.
  4. Sure, Luke could do it, as he hit the Death Star exhaust port, but by the time he figured out the walkers' armor was too strong for blasters, he had a malfunction at fire control (who knows what all that affects).
  5. The walker fell down in a position that appears the neck shouldn't be able to functionally angle upward that high. Take a close look at the neck break in the first screencap above. That neck is "snapped." It stands to reason it's now more vulnerable at that point.
  6. It's possible a delicate system or volatile fluid was exposed.
  7. The crash could have damaged some other areas, and the blast from the snowspeeder was a "lucky shot".
  8. The novelization of the film suggests that there was an internal explosion and the walker blew up on its own.
  9. A snowspeeder that is finally able to fly close and head-on to the walker (thanks to lack of incoming enemy fire) is going to be able to line up its shot more easily. Even then, it took two speeders at point blank range, as the first one missed.
Armor would cover everywhere it can, it wouldn't be just in some spots and not in others. This is because armor isn't something that gets slapped onto the skin of a vehicle like you would if you were armoring something that wasn't armored from the start. On purpose-built armored vehicles like a tank, IFV, or warship, the armor is the skin of the vehicle and bolted or welded onto a frame or, in the case of modern AFVs, they're welded to each other with no underlying frame.

What you will see, however, is varying degrees of thickness in armor. Take a tank, the armor on the front is always the thickest, with the armor on the top, back, and bottom being the thinnest and the side armor being somewhere in between. Likewise, battleships of old had varying thicknesses of armor plating with the area around the hull at the waterline typically being some of the heaviest armor along with the faces of the turrets housing the main guns. But there wouldn't be any areas that aren't armored, with only thin sheet metal hull plating like on a car.
 
Armor would cover everywhere it can, it wouldn't be just in some spots and not in others. This is because armor isn't something that gets slapped onto the skin of a vehicle like you would if you were armoring something that wasn't armored from the start. On purpose-built armored vehicles like a tank, IFV, or warship, the armor is the skin of the vehicle and bolted or welded onto a frame or, in the case of modern AFVs, they're welded to each other with no underlying frame.

Sure, that's how we do it, but is this necessarily how the Empire does it? They're known for cheaping-out in quality in exchange for quantity, for overwhelming numbers.

Just sayin', I really don't think that Walker's neck was armored ...
 
Sure, that's how we do it, but is this necessarily how the Empire does it? They're known for cheaping-out in quality in exchange for quantity, for overwhelming numbers.

Just sayin', I really don't think that Walker's neck was armored ...
All I know was, in the video game, the neck could be shot BEFORE it dropped to its knees but you had only fleeting moments per pass to see that exposure and some passes had none. Although it could be conjecture, I always hoped they were using guidance from George because the games were Lucas Arts collaberations.
 
It makes sense to maintain flexibility for the neck to articulate that it would likely be the least armored part if at all. In my mind. the Empire probably felt it would be protected by the head/cockpit armor and that the firepower of most units that may be used to flank flank them probably aren’t enough or that other walkers are able to support/cover threats to each other.

I miss these types of technical lore discussions lol.
 
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