The Walking Dead - Season 6 Discussion

Loved the TMNT nods tonight. When will soft minded pacifists learn that their beliefs in fact INCREASE the amount of violence in the world? Every member of the Walking Dead should have a t-shirt with a smiley face that reads "I kill awful people. You're welcome." People like Morgan and Gabriel should be shunned for allowing violence to propagate.
 
astroboy said:
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But here's what TWD did wrong.

They played death music. They didnt trick us into thinking he died. They told us he died with the music.

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Nicholas died, so the music is IMO well placed. Nicks death could be interpreted as a camouflage of some sorts for Glenn, on screen against the dead and off screen in the viewers mind as dead or dying I, too do feel a bit tricked, the odds against are Glen are overwhelming. A slim chance of survival, but I thought damn, he may make it anyway. I do not have a problem with that, though. If so, it sets up a completely new level of audience expectations, i.e. every future death will have us scratching our heads about whether a character will return or not. IMO a bit similar how the Governor made it out of that death trap.

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Mostest boringest episode everist. They took a five minute intro and dragged it out to a special 90 minute episode?

Dude and the goat, all alone in the woods, not really my scene.
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The Quagmire gif does not really help to underline that statement ...
 
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I really didn't care much for Morgan's episode. It just left a "eh" feeling. It could have been much shorter. All I could think about every time I saw Eastman was him being Drew Carey's cross dressing brother.
 
I actually found the episode quite engaging--normally the "preachiness" of the show is one of its major flaws for me, but Eastman delivered the moralizing in a palatable way. I really liked his character, even if I think his philosophy is wrong-headed and dangerous. So I enjoyed this little Morgan detour quite a bit--but now I want to get back to the great zombie herd!
 
Morgan's actions will once more cause people to die in the near future. I wonder who has gotten more people killed so far between Gab and Morgan.
 
Not every episode can be a ten. This one was hard to even stay awake through. I really hope Morgan dies soon, and I hope Rick is the one to kill him. I don't think that is going to be the case, but I think that would be sweet justice.
 
Didn't watch yet, but I take it we're back into "filler" territory? Also known as "And now the group wanders around in the woods/on the road for the next 3-4 episodes."
 
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Didn't watch yet, but I take it we're back into "filler" territory? Also known as "And now the group wanders around in the woods/on the road for the next 3-4 episodes."
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No, because that walking in the woods crap was boring and pointless, and this episode actually establishes moral sides/boundaries/POVs that I assume will have a HUGE impact on the plots and themes to come. Of course, if they don't then yes, it's filler. But for me it was a solid tale. I guess I see why some were bored.
 
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No, because that walking in the woods crap was boring and pointless, and this episode actually establishes moral sides/boundaries/POVs that I assume will have a HUGE impact on the plots and themes to come. Of course, if they don't then yes, it's filler. But for me it was a solid tale. I guess I see why some were bored.
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I'm thinking more about the various "transition" episodes that seem to show up between different points where they settle.

I discount the "on the move" aspect from where they leave the Atlanta camp and head to the CDC, since that all happened very quickly. I'm talking more about:

- After the CDC on the way to Hershel's farm where they spend several episodes on the road/in the woods.
- After Hershel's farm is overrun and they spend several episodes scattered and on the move to the prison.
- After the prison where they spend HALF A DAMN SEASON scattered and on the road to Terminus.
- After Terminus where the spend several episodes on the road/in the woods on the way to Alexandria.

And now, after Alexandria is overrun where they spend several episodes on the road/in the woods trying to get back to it or whatever.

while most of those episodes allowed for more character development, it's become such a pattern (much like "Someone not of the group challenges Rick's authority, and then dies from Terminal Stupidity Via Zombie Nomming") that it's grown really tedious, at least for me. I like the character exploration, but at this point, I think we're due for a lot more PLOT. Like, where's this headed? Why's it matter? Exploring moral lines/sides is all neato, but it's ultimately meaningless if those explorations don't lead anywhere in terms of plot.

Otherwise, the show just devolves into "People philosophize, get eaten by or kill zombies, walk around a bit, and philosophize some more."
 

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I thought the episode was only OK. It was interesting in that Rick and The Gang get put into cages, and people try to eat them. Morgan gets put in a cage and he finds a thoughtful caring psychiatrist who has years of treating PTSD and makes cheese. How friggin' lucky for Morgan.

Obviously not every episode can be a 10. This was IMHO needlessly long. It could have just been an hour. The real issue with going backwards in the narrative is hopefully to put pieces of a puzzle together that you need solved. I don't know that anybody needed to see Morgan learning some kind of half baked staffed Aikido and reading about The Art Of Peace. That said, I like the way Gimple writes, and I thought it was well written.

I don't personally subscribe to the preachy stuff in the episode, but I have no doubt that somebody looked at the grim nature of the show and said "We gotta' do an episode where people are nice to each other. Just one OK? Can we just have one episode where people are not jerks for an hour?" to which the reply was "Hey, that's different for us so lets make it a special 90 minute episode!"
 
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so Morgan hesitated killing his wife who in turn killed his son

He hesitated killing the walker forcing Eastman to step in a get bit

He failed to kill the wolves he met and they went on to find the pictures of Alexandria and got a lot of other people killed

He let the guy go who almost kills Rick

Now he still has a guy who is most likely going to kill even more people when he gets loose

Way to go Morgan
 
Carol needs to pull a "look at the flowers Morgan" if he doesn't grow up and realize his selfish spiritual convictions about non-violence are allowing violence to be perpetrated on others. I believe she can do it :) #teamcarol
 
The Morgan episode had to be made and told, but this should have been sandwiched in somewhere last season. Looking forward to getting back to the story at hand!
 
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